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TIC 2018-11-13 Item 3F - SCATBd - 9/18/18 Meeting Summary / 10/16/18 Meeting Agenda
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TIC 2018-11-13 Item 3F - SCATBd - 9/18/18 Meeting Summary / 10/16/18 Meeting Agenda
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Pilot program: Mileage reporting options include a mileage permit (log), odometer reading, <br />application with smartphone, plug in device with GPS, and a plug in device without GPS. Pilot <br />participants — 30% odometer reading; 34% plug in device with GPS and 15% chose smartphone <br />application. Only 1% chose the mileage permit. Pilot uses private sector provider to do the billing <br />and technical work (DrivesNY or eMovis). Private companies collecting driving information may not <br />be desirable to consumers. Pilot produces drivers scoring on breaking, cornering and driving <br />behavior. 2,000 people participating that reflect the state's distribution of drivers: 78% use gas <br />vehicles, 8% use hybrid, and 4% use electric vehicles. <br />Questions: Notion is that you will pay either one or another system, not both. You would get a <br />refund for or a credit. That is happening at an automated basis in the pilot. <br />Q: Age demographic? Yes. Can send that information out. <br />Q: How can you determine how much will be shared with local jurisdictions? Legislature could set <br />forth a distribution as they do now with the gas tax. Some cities are asking that the actual miles <br />traveled is used by jurisdiction vs. an allocation. <br />Q: In-between state travel, we may be able to do something as we do with ORCA — putting the <br />burden on the agencies or state vs. the consumer to distribute the allocation issue. Our state <br />constitution has the 18th amendment — couldn't use gas tax dollars for anything except roads. This is <br />an opportunity to revisit this. Parking lot for all of these issues ultimately local funding distributions <br />will be addressed. Ultimately that is a political fight. <br />Q: Will this system include congestion pricing? And is this socially just / equitably just? On the <br />pricing pilot is not looking at pricing mechanism. Depends on if legislature wants to enable equitable <br />pricing — they could. RUC is not a congestion pricing tool — not a tolling tool but legislature could <br />make that work on certain corridors but only would work if everyone is using a GPS enabled system <br />so we can capture where you are driving. (PSRC): Transportation Futures work did value equity <br />pricing was a high priority for those that participants. We heard that loud and clear. <br />Q: Privacy issues. Be careful of the technology side — insurance company gets info on driving <br />behavior and then increases rates. We recognize that there are a lot of privacy issues associated <br />with data. There are safeguards on other large data sources like ORCA data for example. <br />Q: Thank you for presentation. Change is hard for the public, certain members. Public perception <br />issue of being tracked. Is anyone collecting data on being tracked? Smoothness of this <br />implementation will be based on the public's willingness to be tracked. Looming, legal fight as the <br />larger discussion is ongoing about government's role as to how much data should be collected / <br />protections. <br />Q: WA second largest gas tax in the nation. Last year's survey showed that 58% surved didn't want <br />it. And 59% said govn't didn't do a good job with transportation. 2,000 RUC participants will take <br />three surveys as part of the process. At the end we will go out with another statewide survey. The <br />initial survey was used as a baseline. <br />Q: Goal of finding a new way to collect revenue for roads seems to be in conflict with another larger <br />goal to get people to drive less. How would this be sustainable in the long run if people get out of <br />their cars, and stop driving? No huge shifts in rural areas but shifts in urban areas with autonomous <br />vehicles and other transit shifts. Future transportation paradigms would have to involve to a fleet <br />taxation system vs. an individual system. <br />40 <br />
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