HomeMy WebLinkAbout1974-07-29 Special MinutesJuly 29, 1974 TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
8:00 P.M. SPECIAL MEETING
SUBJECT
FLAG SALUTE AND
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL OF
COUNCIL MEMBERS
DISCUSSION
LID #26
M I N U T E S
X 7 9
Tukwila City Hall
Council Chambers
Mayor Todd introduced Renton City Councilman Dick
Stredicke, who led the Pledge of Allegiance, and called
the meeting to order.
GARDNER, STERLING, TRAYNOR, DAVIS, HARRIS, SAUL,
JOHANSON
City Clerk Shirlee Kinney read the legal public notice
of the meeting.
Steve Hall, Public Works Director, presented a brief
background on LID #26 which is former LID #23. LID #23
had been voted down late last year and several requests
recently have been received to re -form the LID. The
City of Tukwila set up petitions for the LID which were
circulated and received by the City June 13, 1974. The
petitions were tallied and received 69.4% favorable
votes which were sufficient according to R.C.W.
35.43.120 and on June 17, 1974, Ord. #868 was approved
to form LID #26. Steve Hall then reviewed the area of
LID #26 on the map.
Mr. Glen Justice, 16452 51st Ave. So., stated his pro-
perty was on 164th, would it be involved? Steve Hall
replied yes, in ULID #6.
Mr. Ernest Onorati, 5102 So. 163rd, asked if any area is
excluded out of this. Steve Hall replied there is a
portion excluded North of 160th extended from 51st down
to 53rd which is already served by a major interceptor.
Mr. Onorati asked about the portion to the East. Steve
Hall stated it is included in the LID down to I -5 right
of -way.
Mr. Justice stated he was told he would be charged back
200 feet on his property. Why? Steve Hall explained
the method of computing assessments by the square foot
and by the zone and termini methods. Mr. Justice stated
he is beyond the reach of the sewer system due to the
grade, would he have to pay anyway? Steve Hall replied
he would pay only the square foot charge.
Mrs. Ethelmae Cole, 16030 Slst Ave. So., stated her pro-
perty is at 16030 and 16036 and there is no way it can
be served by hooking into 51st. If the sewer goes in,
she will have to go to 160th. Why is she being charged
for the frontage when she cannot hook it. She stated
she is also still mad about the rockery Val Vue knocked
out and has not been replaced. Steve Hall agreed there
is access on 160th and suggested she call him the next
day and he would contact Val Vue about the rockery.
Mr. George Leeds, 5207 So. 164th, asked how soon would
the work begin. Steve Hall stated it will be winter
construction because construction drawings have yet to
be received, bids must be called for and approved, etc.
Mr. Onorati asked why the difference between Tukwila and
King County requirements to hook up and the difference
in charges. Steve Hall stated it depends upon the
individual ordinances in effect. Within the cost of an
LID in Tukwila, there is a stub fee. There is a regular
connection charge of $75 plus $20 inspection fee for
residences. Mayor Todd stated revenue bonding obliga-
tions also make a difference. Mr. Onorati asked about
the time limit to hook into the LID. With King County,
you may never have to hook in, but there is a 90 day
limit in Tukwila. If the McMicken group does not hook
in, the system is useless. Steve Hall stated you must
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hook up within 30 days after the final assessment roll
is completed. If you do not hook up, you will be charg-
ed the connection fees anyway. Special dispensations
are provided in the case of bad weather unless a health
condition is involved. Mr. Onorati asked what the
health conditions are with this. Steve Hall replied
the King County Health Department would have that infor-
mation. Mr. Onorati stated he called and was told they
did not know of anything. He stated his point is if the
McMicken people do not hook in, it will affect the sew-
age problem, although he does not think there is one.
We will have accomplished nothing with the LID.
Mrs. Pack, 5149 So. 164th, stated there is sewage leak-
ing into the street and down the street and in the back
of her property where her dog had dug a hole. It smells
really bad.
Mr. Dick Kirsop, 16816 53rd Ave. So., stated there is
drainage from the area by his house which smells pretty
rank most of the year and he can testify there is a
health problem involved.
Mr. Justice stated he believed the problem would be
eliminated if McMicken will hook in.
Mr. Kirsop stated once the sewers are in, the Health
Department will be able to apply more pressure.
Mr. Justice stated he did not know of any pressure to
be brought about.
Mr. Kirsop stated the complaints to the Health Department
will have some real meat when the sewers are available.
They would be able to force people to hook in or else
force them out of their houses.
Mr. Justice stated the area should be condemned and
forced to hook up 100
Mr. Al Pieper, 17083 53rd Ave. So., stated he has dis-
cussed the health problem with the Health Department.
He was told you do not have to hook up, but if there is
a sewer out there and if there is a problem, they will
red tag your house and if you still refuse, you will go
to jail.
Mrs. Pack stated there are some who have hooked on to
the storm drain outside of the City limits.
Mr. Justice asked what assurance is there that we will
not have to go all through this again in 5 or 10 years.
Mayor Todd stated we would have to rely on the construc-
tion engineer's ability to provide for the growth in
the area and other factors. Mr. Justice stated he paid
$1,000 recently for a new septic tank as required by the
Health Department. They do have authority.
Mrs. Dharlene West asked about the schedule for paying
assessments. Can you make time payments? Val Vue laid
the sewer in the street and we were notified to pay
within 30 days without interest. That sewer is not
usable now. Why should we pay now before it is accept-
able for us to use to save the interest? Steve Hall
stated the City of Tukwila will complete and accept the
facility first, then a final tally of the costs on the
final assessment roll, have a public hearing, and then
we will request our financial advisors to set up a bond-
ing program. You can pay cash in 30 days or on the ten
year period annually. Interest is about 7% or 8% now.
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City Treasurer Mae Harris stated after the final assess-
ment roll, you can pay the total without interest in
30 days or pay any portion of it; one year later, you
will get a bill, pay 10% and make payments over the next
10 or 12 years.
Mrs. Cole asked if she would be assessed across Slst.
Steve Hall replied she would be assessed on the frontage
of her property. The charge will be either on 51st or
on the back or the average of both. He stated he would
check with Yoshida to avoid duplication of charges.
Mayor Todd stated there is still time to register pro-
tests after the preliminary assessment roll.
Mrs. Audrey Kirsop asked if the line would go through
on 53rd or along the right -of -way. Steve Hall stated
it would run along the back part of the property at the
freeway fence. The area will be served by gravity.
The engineers are required to take photos of the area
before work is begun and to restore it to its original
condition.
Mr. Leeds stated you are using the health problems to
accelerate the procedure. Mayor Todd stated the mains
and stubs will be available at the same time and the
minute they are accepted, you can hook up.
Councilman Sterling asked Mrs. Cole if she had paid an
assessment on a previous LID. Mrs. Cole stated she had
not, but Val Vue had installed a stub which she cannot
use and knocked down the rockery.
Mr. Ed Bauch, 16603 53rd Ave. So., stated when LID #23
was formed, the City gave us a price in writing. This
time we have been told the cost will be about 10% higher
and we have not received any written notices of the
costs. Steve Hall stated if the bids come in over 10%
of the original costs, then we are required to go back
to the people in the LID to see if they are willing to
pay for it and have it installed.
Mrs. West asked how the rights -of -way are acquired and
how they are paid for. Mayor Todd stated an appraisor
will negotiate a fair market value with the property
owner. If the settlement is not acceptable, then it
goes into condemnation where the court decides a settle-
ment. Mrs. West asked when would she know the route of
the right -of -way. Steve Hall replied the engineer
chooses a right -of -way agent but the routes are now
fairly well fixed as they are.
Mr. Onorati stated these rights -of -way could be widened
and used for pedestrian and bicycle paths. Mayor Todd
stated the right -of -way may be used only for sewers.
Councilwoman Davis asked how soon will the roads be re-
stored and is there something in the agreement covering
this. Mayor Todd stated we cannot answer to the time
in restoring the streets because of the labor strikes
going on now. Under these conditions, the contract may
not be enforceable. It is of benefit to the contractor
to complete the work as soon as possible though. Steve
Hall stated we will have careful control over the
streets which will be kept graded or graveled during
construction. The streets will be overlaid in the
spring.
Mr. William Gorjance, 16604 53rd Ave. So., stated there
has been a history of slides in his area; who will be
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liable if the line breaks. Mayor Todd replied Val Vue
will acquire the lines and assume the responsibility.
Mr. Gorjance asked about the line if the slide origin-
ates from the freeway. Councilman Johanson stated Val
Vue would repair the damage and go to the State Highway
Department for redress. In any case, the lines must be
maintained from a health standpoint.
Councilman Gardner stated the preliminary assessment
roll was sent out a year ago on LID #23. Are we re-
quired to send out a new preliminary assessment roll?
Mayor Todd replied yes. Steve Hall stated it is the
same as the last one. Mayor Todd asked the audience
if they had received a new preliminary assessment.
The group replied no.
Mr. Onorati stated he would like to have a map, a state-
ment of monthly costs and a copy of the preliminary
assessment roll.
Councilwoman Harris asked if LID #26 contains the same
property as LID #23. Steve Hall replied no. Council-
woman Harris asked if some of the homeowners have
changed. Mr. Onorati stated some have changed and there
is one new house. Councilwoman Harris asked if there
are increases over 10% over last year. This is a new
LID and we should hold a public hearing, send out a new
preliminary assessment roll and start all over with it.
Mayor Todd stated if the costs are 10% or less, a new
preliminary assessment roll is not necessary. Steve
Hall stated according to Attorney Parker, there is no
need to begin this LID all over again since it commenced
with a petition and not by resolution as LID #23 was.
Councilwoman Harris asked City Treasurer Mae Harris if
the homeowner does not pay cash for his assessment, is
he required to get his own financing? Mae Harris re-
plied at the end of the 30 day period, all cash payments
are credited against the final assessment roll and the
remainder is financed by bonds. A ten year period re-
tired the bonds with interest. The homeowner is billed
once a year for one -tenth of the principle plus interest
on the unpaid balance.
Mr. Pieper stated it is administered exactly like real
estate taxes.
Councilman Gardner asked what amount will be applied
to the LID from grants. Steve Hall stated 90% on the
mains by E.P.A. and D.O.E. Councilman Gardner asked if
Val Vue will pay 15% on the rest. Steve Hall replied
yes.
Mr. Onorati stated he read in the Highline Times that
only $300,000 will be given by the Department of Ecology
and that Val Vue will pick up only 5% of it. This comes
to about $12.50 a foot. This is going to cost us a
fortune.
Councilman Gardner stated the north end adjacent to an
existing sewer main is paying its share of $28,000.
Mr. Kirsop asked Steve Hall to review the boundaries of
LID #26 and to point out the lines which will be in-
stalled under this contract. Steve Hall reviewed the
maps.
Councilman Sterling asked for an explanation of the 5%
Val Vue will be paying will they pay directly or
take care of the charges. Steve Hall replied they will
amortize the cost through monthly sewer charges.
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ATTEST:
Councilman Gardner asked if the City Attorney had stated
it was not necessary to hold a public hearing on this.
Mayor Todd stated yes, because of the petition method
of forming the LID.
Councilwoman Harris stated the roads in McMicken Heights
are in bad shape now. What type of contract does Val
Vue have with the firm that is building the road and
when will it be re- established. Steve Hall stated nor-
mally there is a deadline for completion except for
extenuating circumstances such as the A.G.C. strike and
resulting unavailability of asphalt.
Mr. Pieper stated the monthly charges are a concern.
The City of Tukwila sewer charges are $2.00 more than
Val Vue. Why should people on one side of the street
pay more for the same facility than their neighbors on
the other side of the street. This is the reason the
people felt it was unfair and cancelled LID #23. Steve
Hall stated everyone will be paying to Val Vue for LID
#26. Mayor Todd stated the charges should be the same.
Councilman Gardner stated Metro charges will be increas-
ed next year and he hoped the City will not have to pass
on the increase to its customers.
Councilman Saul stated he felt this LID was necessary.
ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY STERLING, THAT THE SPECIAL
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