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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-12-05 Special Minutes - Salary Increase Discussion VerbatimDISCUSSION ON SALARY INCREASES December 5, 1981 Council Work Meeting Saturday Doubletree Inn V E R B A T I M Van Dusen: Salary increases. Doerschel: Van Dusen: The judge negotiates. Doerschel: Phelps: Doerschel: Bohrer: Does the Council want me to the salary people, the front page, put in 9.36 for all people who are eligible to receive -that includes like the judge and couple of people that are dealt with independently.... Do you want us; do you want me to go ahead and put the 9.36 in to show what the salary is? Of course, that means we have to cut; we don't have the money in. That is about $8,000, by the way. We don't add the money in the budget, it simply becomes- makes that much harder for us.... Add $8,000 under 151 there. That's not fair because, if you're using a percentage -if this figure was derived as a percentage of the Current Fund from the 1981 budget, the 1981 budget does not include cost of living in- creases for 1981; they were added after the budget was passed. *Mixed Conversation Doerschel: The 3.1 million includes miscellaneous salaries. Phelps: OK, then there is no problem. Van Dusen: OK. Doerschel: Nope, is the Council saying that you're going to give.... This is a big decision; don't just go OK. Are you going to allow the non contract employees to have the same salary in- crease as the Union. That is a big decision. It is not in the budget right now -on the line item. Harris: Is it in the Non Departmental. Doerschel: It is only in there at eight percent though, not 9.36. Harris: So, in other words, we have to add more to that. Doerschel: Do you understand what I'm talking about here? What I am saying -we're talking about my salary, Department Heads and everybody elses. Am I going to get an 8% raise or a 9.36% raise? Mayor Todd: ....impact of the extra 1.36. $8,000 is the total cost including FICA, PERS and.... There is $518,000 in non -union labor and the difference between 8% and 9.36% is $8,000. Mayor Todd: How many employees are involved in that? Doerschel: 20 some employees involved in that. Bohrer: Before we said we're going to budget 8 and I think we ought to leave it there. We are not going to resolve the issue today. It is going to come up separately. Doerschel: It makes a difference in how I present this budget. It makes a difference in terms of what you put in the budget in that particular point. All I am saying is put in 8% like we decided earlier. Mayor Todd: It makes a difference in the cuts, too, that we have to make to get it down to 74 DISCUSSION ON SALARY INCREASES V E R B A T I M Page 2 Doerschel: That's right. That's why I want to know now. That's why I'm... Bohrer: Well, we can make it 9.36 and it makes your problem worse. Harris: I think that's only fair, to make it 9.36 and then let them cut the extra out. Bohrer: It's going to make the problem worse on the $151,000. Harris: It's alright. It's OK. Doerschel: Maybe the Mayor will come back and say we're not going to do it, but what's the Council's feeling? Is it up to us? That is all I want to know. Phelps: It has always been my feeling that the cost of living increases should be somewhat equal because we have had the argument 155,000 times that a union man's cost of a can of beans is going to cost just exactly the same as a non -union man's cost of a can of beans so that.... Doerschel: I'll just fire two extra people so I get my salary. Saul: But on the other hand, a guy that's making $50,000 gets 10 it is a hell of a lot more than the guy that makes $10,000. Phelps: But that is supposed to be handled through the salary plan. *Miscellaneous Conversation Bohrer: I don't think all the unions are going to get the same raise. Doerschel: They have already got 9.36. The Police and Fire are going to get 11 even. They are already in here. I have already cranked them in here. Bohrer: Why shouldn't we put 11.7 or whatever it is? Doerschel: It has already happened. I mean it's already happened, it's already cranked in. Maxine Anderson: OK, you are putting the 9.36 in non departmental miscellaneous salaries. Is that what you're saying? Is that right? Several voices: Yes /Yup. Maxine Anderson: OK. Doerschel: No, it is going right on the line item. Maxine Anderson: Oh, you're not going to put it in miscellaneous salaries; you're going to go through and compute all the.... Doerschel: No, total dollars will be added to the budget. Nothing is being added to the budget; all I'm doing is legitimize that the people will get a 9.3% increase. Harris: Then that will increase that.... Doerschel: The amount we have to cut. Maxine Anderson: Where are you showing the 9.36, Alan? Doerschel: It is going to be reflected in the monthly salaries of all the people that are non union. Maxine Anderson: Oh, are you going through and recompute the salaries? DISCUSSION ON SALARY INCREASES V E R B A T I M Page 3 Doerschel: Exactly. Maxine Anderson: OK. Doerschel: Without adding any money to the budget. Van Dusen: I think No. 13 speaks for itself.