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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1974-02-13 Special Minutes - Proposed City Hall Sites Public HearingFebruary 13, 1974 TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL 7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING M I N U T E S SUBJECT DISCUSSION: PROPOSED CITY HALL SITES CALL TO ORDER Mayor Todd called the Public Hearing of the City Council to order. 7:47 P.M. ROLL CALL OF COUNCIL MEMBERS MEETING DISCUSSION AUDIENCE COMMENTS Mrs. Bernhard Mr. Bernhard Mr. Regal Mr. Bowen Mr. Harris Mrs. Altmeyer GARDNER, TRAYNOR, STERLING, DAVIS, HARRIS, SAUL. 6 0. Tukwila Elementary School Mayor Todd explained the purpose of the Public Hearing and intro- duced Gary Crutchfield, Planning Department. Gary Crutchfield gave a presentation of the site selections and criteria used with slides and oral report. He stated the history of the site selections would cover a two -year chronological report of the Planning Commiission. He stated the Planning Commission con- sidered the City Hall site would include police station as well when they reviewed the proposed sites. Gary Crutchfield then re- viewed the ten sites originally selected by the Planning Commission. He explained that land use factors were the first consideration in reviewing the sites, economics were secondary. Sites #1, #4 and #5 were eliminated as they did not meet specific requirements. It was decided a campus -like setting was desirable over a high -rise building and that six or seven acres minimum would be a better in- vestment for many years to come; the building can always be improved the land cannot. A formal vote was taken by the Planning Com- mission; Sites #10 and #6 held the majority respectively thereby eliminating Sites #2, #3, #7 and #8. Site #6 is small and would have to be augmented with four additional acres extending easterly. On December 20, 1973 the Planning Commission held a Public Hearing and it was decided Site #10, the Van Worden property, be obtained for the City Hall site. And that Site #6 be designated with addi- tional land as a second choice. Site #9, City Light property, was designated as third choice if the additional land could not be acquired for Site #6. Mrs. Anna Bernhard asked how much it would cost to buy the Van Worden property. Gary Crutchfield reviewed the costs of all sites and stated the costs were based on assumptions on land use maps, zoning maps and, in some cases, fair market value as the owner stated. Mr. Jim Bernhard asked if $117,477 was the total cost of the purchase price [for Site #10]. Gary Crutchfield answered no, that price represented the one and one -half acres which would be used for the City Hall site; the six additional acres to be utiliz- ed in other ways would be considerably more. Mr. Regal asked if there are plans on how to finance the purchase. Councilman Traynor answered the City has not entered the phase of financing yet. Mr. Regal asked if any other sites other than #6 are selected, then are there plans to sell Site #6. Councilman Traynor stated the Council has not yet decided which site is right; after that deci- sion is made, then we will decide what to do with 154th. Mr. Regal stated it is important that definite plans are made by the Council. Mr. Leroy Bowen stated developers are offering to sell Lot #16 behind Site #6. "I would like to mention that in your decision that you look at the additional City Hall sites in the King County area and get an idea of the price and use your best judgment to find the most convenient site to the majority of the people." He stated Lot #16 as additional land to Site #6 should be considered. Mr. Ken Harris stated the choice of sites was good, but questionned.. the expense and amount of property in Site #10. A campus -like building is more attractive, but more expensive to maintain and heat. This would be no better in the future as far as electricity is concerned. He urged the Council to consider the size of the building along with the size of the site. We sould consider the amount of ground really required for a compact complex. Mrs. Anne Altmeyer spoke for the Van Worden site as a citizen and as a mem- ber of the Park Board. The river site gives the City control over the development. It is a park -like setting and the additional land could be used for a park or civic center area. Miss Helen Nelson stated she agreed with the Van Worden site selection, but are there Tukwila City Council Public Hearing February 13, 1974 Page 2 AUDIENCE COMMENTS Cont. Miss Nelson Mr. Peeper Ms. Larson Mr. Lamb Mr. Botch Miss Nelson Mr. Ives Ms. Larson Mr. Bowen Mrs. Harris Mrs. Bernhard Mrs. Altmeyer Mrs. Holloway (03 many buildings to be removed and what is the status of flood con- trol? She stated the property is perfectly safe; she lives across from this site and the land is substantially rocked and is large enough to accomodate any thing the City would want. But there will be a surplus of property, which could be added to the proposed park to the south. The site above Southcenter Blvd. is ideal and we have a preview of what can be done on the land in the Golden Arrow Dairy site. Site #6 is centrally located and gives the area dignity overlooking the tax base of the City. It is convenien to the citizens. There is property available to add to it to the east. Mr. Al Peeper stated the City has a Planning Commission which spent considerable time studying these sites. He gave an example of the King County Domed Stadium and the grief that was caused when a committee's recommendations were not followed or accepted. Ms. Pat Larson asked for an estimate of the cost to bring the land to flood control standards. Gary Crutchfield stated $210,000 would be required to fill and re -work the dike. Mr. Herb Lamb, a member of the Planning Commission, asked how many people in this room remember the bustling communities of Thorndyke and Foster and others like them. Forty or fifty years from now, will we be saying we remember the communities of Tukwila, Kent and Renton? One of these days there will be one valley city. The city hall then might well be located on the Van Worden site along the Green River. Mr. Phil Botch recommended the Planning Commission's decision be accepted; we ought to think big in that Tukwila is growing and needs something down in the valley where we can do any of our other business and ride the bus. The Van Worden property would be the best place to have a City Hall. Miss Helen Nelson stated Site #6 would be more centrally located when consid- ering the industrial property on the north end of town. The Tuk- wila hill is pretty and centralized when considering the north end as well. Mr. Ives stated a building of this type in the valley across from Southcenter is degrading to the City. Most of the people in the area know where Southcenter is but have never heard of Tukwila. If we build in that area, we will be known as Southcenter City Hall. Gary Crutchfield stated the Planning Commission views Tukwila as a regional city with great social and economic impact not confined by municipal boundaries. Ms. Pat Larson asked if there is less improvements for the property on Southcenter Blvd. than on the Van Worden property regarding streets. Gary Crutchfield stated the improvements would be less on Van Worden considering the amount of traffic. Southcenter Blvd. is on a 6- year street improvement program and will be improved this or next year and will be four or five lanes; as a result, some land will be taken away from the hillside. The hillside slope is about 25 and takes up quite a bit of the available area for building. We would have to take out three acres of dirt to make a one and one half acre lot. Mr. Leroy Bowen stated that by using Lot #16, no excavating would be necessary as the building can be put on top. He presented layout plans to the Council. Mrs. Mae Harris asked if there was any foreseeable change we might lose the Van Worden property on the Master Shoreline Program. Gary Crutchfield stated there could be, but the City would have to follow its own rules along the river for construction and development. We now have a 50 -foot setback, which is to the best advantage anyway. It allows us to utilize the trails, etc. Mrs. Anna Bernhard asked if the Planning Commission had ever considered buying the golf course; it is accessible to the citizens and some of the property coul be used for a community center and City Hall. Gary Crutchfiel stated the Planning Commission did not include this site be- cause the State Interagency Committee for Recreation would have appropriations to fund the purchase of that land to buy just as a golf course. We would kill the grant if other uses were added. Without a grant, the citizens would have to bear the cost of $2,500,000 for the golf course. Mrs. Altmeyer stated we need to define what the City Hall should be would it include a cultural or civic center, police department, city shops, etc. The Van Worden property would have enought room for parking and any other purpose we might even be able to put a library there. To tie in with the parks, we could have a small boat access as already proposed in the Park Plan. Mrs. Rena Holloway stated she could not see a 50 or 100 year projection. In a few years, this area will be Seattle/ Tukwila City Council Public Hearing February 13, 1974 Page 3 AUDIENCE COMMENTS Cont. Mrs. Holloway Mr. Regal Miss Nelson Mr. Regal Mr. Tunnel Mr. Ives Mr. Regal Mr. Harris Mr. Bowen Mr. Lutes 01 King County. "I feel to put forth all this expense with no idea of how to fund it is bad planning." Mayor Todd stated the project could be funded at a cost of .85 mills per $1,000,000 over 20 years at current interest rates. Mrs. Holloway asked if this would be levied against each property owner in Tukwila. Mayor Todd stated the funding could be on a G. 0. Bond issue. Mrs. Holloway stated the people who would have to pay for this might not be around. She would like to see a smaller unit at a more economical price range with room for future expansion. We should plan to build little by little as the need arises in the future. She stated she is still thinking over which site is more desirable. Gary Crutchfield stated a space needs study indicated 30,000 sq. feet minimum would be required for a City Hall. The Van Worden property was recommend- ed because the property would insure the City's control over devel- opment next to the City Hall. The City could always sell part of the Van Worden property to recover some of the costs. Mr. Regal stated he felt the Van Worden property was the best site, but we need not buy all that parcel when we only need six acres for a City Hall. The City does not need to go into the real estate business. Gary Crutchfield stated we would then lose control over what goes in next door. The land is zoned for light industry and commercial manufacturing at the present time. Mr. Regal asked for the price of the Van Worden property. Gary Crutchfield stated $1.17 per sq. foot and the Southcenter Blvd. property was $1.58 per sq. foot and the adjacent property may be more. It was quoted as $1.58 per sq. foot in 1971 as RMH zoning. Now it is zoned C -1, and would probably command a higher price. Councilman Traynor noted Mr. Bowen was asking $1.26 per sq. foot for Lot #16 to the north of Site #6. Mr. Regal stated he was referring to the easterly lot which he feels is more favorable, the north lot being too steep. Miss Nelson asked what impact the City of Seattle water line on the Van Worden property would have on building. Mayor Todd answered none, except that we could not build over it. Steve Hall, Public Works Director, stated it is not possible to put a permanent struc- ture over the right -of -way of the water line. It can be used as a parking area or recreation area which the City of Seattle would have to maintain. Mr. Regal asked how close to the right -of -way could the City build. Gary Crutchfield answered 50 feet. He added a one story building would not require the pilings or footings for construction. Mr. Regal asked how many feet of fill would be re- quired there. Mr. Tunnel stated flood control required an elevation of 26 feet at the building site itself. The lowest elevation to the north is 14 feet and to the south it is 18 feet. Mr. Ives asked what difference is there between digging out the hillside on South center Blvd. as opposed to filling the low land at Van Worden. The building would have a solid rock base on the hillside site. Gary Crutchfield stated a consultant included $4,000 for excavation of Site #6. Steve Hall stated the construction cost per sq. foot varies due to different site preparations beyond filling. Mr. Regal asked for these costs on the Van Worden property. Gary Crutch field stated $42.88 per sq. foot of building area based on 30,000 sq. feet for the Van Worden property and $42.44 for the Southcenter Blvd. property and these costs include everything. Mr. Ken Harris asked if more public hearings would be held to consider the sites and building design. Mayor Todd stated all the details will be decided before the bond issue is submitted. Gary Crutchfield stated these costs are not high in comparison with current building costs. The King County Housing Authority building was approximately $60 per sq. foot. Steve Hall stated any office building costs will be higher than home construction costs because fire codes and safety requirements are higher. Mr. Leroy Bowen asked if any study had considered Lot #16 as an addition to Site #6. Gary Crutchfield stated no, the Planning Commission recommended the land to the east to avoid intruding upon established land use patterns which now is residential for that area. Mr. Bowen stated the Van Worden site intrudes on the warehouse and commercial use in that area. Gary Crutchfield stated the impact would not be as great as it would be on Site #6. Mr. Bowen stated there is traffic congestion in South center now and suggested finding a site outside the industrial area. The cost of filling Site #10 would be equal to any land acquisition for Site #6. Mr. Burton Lutes stated the Van Worden site is ideal. Tukwila City Council Public Hearing February 13, 1974 Page 4 AUDIENCE COMMENTS Cont. Mr. Lutes Mrs. Robinson Mr. Regal Mr. Ives Mr. Bernhard Mr. Edwards Mrs. Lutes Mr. Johanson Mrs. Altmeyer Mr. Sowinsky Mr. Aliment Mr. Regal Mr. Lamb Mr. Ives Mrs. Lutes Ms. Larson It is large enough to use for many things. The filling could be free; many contractors are begging for places to get rid of dirt from their excavations. We have had many offers to dump dirt on our property. Mayor Todd stated the City was in a position to find a place to put the dirt that came out of the T.O.P.I.C.S. project on Southcenter Blvd. and 154th. Mrs. Sis Robinson stated the access on Southcenter Blvd. is very bad; we could do more with the Van Worden property. Mr. Regal stated the access over the bridge is dangerous. We would need to build an overpass on Southcente Blvd. to turn left onto the street at the Van Worden property. Gary Crutchfield stated Southcenter Blvd. is planned for improve- ments which include a turning lane over the bridge. Mr. Ives stated the City owns the property next to Van Worden site and the elevation is low. To buy the Van Worden site and make it big enough for a park is not practical. In the summer time, kids will be in the way. If Southcenter Blvd. site were chosen, the excess excavation could be used for fill in the park site. And I have not heard of any contractor yet giving away dirt. Mr. Jim Bernhard stated he wholeheartedly supports the Planning Commission's recommendation of the Van Worden property. It is big enough for us to think big now and far into the future. The aesthetics are correct. The Southcenter Blvd. is just a shoe horn solution to the problem the site is just too small. The Van Worden property gives the imp ression we are thinking ahead. Mr. Willy Edwards stated since the fire department and city shops are in the area already, the Van Worden property would tie in together the City services. The police department answers most of its calls in the Southcenter and industri- al areas now, too. We need the building now, so decide what you are going to do and do it. Mrs. Lutes stated her support for the Van Worden property and repeated that they have received many, many calls from contractors wanting to get rid of excess fill dirt. Mr. Reid Johanson asked to see the map noting the location of VIPS and the ARCO station on 154th. He stated he is concerned about the type of development that would go in if Site #6 were not chosen for a City Hall. He does not want to see further commercial development in that area. Gary Crutchfield stated the property may well go commercial, but that land use patterns in that area are established residential now. Mrs. Anne Altmeyer pointed out that the City Council and the Planning Commission would decide at the time what kind of development would go in there at other public hearings. Mr. Sowinsky inquired about Lot #15 to the east of Site #6. Gary Crutchfield stated the Planning Commission had recommended that this be acquired if Site #6 were selected as a City Hall site. Mr. Sowinsky felt the cost might be lower if Site #6 and the easter- ly lot were chosen. Gary Crutchfield stated the costs of Sites #6 and #10 are about the same. Mr. Aliment stated the Van Worden property is similar to the situation of the golf course. There is very little open space left in the Seattle and King County area. The Planning Commission was wise to think about a large parcel. If we wait too long to decide on this, the land may be gone forever. Mr. Regal asked what will be done about the bridge on Southcenter Blvd. Gary Crutchfield stated more lanes will be added to South center Blvd. and that signals will be installed to aid traffic in that area. Mr. Herb Lamb stated the use of land will always be unpredictable and it is entirely up to the City officials to make it what they will in the future, but it should be in the public's best interests. He stated the surrounding area has a low regard for Tukwila they call it "hicksville" and he would like to overkill that image. A City Hall on the layout of Van Worden site is a step in that direction. Mr. Ives stated he envisions the City Hall on the hillside, away from the hustle and bustle of the commercial area. The hillside is a more pleasant setting and it is a location that will serve the people in the community. Mrs. Lutes stated the only people who will be able to see the City Hall on that hillside will be driving by it on Hwy. #405. The Van Wor- don site is larger and more quiet, it is of the magnitude of what we will need. We must think of future generations and the business people deserve some consideration, too. They probably use the City Hall ten times more than any one of us sitting in this room tonight, and they foot most of the bill. Ms. Pat Larson stated most of the campus -like settings have been used in the residential areas Tukwila City Council Public Hearing February 13, 1974 Page 5 AUDIENCE COMMENTS Cont. Ms. Larson Mrs. Holloway Mrs. Altmeyer Ms. Greer Mr. Edwards Mr. Regal Mr. Peeper Chief Crawley Miss Nelson Mr. Tunnel Mr. Bowen 4 06 because they blend in better with the surroundings. Gary Crutch- field stated the campus setting for Van Worden property was not recommended because it blends in, but because it would be the most appealing and visually pleasing construction. It would contrast and add its own special identify to the surrounding area. Mrs. Holloway stated she felt the main objective of the businessmen is to get both the industrial and residential areas in Seattle. Mayor Todd stated this is a very fatalistic attitude and does not agree. Mrs. Altmeyer stated she would fight tooth and nail before giving up to Seattle. She stated the City cannot plan a little bit at a time. She would like to think we will still be here 50 or 100 years from now as the City of Tukwila. Ms. Rickey Greer stated she works for the City and no one realizes at Southcenter that they are in Tuk- wila and we get phone calls frequently from people who don't know how to find Tukwila. If the City Hall complex were in the South center area, everyone would realize where we and they are Tukwila Mr. Edwards stated the City needs a City Hall now. The trailer looks bad, there is no space to work and the building is a fire hazard. We should decide on the property and get it now. The new fire station and city shops are down there now; the City Hall on the hill site would be lost. Mr. Regal stated something should be done because the image of Tukwila is getting greater known. The industrial area doesn't realize who we are. What we need is a B 0 tax to establish in their minds that Tukwila does exist. Mr. Peeper stated maintenance in the winter and a restricted parking area on the hillside are factors to consider with Site #6. Fire Chief Hubert Crawley suggested publishing an ad in the newspaper, a clip -out coupon, naming the proposed sites so that each citizen can be polled to his opinion and have a chance to view each site before deciding. Mayor Todd stated this presentation gives an excellent idea of the considerations that were given by the Planning Commission. Miss Nelson asked what the time schedule is on making this decision. Councilman Traynor stated we have been stalling on this for two years, this is the first major step we have taken. Miss Nelson stated it is not fair to the people who own the property being considered to keep them on the hook waiting for a decision. They will be turning down offers because this is still binding. We should resolve this quickly. Councilman Traynor stated if the fu- ture is stalled as the past has been, these owners would be foolish to turn down deals. Mayor Todd stated to his knowledge, no one in the City has asked the property owners not to sell until a decision is made by the City. Mr. Tunnel stated regarding the Van Worden property that no one told him he could not or should not sell, but only that the site was being considered. He stated it is difficult to show the property to anyone interested because Christianson Road is such a poor access. It is increasingly difficult to offer the property for sale when the City shows such a promising interest. Mayor Todd stated we must either take an option on it or start con- demnation proceedings. Councilman Traynor was asked to chair the meeting; Mayor Todd excused himself to the audience to make com- ments. Councilman Traynor pointed out that although the Planning Commission recolimiended the Van Worden property, a city -hired con- sultant examined the same sites and picked the hillside site. This is interesting that two very different sites were picked for the City Hall. Gary Crutchfield stated ideas and priorities had changed in the time between the two studies. Mayor Todd stated that the Comprehensive Park Plan was adopted without a public hear- ing which makes it an illegal plan. The present fire station site was also considered in that plan. The recommendation was at Andover Park West and Southcenter Blvd. so already this study has been violated, and we did not follow the consultant's recom- mendations. The appraisal of the 154th Street site was made by Shorett Riely for Black and Caldwell. "Mr. Bowen, do you recall who represented Black Caldwell on this property Mr. Bowen replied it was Wes Hodge. Mayor Todd added that Mr. Hodge was also City Attorney at that time. Mayor Todd then asked Mrs. Mae Harris, City Treasurer, what was the amount of the LID assessment which was still owing when the property was sold. Mrs. Harris stated she thought it was $2,600 but could not be sure. Mayor Todd read a portion of the letter to Mayor Minkler from Mr. Riley, MIA: "By Tukwila City Council Public Hearing February 13, 1974 Page 6 AUDIENCE COMMENTS Cont. Mr. Lamb Mr. Sowinsky Mr. Aliment Mr. Bernhard Miss Nelson Chief Crawley Mr. Lutes Mr. Aliment Mr. Harris 6o7 reason of our investigation and analysis, we have formed the opinion that the Fair Market Value of this property as of the date set forth above [January 28, 1971] in fee simple title and unencumbered by leases or liens and subject to the limiting conditions contained herein is: $162,000." Mayor Todd then stated the topography of Site #6 from the report: "The site slopes from street grade at the south boundary to 40' to 50' above grade at the north boundary, with an estimated 20 25 slope." And "The soil appears to be a mixture of sand and small rock. The owners indicated that a preliminary soil survey revealed that the site was stable and suitable for building purposes." It was found that no profess- ional soils test was made at the 154th site. The report further stated, as Mayor Todd read, "Because of accessibility to retail and employment centers, and after consideration of the existing supply of essential types of real estate in the general area, of land prices and apparent trends of development, it is concluded that the approximate Highest and Best Use of the subject site would be development with an apartment or motel complex, possibly with some attendent type of development on the immediate highway frontage." Mayor Todd concurred with this and added it would also be an excel- lent place for a retirement home for the elderly citizens in Tukwila.' Councilman Sterling stated the golf course was considered by the City Council for possible purchase for the City to run as a golf course. Although this is away from the purpose of the meeting, how does the public feel about this? It would mean the citizens would have to reach into their pockets to buy G. 0. bonds to pay for it. Gary Crutchfield stated the cost would be 2.6 million dollars according to an industrial appraisal. Mr. Sowinsky asked what advantage is there to buying the golf course. Gary Crutch- field stated it would be open space and recreation. Councilman Saul asked what money is available for the purchase. Gary Crutch- field stated there is little chance of any funding. The City could buy it with G. O. bonds, maintain and operate it and create a profitable business fo'r the City over a period of years. Coun- cilman Traynor stated the Council had considered the golf course for a City Hall site at one time. Councilman Sterling stated this would give the public a chance to think this over and we can better make a decision on the golf course later. Mr. Aliment mentioned that the parks do not bring in a dime's worth of revenue and he doesn't think the City will be able to buy and main- tain the golf course to get a return on the bonds even at 6% inter- est. If the City waits too long down the road, the golf course won't be there for you to buy. We could have sold it two months ago. Why worry about the cost? Either you get the green grass or you could care less. Mr. Jim Bernhard stated the cost of the golf course is reasonable and we may never have this opportunity again. One million dollars in bonds is .85 mills, so two and a half million dollars is about 2.25 mills what will this do to our taxes. Mayor Todd stated the millage is at 7.64 now, and that he is disap- pointed the golf course was not considered more seriously as a City Hall site. Mr. Herb Lamb stated 20 cents per thousand devalu- ated would mean the golf course is almost a gift and Southcenter and Andover Park would pay the greater share. Miss Nelson stated Jefferson Park is a going concern for the City of Seattle. The river front property would involve Shoreline Management problems, though. Mayor Todd stated anything would have to be built back 50 feet from the river. Fire Chief Crawley stated anything that pleases the people will be paid for by the people. Mayor Todd pointed out the public must approve by vote buying the G. 0. bonds first before any funding is provided. Mr. Lutes stated he would be more in favor of the golf course as a City Hall site than the Van Worden property. We would have the extra space and this could be partially self supporting. It is away from the congested area at Southcenter and is closer to the northern part of town. Councilman Sterling stated the majority of the Council would like to save it as a golf course and we did not consider adding any other complex to it. Gary Crutchfield stated a City Hall or other such building would detract from the golf course. Mr. Aliment agreed and added that traffic congestion with just a golf course there in the spring, summer and fall months is very great. Mr. Ken Harris reconw ended the Council adopt the Planning Commiss- ion's recommendation of the Van Worden property. It is the best place for the City Hall and a civic center of any other facility Tukwila City Council Public Hearing February 13, 1974 Page 7 AUDIENCE CONTENTS Cont. Mr. Moore Mrs. Bernhard Mrs. Altmeyer Mr. Tunnel Miss Nelson Mrs. Harris ADJOURNMENT 10:18 P.M. 608 we might want to have. Mr. Bill Moore stated he is in favor of accepting the Van Worden site as it offers the best opportunity for the future. He stated he is in favor of saving the golf course for the future, but is not convinced the City should buy it. There could be another way to save it and steps to save it should be taken soon because we need it now and more for the future. Council- man Gardner stated Mr. Mettler reported the reason the golf course was not considered as a City Hall site was that we were looking at a 75% grant to purchase the golf course; the grant would not be acceptable with a City Hall site or civic center. Mr. Bill Moore asked if the golf course were to be considered only as a golf course, what percentage of a grant could we get? Gary Crutchfield stated the City would be paying $650,000 of the $2.6 million. Mrs. Anna Bernhard asked how then could the City pass this up. From her home, the golf course provides a break from the junkyard at Skyway. Mrs. Anne Altmeyer stated the Planning Department has done a great job in the presentation tonight. Councilman Gardner asked what the ultimate elevation of the dike is. Mr. Tunnel stated 26 feet. Gary Crutchfield stated flood control required 28 feet at the site of the building. Mr. Tunnel stated the elevation at the south end of of the site is 27.1 feet and 26.4 feet at the north end, according to flood control. Miss Nelson asked if the entire eleven acres needed to be filled. Mayor Todd stated no, the building site would be filled to 28 feet and any parking or recreational areas will not need to be filled at all because of the dike along the river. Mrs. Mae Harris asked where the front of the building would face if built on the Van Worden site. Gary Crutchfield stated the best place for the building to face would be on the river front and the landscaping would face the back of the industrial area. Mayor Todd asked what the audience now thinks about a City Hall site after hearing the presentation made at the meeting tonight. A show of hands resulted in 22 citizens for the Van Worden property site, 2 citizens for the site on 154th and Southcenter Blvd. and no votes for the City Light site as third choice. The total number of citizens present at this time was 30. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY COUNCIL ADJOURN. CARRIED. ATTEST: Frank Todd, Mayor Shirlee A. Kinney, y Clerk