HomeMy WebLinkAbout1974-09-03 Regular MinutesSeptember 3, 1974 TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
8:00 P.M. REGULAR MEETING
FLAG SALUTE AND
ROLL CALL OF
COUNCIL MEMBERS
MINUTE APPROVAL
RECESS
8:03 P.M. 8:05 P.M.
RECESS
8:07 P.M. 8:08 P.M.
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
Res. #448,
Permitting Fire
Dept. to form
Marine Safety
Division
Res. #449,
Permitting Fire
Chief as head of
Marine Safety
Division to
purchase equipment
for same
Ord. #882,
Transferring funds
to establish a
Marine Safety
Division
M I N U T E S
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Tukwila City Hall
Council Chambers
Mayor Todd led the Pledge of Allegiance and called
the meeting of the Tukwila City Council to order.
GARDNER, STERLING, TRAYNOR, DAVIS, HARRIS, SAUL,
JOHANSON.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY STERLING, THAT THE
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 12, 1974 BE
APPROVED AS PUBLISHED AND AMENDED.* Councilwoman
Davis stated she had not received a copy of this
amendment. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, TO
EXCUSE COUNCILWOMAN DAVIS FROM VOTING. CARRIED.
*CARRIED.
MOVED BY STERLING, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT COUNCIL-
MAN TRAYNOR BE EXCUSED FROM VOTING. CARRIED. MOVED
BY STERLING, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE
REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 19, 1974 BE APPROVED AS PUB-
LISHED.* Councilwoman Davis stated she had requested
an amendment to these Minutes. MOVED BY DAVIS,
SECONDED BY HARRIS, TO RECESS TO REVIEW THE TAPE.
CARRIED. Mayor Todd called the meeting back to order
with all Council Members present as previously listed.
The tape of the August 19, 1974 meeting was reviewed.
Deputy City Clerk Doris Phelps read the amendment to
the August 19 Minutes. MOVED BY DAVIS, SECONDED BY
HARRIS, THAT THE MINUTES BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE ON
PAGE 816 UNDER VOUCHER APPROVAL IN THE 26th LINE AND
INSERT "CITY CLERK'S" FOLLOWING THE WORD "THE" AND IN
THE NEXT LINE FOLLOWING THE WORD "HAD" STRIKE "INFORMED"
AND INSERT "NOT BILLED IN THE 29th LINE FOLLOWING
"ANDERSON" INSERT THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE "I TALKED TO
MR. ANDERSON AND HE STATED HE DID SEND SOMETHING IN
APRIL FOR OUR CONSIDERATION. Councilwoman Davis
questionned part of the amendment. MOVED BY TRAYNOR,
SECONDED BY STERLING, TO RECESS TO REVIEW TAPE.
CARRIED. *CARRIED, AS AMENDED.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY STERLING, THAT THE MINUTES
OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 5, 1974 BE AMENDED TO
INCLUDE ON PAGE 792 FOLLOWING THE VOTE IN THE THIRD
PARAGRAPH THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE "COUNCILWOMAN HARRIS
STATED SHE HAD ANOTHER APPOINTMENT TOMORROW NIGHT AND
WOULD NOT BE HERE." CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY STERLING, THAT PROPOSED
RESOLUTION BE READ. CARRIED. Attorney Parker read
proposed resolution permitting the Fire Department to
form a Marine Safety Division. MOVED BY STERLING,
SECONDED BY DAVIS, THAT RESOLUTION #448 BE ADOPTED AS
READ.* Councilman Sterling asked if this is a joint
effort of the Fire and Police Departments. Fire Chief
Hubert Crawley replied yes. *CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT PROPOSED
RESOLUTION BE READ. CARRIED. Attorney Parker read
proposed resolution permitting Fire Chief of the City
of Tukwila, as head of the Marine Safety Division to
secure equipment necessary for the operation of the
Marine Division. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY STERLING
THAT "RELATION" BE CHANGED TO "RELATING" CARRIED.
MOVED BY STERLING, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT RESOLU-
TION #449 BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED. CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT PROPOSED
ORDINANCE BE READ.* Chief Crawley explained the Marine
Safety Division and stated there have been many times
the City has been in need of a water recovery unit in
the last five years. We have always had to call for
outside help. The demand for this will increase too
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 2
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS Cont.
Ord. #882 Cont.
Proposed ordinance,
Council procedures
and City Attorney's
approval
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with the completion of the new King County Park along
the Green River. Councilman Sterling asked about the
list of equipment which the Chief had provided for the
Council at the Public Safety Committee meeting. Chief
Crawley stated he could provide one for the Council.
Councilman Traynor asked what the $20,000 would buy.
Chief Crawley stated a boat, motor and trailer, six
diving outfits, lines, dragging equipment, buoys, life
lines, radio equipment, etc. Councilman Traynor stated
he would like to see it written down and perhaps attach
ed to the ordinance before voting on it. Mayor Todd
asked where the equipment would be. Chief Crawley
stated it would belong to the office of emergency ser-
vices in the Andover Park Fire Station. Mayor Todd
asked how many calls for water related incidences are
received in comparison to all other aid calls. Chief
Crawley stated about 1% or 2%. Mayor Todd asked how
many of these calls have been reported so far this year
Chief Crawley replied approximately three. Councilman
Gardner stated we also need a second aid car and asked
if these functions could be combined in one vehicle.
Chief Crawley stated no, there is a space problem with
the aid car equipment and this other equipment too.
MOVED BY STERLING, SECONDED BY HARRIS, TO TABLE TO
END OF AGENDA. CARRIED.
Councilwoman Harris stated this proposed ordinance was
introduced last week and referred to the City Attorney
and she would like to hear from him now. Attorney
Parker stated a lot of time and effort has gone into
the preparation of this proposed ordinance, but that
he has come up with enough reasons which he feels are
significant for recommending that it not be passed at
this time. Attorney Parker then reviewed the Sections
of the proposed ordinance. He stated the title and
content are in violation of R.C.W. 35.24.210 in that
there is more than one subject matter covered. Section
I. G. is in conflict with Paragraph A. This could be
detrimental to the City under certain circumstances.
The purpose of Section I. B. could be accomplished
easily by amending the present ordinance to hold regu-
lar meetings on the first and third meeting and change
the time of the meeting. Section I C. provides for
Committee of the Whole meetings. This provision for
meetings on the second and fourth Mondays by the Counci:
sitting as a committee is proper. It is nevertheless
a Council meeting even if it is called a committee
meeting. The provision for a meeting on the second and
fourth Thursday calls for meetings which are also Coun-
cil meetings since the time and place is fixed by this
proposed ordinance. They are regular meetings. That
is the definition of a regular meeting a meeting
which is fixed by ordinance and as such, the Thursday
meetings are in violation of R.C.W. 35.24.180 and this
was the same objection to the ordinance passed some
time in the past. He stated he very pointedly disa-
greed with the interpretation of Mr. Ronald C. Kinsey
in his letter to Mrs. Harris dated June 6, 1974. He
took the position that a regular Council meeting is
normally presided over by the Mayor and that since
these other Committee of the Whole meetings or Thursday
meetings would not be presided over by Mayor, that they
are not regular meetings. That is not the case. The
true test of a meeting is a regular meeting or not is
not determined by who presides over it but when the
time and place are set by ordinance, it is a regular
meeting. R.C.W. 42.30.020 defines governing body as
the multi- member Council of a public agency. Meeting
means the meeting in which action is taken. Action is
defined by the Statute in terms that are so broad that
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 3
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS Cont.
Proposed ordinance
Council procedures
Cont.
any gathering constitutes a meeting. Any gathering at
which four Council Members are present constitutes a
meeting. This definition in part reads as follows:
including, but not limited to, a collective
decision, commitment or promise, to make a positive or
negative decision and so forth. We had an
occasion to refer to a California case here a couple
of months back in connection with the Open Meeting
Law. The judge in that case held that an Elks' Club
meeting attended by the County Commissioners, a major-
ity of the Commissioners, at which public business was
discussed constituted a meeting because the subjective
mental processes of the Commissioners in attendance
constituted action and the meeting was in violation of
the Open Meeting Act, from which the Washington law is
patterned. He stated his objections can be overcome,
and that by meeting on the second and fourth Thursdays
not as an entire body or Council but as a three member
committee and that is not considered a meeting of the
governing body. If it is desired on these Thursday
meetings that the entire Council or a majority of the
Council should meet, then a notice of a special meet-
ing can be given and the entire Council can meet under
the rules given for the holding of special meetings.
Section I. D. provides for special meetings and this
is not necessary because it is already covered by
R.C.W. 42.30.080. Sections E. and F. are also not
necessary because they are covered by the Statute as
is Section G. and there appears to be some conflict
in that all meetings are declared to be open and public
meetings. He stated he felt it is improper to simply
recite the State Statutes in a City ordinance because
the State Statute is subject to amendment by the Legis-
lature, we are governed by it anyway. If we include
it in here, it costs money to print these ordinances
up. It is handy to have in one document a comprehen-
sive collection of all ordinances and laws that govern
the City, but this can be accomplished not by passing
an ordinance which is too involved to even qualify
under the Statute prescribing the form for an ordi-
nance but by preparing a handbook of some sort. It is
not necessary to make the Statutes a part of the
written law of the City. Every time the Legislature
changes one of these Statutes, then we are going to
find the City's ordinances in conflict with the State
law. Section III is much the same as the Statute with
one exception. R.C.W. 35.24.190 provides that the
Mayor Pro -Tem shall be elected at the first regular
meeting after each general municipal election. We have
a conflict in the State law, R.C.W. 29.13.050 provides
for the assumption of office on the second Monday in
January after the municipal general election. This
creates a rather cumbersome situation, but is not in
conflict with R.C.W. 35.24.190. This discrepancy was
brought out in Mr. Kinsey's letter and he suggested
that the wording be changed to provide for the Mayor
Pro -Tem being elected after January 1st. Nevertheless,
this is in conflict with the existing State law. It
would be far better to omit any change in this and
simply be governed by the State law, and hope that the
Legislature will make any necessary corrections at its
next session. There are always grounds for legal
action when you attempt to get around or operate in
variance with the State laws. Section III. B. is a
proper addition to the ordinance and should be enacted
but not in this all inclusive ordinance. A special
ordinance could make provision for this. Section IV.
is the same as the State law with the exception of pro-
viding for selecting a presiding officer and this is
beneficial in the absence of the Mayor or Mayor Pro -Tem
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 4
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS Cont.
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Proposed ordinance Attorney Parker stated Section V is a good provision
Council procedures and will eliminate any ambiguity that could result in
Cont. the event of the resignation or death of a Council Mem-
ber. Section VI,establishment of standing committees,
will in effect actually duplicate the work of the de-
partment heads. This could result in a conflict or
difference in opinions. The City Council Members are
part time and earning their livelihood outside the
City government and cannot take the time to be as in-
formed as the department heads who are working full
time at the job. He recommended this Section be
omitted. Section VI. E. was recited by Attorney Parker
He stated this is clearly a violation of the Open Meet-
ing Law. If you have three members of a standing com-
mittee meeting and a fourth member who is not a member
of that standing committee is present at this meeting,
you have a meeting of the majority of the Council.
This then is a Council meeting for all practical pur-
poses and to permit such a meeting without notice or
keeping regular Minutes would be in violation of the
Open Meeting Act. If such a meeting was to be held,
it could be held after public notice and would be a
special meeting to consider only one subject matter.
Section VII, appointments, is also covered by State
Statute but this has varied from the Statute. This
provision eliminates the power of the City by ordinance
to authorize the appointments of appointive officers.
For example this could, if passed, disable the City by
making it impossible to appoint a public works director
which is provided by ordinance and not by State law or
to appoint for the Municipal Court a judge pro -tem.
This ordinance would not allow the judge to appoint a
court commissioner or a public defender. He stated
this provision should be eliminated. Section VIII
deals with bids and we have discussed this before.
This is simply an administerial act to receive the
bids, read them, consolidate them and present them to
the Council for action. It is very cumbersome and time
consuming to have the Council Members assume the phys-
ical act of opening the bids. This authority should
be delegated to the public works director and members
of the full time City staff. If the Council chooses
to meet regularly twice a month, it could delay accept-
ing these bids by two to four weeks even if they are
allowed to receive them on alternate Mondays when the
Council meets as a Committee of the Whole. There is
no need to delay over something of this sort. Section
IX deals with the order of business and calls for the
reading of an ordinances two times and does not see the
purpose in this. It seems more of a ritual than any-
thing else and has no meaningful purpose whatsoever.
The intent he felt in this case is to allow a little
more time to consider some of these things and that is
proper, but in cases where more time is required all
that is necessary is a Motion to Table the legislation
to a later meeting. It is far better to operate under
this procedure than to require these readings on two
separate occasions which would be the first and third
meetings of the month if this ordinance is passed.
Many times we have simple ordinances which transfer
funds from one account to another and it is possible to
include in the ordinance an emergency provision but
these are really not emergencies. There is no reason
why they cannot wait two to three weeks but there is
no reason why they should. A Motion to Table is far
better and would not be called upon in many cases.
Section XIII provides for an ordinance to be published
and in addition to be posted in three different places
(City Hall, City Hall Annex and the City Park). This
is not required by State law which requires either pub-
lishing or posting. This is an added burden on the
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 5
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS Cont.
Proposed ordinance City and is beyond the requirements of State law. This
Council procedures could result in a challenge to the legislation perhaps
Cont. if someone forgets to post an ordinance then an affi-
davit must be made. Keeping things simple is the best
thing to do and posting these is fine but it is not
a good idea to make it a legal necessity. There are
also unnecessary provisions regarding the way in which
meetings are conducted. These provisions are also
covered by Robert's Rules of Order and there is no
need to repeat these things. All that is necessary
is to state that the meetings are governed by Robert's
Rules of Order. If we vary from Robert's Rules of
Order, then there can be a special section in the ordi-
nance. He stated he felt the ordinance should not be
passed and if it is passed, he would hope it is vetoed.
Mayor Todd questionned Section III in that the Council
will elect from their number a person to serve if a
vacancy should occur in the Office of Mayor. Attorney
Parker stated this is the State law as it now exists.
Councilman Sterling asked if any other cities have not
included State statutes in their ordinances. Attorney
Parker replied he did know now of any that have. Coun-
cilman Sterling stated the City of Renton has and so
has King County. Attorney Parker stated there is no
need to repeat what we are already governed by. It
would be better if you wanted to have everything in
one package to have a hand book of some kind. As soon
as the State law is changed, and they are changing all
the time, then we have to amend the ordinance. It is
bothersome to do and it must be printed in the newspa-
per which is expensive. It must also be printed in the
Municipal Code which is also costly to revise. Coun-
cilman Sterling asked if it is the Attorney's opinion
that any of these items in this ordinance that violate
the State law. Would any other cities using this same
ordinance be violating the State law? Some of these
sections were taken from other ordinances. Attorney
Parker stated some of the Code cities might be able to
function with a law or provision which would be impro-
per for a third -class city. Councilman Sterling asked
if he needed Council permission to get a tape recording
of the Council meeting tape regarding the Attorney's
comments. Mayor Todd stated it is public record and
available to anyone. Councilwoman Harris asked Attor-
ney Parker to prepare his comments in written form for
the Council Members tonight. Attorney Parker replied
no, he would have the secretary type them up. Council-
woman Harris stated Attorney Parker's logic is absolute
ly amazing and could not believe what she was hearing.
She could not believe an attorney could put together
logic like that. This ordinance was evolved from con-
sulting not only the Municipal Research and Service
Center of Washington which works in association with
the Association of Washington Cities and they have a
very fine staff there who are quite expert in their
field. This ordinance incorporates many of the change:
and in fact almost all of the changes requested by Mr.
Kinsey. She stated she had sought out expert knowledge
from King County. Some of the language in the ordinance
comes from the City of Kennewick which was a third
class city and the City of Pasco which is still a third
class city. She stated she had notes on the proposed
ordinance reciting every source and if it is legal
somewhere else, how come it can't be legal in the City
of Tukwila. Attorney Parker suggested perhaps Council-
woman Harris is reading it improperly. Councilwoman
Harris asked if she is reading Mr. Kinsey's letter im-
properly where he states it is all right to have Commit
tee of the Whole meetings scheduled as we have because
they are not regular Council meetings. They are commit
tee meetings. Attorney Parker stated Mr. Kinsey is
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 6
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS Cont.
Proposed ordinance mistaken. Mayor Todd asked if Mr. Kinsey is an attor-
Council procedures ney. Councilwoman Harris replied yes, he is the legal
Cont. consultant of the Association of Washington Cities.
Mayor Todd asked who Dr. Campbell is and what connec-
tion he has with the Assocation. Councilwoman Harris
stated he was formerly the Executive Director. She
stated this ordinance is legal, we have consulted out-
side help to do an objective and unbiased critique on
the proposed ordinance, we have included the changes
suggested in the new edition to my, her knowledge the
City Attorney has not proven to her where it is not
legal. Attorney Parker stated he could not prove any-
thing to her. Councilwoman Harris replied at this
point in time she would agree with that. The whole
point of the Open Meeting Act and the A.G.O. is that if
a quorum of the City Council meets, there should be
public notice and the public and the press is entitled
to attend. That does not say you cannot meet or that
you cannot take any kind of action. It says if you
do meet and hold discussion the public is entitled to
partake of the proceedings leading up to the final
action of the Council taken at a regular meeting. The
California case involved a luncheon meeting and the
only reason they were cited was because the press had
asked to attend and the meeting was a closed session.
That was the reason because it was a closed meeting,
not because they met, had the public been informed.
Our proposed ordinance by virtue of the fact that we
have adopted by ordinance times and meeting places of
the Council and its regular meetings and its Committee
of the Whole meetings, and we have also proposed that
each standing committee will publish by resolution
times and meeting places of its meetings will have
complied by meeting the 24 hour notice requirement.
No where does it say that four members of the Council
cannot meet at any other time except at a regular meet-
ing, but if they do, the public has to have notice.
This is why we proposed this ordinance so explicitly.
The public will have a chance to know when and where
we will be meeting and what we will be discussing.
Also on our rules pertaining to the order of business
the public is provided the chance to say how they feel
about matters being discussed as we are doing now.
The ordinance gives the staff an opportunity to meet
with the Council in between regular meetings for dis-
cussion. This will help avoid some embarrassing situ-
ations for the staff, the Council and the audience
and will help everyone plan their time a lot more effi-
ciently. The intent of the ordinance is to get some
organization in our Council, get some planning and most
importantly, give the public to be well informed.
Attorney Parker stated he has been criticized for not
advising the Council and that he should come to their
rescue when they get into trouble. He stated when
this ordinance first came up for consideration that
you and four other of the members would get into trou-
ble and advised you then it was the wrong thing to do,
and sure enough this is one of the reasons for recall.
Councilman Sterling asked if the ordinance was passed.
Attorney Parker replies yes, and it was vetoed by the
Mayor. This ordinance if passed will get you into
trouble. Councilwoman Harris stated that ordinance had
been vetoed and therefore was an inactive ordinance and
could not have illegal since it was a dead issue.
There is no such thing as an illegal ordinance. It
takes an action in court and a judge to decide these
things. That is the proper forum for a challenge to
any legislation. Attorney Parker stated he could not
sit by and let the Council make a mistake without tell-
ing you about it. Councilman Traynor stated he object-
ed to the ordinance because there was more than one
ordinance tied up in it, more than one titled subject.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 7
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS Cont.
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Proposed ordinance He stated regardless of the A.G.O. and Mr. Kinsey's
Council procedures letter, any time the Council schedules a meeting it is
Cont. a regular meeting. Two weeks out of the month we will
have two meetings per week which is in violation of the
R.C.W. Councilman Johanson stated it seems the City
Attorney has more of an opinion of what the Council
should and should not do than to the legal approval as
to form. He stated he has heard many people on the
proposed two meetings per week and is convinced it is
proper as long as no action is taken at the second
meeting. He interprets action in this case as action
to develop, to create, to say yes or no to a resolu-
tion, ordinance or order. There was no action taken
at the work sessions we formerly held. Action was tak-
en at the regular meeting where the Council voted. It
is silly to nitpick at all of this when you understand
the intent. What is the City Attorney's suggestion if
this is not what you want. Councilman Johanson asked
Councilman Traynor what other subjects are involved
in the ordinance. It is procedures. Councilman Tray-
nor stated it covers Council committees, Council meet-
ings, order of the business of the meetings. Council-
woman Harris stated she recalled that Councilman Tray-
nor was one of the proponents of a Thursday night
agenda meeting during the March 21 Committee of the
Whole meeting. This was written into the ordinance
reflecting your wishes. As far as standing committees
are concerned, any Council can establish its own rules
for its own procedures. She then quoted from the
appropriate section of the King County ordinance which
establishes standing committees. She stated the City
of Pasco's ordinance also established standing commit-
tees. She indicated a letter sent to Councilman Traynor
from Mr. Kinsey dated February 22, 1974. Councilman
Traynor stated he is not objecting to the Council com-
mittees, but he does feel they should be covered on a
separate ordinance. Mayor Todd stated he only objected
to illegal standing committees of the Council. He
has taken the position that all standing committees
of the Council appointed by the Council are illegal
because there is no enabling legislation that author-
izes the Council to appoint standing committees or have
standing committees. Councilwoman Harris stated
stated the Council is in the process of establishing
this right now. Mayor Todd stated there is nothing
right now. In the past it has been the practice that
the Mayor appoint these committees. Councilman Traynor
suggested eliminating the second and fourth Monday
meetings and leaving the Thursday meetings as agenda
meetings. Those Mondays could then be available for
special meetings. Councilwoman Davis stated that is
not the purpose of these meetings because only one
topic can be discussed at a special meeting. Attorney
Parker stated there is no objection to the meetings as
regular meetings on Monday. It is the Thursday meet-
ings that become illegal. Councilman Johanson stated
he is specifically in favor of this ordinance primarily
because of the second and fourth work session meetings
on Monday. Councilman Traynor suggested then to drop
the Thursday meetings. Attorney Parker stated the
Thursday meeting can be publicized as a special meeting
to consider the agenda only and it would be legal.
Councilman Sterling stated as he understands it, the
Council can have committee meetings on Thursday if it
is not set forth in the ordinance. Attorney Parker
stated that is correct. Councilman Gardner stated any-
one can see that we need this ordinance passed because
we turn every regular meeting into a work meeting just
to get information, like we have been doing for the
last hour. He stated he is in favor of this ordinance
and if there is something wrong with it, we can change
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 8
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS Cont.
Special Report:
LID #19 and #20
CORRESPONDENCE AND CURRENT BUSINESS
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Proposed ordinance it later. Councilwoman Harris stated this has all
Council procedures boiled down to a matter of opinion and not legal fact.
Cont. She then read from Mr. Kinsey's letter to her dated
June 6, 1974. A copy of this letter is on file in the
City Clerk's office. She stated the ordinance sets
two regular meetings per month which are not in the
same week. Council committee meetings are authorized
by R.C.W. 35.24.200 and that the Council may establish
rules for the conduct of its proceedings. She stated
regular Council meetings are those normally presided
by the Mayor as stated in R.C.W. 35.24.200; however,
Committee of the Whole meetings would be presided over
by the President of the Council. This is a routine
practice in almost every incorporated city in this
State and many counties. And if this is legal else-
where, why cannot it be legal in Tukwila? Councilman
Sterling stated he intended to get another legal opin-
ion on Section VI.E. regarding a three member committee
meeting with a fourth member of the Council present.
He stated as he understood the explanation, this would
violate the Open Meeting Act because the fourth member
would result in a quorum. These committee meetings
will be advertised to the public. Attorney Parker
stated assuming the Council has validly appointed com-
mittees it is not necessary to give notice of these
meetings. If you have four Council members present
then it becomes a regular meeting or a special meeting.
With the special meeting, notice must be given. You
have added this additional element that you are going
to give notice of this meeting as required of a special
meeting. And if this is the case, you have a special
meeting going. MOVED BY STERLING, SECONDED BY HARRIS,
TO TABLE FOR ONE WEEK. CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY STERLING, TO AMEND THE
AGENDA TO INCLUDE A SPECIAL REPORT ON LID #19 AND #20
BY STEVE HALL, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. CARRIED.
Steve Hall gave a brief background on the LIDs. He
stated he had received verbal commitments that more
funding will be forthcoming from E.P.A. The bond
counselors recommended that the final assessment roll
hearing be established prior to the bid award to es-
tablish a final cost and to see if the people definite-
ly want to go or not. A preliminary assessment roll
is not the final commitment. He recommended the final
assessment roll be advertised September 11, 1974 and
that Hill, Ingman and Chase be directed to mail the
final assessment roll to all property owners by Septem-
ber 13, 1974. October 2, 1974 will be scheduled as
the final assessment roll public hearing at 7:00 P.M.
for LID #19 and at 8:00 P.M. for LID #20. Ninety days
from stay of award to when bids are automatically can-
celled are allowed, then there can be no further delay.
At the October 7, 1974 regular Council meeting, the
Council will confirm the final assessment roll subject
to a 10 day appeal period. The cost overrun amounted
to about 50%. MOVED BY STERLING, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR,
TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PUBLIC WORKS
DIRECTOR. CARRIED.
Request for Mayor Todd read a letter addressed to him from Fire
Firefighters Chief Hubert Crawley dated August 29, 1974 informing
equipment administration of the staff and equipment situation
upon opening of the new Andover Park Fire Station.
Councilman Sterling asked Chief Crawley if he had any
money budgeted to bring on trainees before 1975 Budget
requests. Chief Crawley replied no. Councilwoman
Harris asked if all trucks would be in the new Station,
Chief Crawley replied no, one and perhaps two would be
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 9
CORRESPONDENCE AND CURRENT BUSINESS Cont.
Firefighters E left on the hill. Councilwoman Harris stated she felt
equipment Cont. uncomfortable with only one professional Firefighter
here on the hill and would like a bigger professional
crew on duty for the residents. She stated the new
Station would be of more benefit to the McMicken Height
area. Mayor Todd stated these additional men would
result in a better fire rating for the City. Mr. Lloyd
Hartong asked when was the last time the City was
rated. Chief Crawley replied in 1967. He stated he
has been working with the Rating Bureau frequently and
is hoping to get a rating of 5 this time. Mrs. Rena
Holloway asked why the Southcenter Station could not
be the auxiliary station and requested a six month
report from the Fire Department. Chief Crawley stated
the larger volume of responses is in the industrial
area where the risk and most valuable property is and
it is where the inspectors will be looking. Mrs.
Eleanor McLester stated the lives of the residents on
the hill should be more important. She felt strongly
that if the Fire Department cannot properly man both
Stations, the residential Fire Station should be put
first. She stated the businesses have fire protection
systems installed that our homes do not have. Mayor
Todd stated perhaps the $20,000 allotted for the skin
divers could be better spent for the wages for three
months for new trainees. Councilman Sterling stated
he assumed the Fire Department's preliminary budget
would contain all that is necessary for next year. He
suggested Chief Crawley put his proposals in the 1975
preliminary budget and let the Council review it then.
Councilman Traynor and Chief Crawley discussed proposals
on the different shifts, personnel and equipment involv
ed. Councilman Traynor stated he hoped our mutual aid
agreements would help bail us out in emergencies.
Mrs. Robert Crain asked what legal responsibility does
the City have to the Southcenter area. If the Fire
Department does not respond, can the City be sued?
Attorney Parker replied yes and Chief Crawley concurred
Mrs. Sis Robinson stated when she first moved into
Tukwila, there were two Firemen in Tukwila and the vol-
unteers had always been quick to respond to the siren.
They all had the E.M.T. training. Discussion continued
on the time in response to areas of the City. Council-
woman Davis congratulated the Fire Department on its
fast response time and outstanding performance. Council
man Saul asked if there are any active volunteers in
the Southcenter area. Chief Crawley stated he request-
ed volunteers but had no response. Councilwoman Harris
thanked Chief Crawley for the letter.
RECESS MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY DAVIS, TO RECESS FOR 10
10:03 P.M. 10:18 P.M. MINUTES. CARRIED. Mayor Todd called the meeting back
to order with all Council Members present as previously
listed.
Ord. #882 Cont.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY STERLING, THAT AGENDA ITEM
4. c. BE RECONSIDERED AT THIS TIME. CARRIED. MOVED BY
STERLING, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT PROPOSED ORDINANCE
BE READ. CARRIED. Attorney Parker read proposed ordi-
nance transferring funds from the Federal Revenue Shar-
ing Fund to the Current Fund to establish a Marine Safe
ty Division under direction of the Fire Department.
MOVED BY STERLING, SECONDED BY HARRIS, TO ADOPT ORD.
#882 AS READ.* Councilman Traynor stated he would like
to investigate some of the costs because they seem high
Councilwoman Harris stated it was discussed at the Com-
mittee meeting that these costs are estimates and pro-
bably would not run as high on each item. It would be
better to insure that enough money was budgeted to pay
for these items rather than underfund the project.
Councilman Johanson asked why the vehicle was necess-
ary. Chief Crawley stated it was requested to haul the
diving equipment, life support equipment and other
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 10
CORRESPONDENCE AND CURRENT BUSINESS Cont.
Ord. #882 Cont.
Certificate of
Appreciation to
Fire Dept.
Discussion: Golf
Course appraisal
9g9
items. Councilman Johanson asked if the Civil Defense
truck could be used. Chief Crawley stated the truck
will be going to the City of Redmond. Councilman
Sterling requested a brief run down of each item being
requested. Chief Crawley reviewed the list. Council-
man Saul stated it is a matter of priorities with the
Revenue Sharing. What about the aid car and the park
programs? This diving program does not seem like a
number one priority. Councilman Traynor stated he had
been on two calls as a volunteer in the past and the
King County Sheriff had done this type of work and he
did not think the Sheriff's Department had all of this
listed equipment. He stated he did not see why the
cost of this has to be so high. Chief Crawley stated
the Public Safety Committee had recommended the program
be set up right the first time. Councilwoman Davis
stated there are special problems on the River that
require this special type of boat and motor. Chief
Crawley stated the boat can run in 4 inches of water
and is especially designed for rivers. Councilman
Sterling stated we do need another aid car but we also
need the diving apparatus which can be available to
other communities along the River. We have a responsi-
bility in this City to take care of people in that
River. The divers should have the best equipment to
do the job. Councilwoman Harris stated she agreed and
added the Park Board has requested some of the Federal
Revenue Sharing funds and we must not forget them.
Councilman Sterling asked how many other cities have
a diving staff. Chief Crawley stated he knew Kent had
one. Councilman Saul suggested a mutual aid agreement
with King County. Councilman Johanson referred to an
incident where recently a boy had drowned in Tukwila.
It is an obligation of the City and he supported the
program, but he stated he would like to be a little
more sold on the cost. Mrs. Phyllis Pesicka stated
she heard it stated that there were three calls this
year. Is this going to be a life- saving operation?
Chief Crawley replied no, but it could be. Mrs. Anna
Bernhard stated the City does not get charged by King
County for the service. The divers here could not get
into a wet suit fast enough to save a life. Mr. Ed
Bauch asked what would come first if it were the aid
car versus the divers. Chief Crawley stated the aid
car is budgeted under separate funds and if he were
given a choice, he would back the aid car but that this
would not relieve us of the responsibility of a diving
unit. Councilman Traynor asked if the program could
get going without the van and the boat. Chief Crawley
stated it could be trimmed. Councilwoman Harris stated
at the Committee meeting, it was suggested by the Coun-
cil Members to put the entire package of $20,000 before
the Council this year. Mayor Todd pointed out the lia-
bility risk of this and asked the Council to consider
insurance. *ROLL CALL VOTE: 4 AYES STERLING, DAVIS,
HARRIS, JOHANSON; 3 NOS GARDNER, TRAYNOR, SAUL.
CARRIED.
Mayor Todd read the Certificate of Appreciation to the
Fire Department from the U.S. Army Reserve. The Police
Department also received this commendation.
Mayor Todd read a memo from Gary Kucinski, Planning
Director, which stated the King County Assessor values
the property at $656,000 for the Westerly portion.
Mayor Todd then read a letter from A. Wesley Hodge,
Attorney for the Golf Course owners dated August 28,
1974 which stated the owners would accept an option or
an earnest money agreement before they would furnish
any financial information to the City. Councilman
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 11
CORRESPONDENCE AND CURRENT BUSINESS Cont.
Discussion: Golf
Course appraisal
Cont.
Special Meeting
City Hall site
presentation
Discussion: Gambling
Special Meeting:
Gambling
OLD BUSINESS
Discussion:
Statement of policy
Payment for eyeglasses
tszs
Sterling stated a new appraisal would cost approximate-
ly $800 and could be available by September 10. Does
the Council want to spend the $800? He stated he would
like to see if the County is assessing the property on
M' -1 zoning and the figures which the Mayor presented
may not represent a complete appraisal on all the pro-
perty. There is a deadline of September 20 to get this
on the November general election ballot. The Council
has gone on record to get this on the ballot. Council-
man Saul suggested putting it on the ballot at $2.355
million, but he stated he did not think the voters
would buy if it is being assessed at only $800,000.
He stated he did not think the Council should approve
an update of the appraisal by Blaine and Halliday.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, TO TABLE FOR
ONE WEEK. CARRIED.
Mayor Todd read a letter from Benjamin McAdoo's office
dated September 3, 1974 requesting the Special Meeting
be postponed due to Mr. McAdoo's recent extended ill-
ness. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT THE
SPECIAL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 4, 1974 BE CANCELLED AND
THAT NOTICE BE GIVEN THAT THIS SPECIAL MEETING BE RE-
SCHEDULED TO SEPTEMBER 25, 1974 AT 7:30 P.M. IN THE
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS.* Councilwoman Davis stated
now it is not possible to get this on the ballot and
she would rather someone else give this presentation
some time before the 20th of September. *CARRIED
WITH HARRIS, TRAYNOR, STERLING AND GARDNER VOTING YES.
Councilman Johanson stated very few people attended the
Special Meeting on gambling last week. He stated he
would recommend that a commission to control gambling
be established. He stated he received a reply from the
Association of Washington Cities that the Council could
set up a commission of citizens. He stated it would be
difficult to empower them with the policing powers to
enforce the rules. The State Legislature has given
the enforcement to law agencies only. He stated the
Council could appoint a marshall to continue the pro-
posal. Councilwoman Davis stated she had made the
Motion to hold that Special Meeting and it had been
her intent for the Council to draft an ordinance then.
We should hold another Special Meeting to draft our
ordinance. Councilwoman Harris suggested the Public
Safety Committee draft an ordinance at its next meeting
to present to the Council next Monday night. Council-
woman Davis stated that three members could not have
enough input and would rather the Council of the Whole
meet to consider this. Councilman Gardner stated he
could not be available to attend any meetings next
week. MOVED BY STERLING, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT A
SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COUNCIL BE HELD WEDNESDAY, SEP-
TEMBER 11, 1974 AT 7:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TO CONSIDER WORDING ON A PROPOSED GAMBLING ORDINANCE.
CARRIED.
Councilman Sterling stated at a previous Council meet-
ing it was decided that no more payments would be made
for eyeglasses which have never been a legal obligation
of the City but which some Department Heads have let
slip through. The City had begun paying this some time
in the past. City Clerk Shirlee Kinney stated her
Department could not determine if these bills are ille-
gal but did determine that they were correct. It is
up to the Council to decide whether or not they should
be paid. Councilman Sterling stated somebody had to
submit a bill for payment before the Council approved
it, and at that time, the City had never paid for
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 12
OLD BUSINESS Cont.
Discussion
Eyeglasses Cont.
NEW BUSINESS
Council Budget
Meeting
City Council file
cabinets
New door in the
Council Chambers
257
glasses. Then someone else submitted a bill and so on
until the City ended up paying these bills. When the
Council learned the City is not responsible for paying
for the glasses, we refused to pay this employee who
is now asking for payment and was under the impression
the City had a policy of paying for glasses. The Coun-
cil should make a policy statement but this employee
should be paid. It is not the employee's fault that
the Council started paying for the glasses. Council-
man Sterling stated he did find fault with whatever
Department Head started slipping these bills through
to the Council which in turn we should have caught.
Councilman Traynor stated the Council should read the
oath which the Department Head signs on each voucher,
that the bill being submitted is a legal obligation of
the City. There is quite a difference between the
amounts ofthe bills for glasses and this one for con-
tact lenses. This is not an obligation of the City,
not even under the L.E.F.F. Act. Councilman Saul sug-
gested paying the employee the amount that would have
been paid for glasses according to past bills. Mrs.
Anna Bernhard asked if the employee must wear contact
lenses out of necessity. Councilman Traynor stated
O.S.H.A. will not approve contact lenses for safety
reasons. Councilwoman Harris stated that contact
lenses are very sensible in the line of Police work.
She stated the Department Head may have been advised
that these payments were an obligation of the City.
Councilman Sterling stated we established a precedence
the first time we approved a payment. Councilman Jo-
hanson stated this is an improper bill and it was im-
properly presented by a Department Head to the Council.
He stated he is personally against paying it and feels
disappointed that any Department would take advantage
of the Council in this way. Councilman Saul stated
he would like to see what was paid in the past. He
stated he was sure this was something that was simply
overlooked and was not deliberate on anyone's part.
He stated he would be willing to pay equal to what has
been paid in the past. It is a matter of justice.
Councilman Johanson asked where is the justice to the
taxpayers. MOVED BY DAVIS, SECONDED BY HARRIS, TO
TABLE ONE WEEK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. CARRIED. City
Clerk Shirlee Kinney stated she would research the
vouchers paid for eyeglasses during the past few years.
Councilwoman Harris stated the Council must submit its
1975 Budget proposals to the City Clerk by September
23. MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS 1975 COUNCIL
BUDGET PROPOSALS ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 1974 AT
7:30 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS. CARRIED.
Councilwoman Harris stated the two filing cabinets des-
ignated for the Council are not being used and could
perhaps be loaned to some other Department. She stated
Jack Lewis had requested one of them. Councilwoman
Davis felt only one should be released since some of
the Council Members are using one. Councilmen Sterling
and Saul stated if someone needs a cabinet, they would
remove their papers.
Mayor Todd complimentedthe Building Department on the
installation of a new exit door from the Council Cham-
bers. He then quoted the increase of building permits
issued for this August over August, 1973.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 13
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Eleanor McLester
Nancy Moore
Councilman Traynor
Xerox machine
Bicentennial Ice
Cream Social
Councilwoman Harris
Mrs. McLester asked Councilman Traynor if he had chair-
ed the alleged illegal meeting in March and did he
write the Minutes of that meeting? If one Council Mem-
ber is guilty, are not all Council Members guilty?
If the five Members of the City Council are recalled,
does Councilman Traynor intend to resign as a matter
of honor? Councilman Traynor stated he did chair the
meeting and did write the Minutes. He stated he did
not feel this is a matter of honor because he does not
believe that was an illegal meeting and he would not
resign.
Mrs. Moore stated Councilman Traynor had been drawn up
in the recall charges, but the committee did not have
enough legal charges against him to stand up in court.
Councilman Traynor stated he has tried to stay clear
of the recall for the best interests of the City. He
stated he would not express his own personal opinions
at the Council table on this subject. He stated he
has never chosen up sides and that he has friends who
are being recalled.
Mayor Todd stated over the weekend, there were over
140 unaccounted copies made on the machine in the City
Clerk's office. If anyone is using that machine,
please record the number of copies.
Councilman Saul extended his thanks and congratulations
to all those who worked at the Bicentennial Ice Cream
Social on Sunday and stated the City will have the
A.R.B.C. flag flying over the Fire Station for the
next two years in commemoration of the Bicentennial
Celebration. Mayor Todd congratulated Councilman Saul.
Councilwoman Harris stated she would like to know the
manner in which the legal publications for the City are
transmitted to the Highline Times. City Clerk Shirlee
Kinney stated those notices are sent by certified mail
and receipts are kept in her office. Councilwoman Har-
ris asked if there is a receipt for the notice of the
March 21 meeting. She stated a copy of the form used
for meeting notices was put in the Council's mailboxes
on March 4 with two other public notices. The other
two notices were published, but the one public notice
intended to announce the Council of the Whole meeting
of March 21 did not even get to the newspaper. She
wanted to know why. The Council was led to believe
that this was published on March 6 and 13 of this year.
Who is responsible for it not getting published? This
is an area of grave concern because the Council in all
good faith felt it was meeting pursuant to a published
notice in our legal newspaper. She stated she thought
the Council had been sand bagged. Councilwoman Harris
demanded to know why tonight. If there is a receipt
for a certified mailing of this notice then City Hall
is off the hook. Somebody is on the hook. This meet-
ing had been announced at three previous Council Meet-
ings with the public and the press sitting in the audi-
ence. Councilman Sterling stated this is a good point
and that this issue is one he would have sued about.
If this was intentionally withheld from publication,
then the Council was sold down the river. Discussion
followed between members of the audience and the Coun-
cil and Mayor Todd stated the Council meeting is not
the proper forum for recall discussions. Councilman
Johanson asked if the Concerned Citizens Committee had
ever met in the City Hall building. Mrs. Sis Robinson
replied no. Councilman Sterling stated he would like
a written answer to Councilwoman Harris' request.
MOVED BY DAVIS, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT A WRITTEN
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 3, 1974
Page 14
AUDIENCE COMMENTS Cont.
Shirlee Kinney,
City Clerk
Councilwoman Davis
Shirlee Kinney
Councilwoman Davis
Shirlee Kinney
Councilwoman Davis
Councilwoman Harris
Mayor Todd
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ANSWER BE GIVEN THE COUNCIL IN THE NEXT WEEK.*
City Clerk Shirlee Kinney stated she would like to make
a point of clarification here. She thought she had
explained this before. "When you talked about this
March 21, 1974 notice, is that the correct date, I had
not realized it was that current of one. It was after
that problem came about, that when that notice didn't
get in, that I began sending notices by certified mail.
Now prior to that time, I had been handing them to the
reporter from the paper, for a while it was the Record
Chronicle and then it was the Highline Times. I would
hand to them that evening the copies of ordinances that
were passed, notices and so on. And it was after that
particular special meeting notice was not received by
them and I got a call from the Highline Times saying
that they did not receive it, on the day of the meeting.
This was much too late, late in the afternoon. I
scrambled through the newspapers and found those two
weeks editions, it had to be published twice, and with-
in the text of one news article, this was mentioned,
which was sufficient. But it was not mentioned or
did not show up as a legal the second time at all which
threw the whole thing out of whack. It was not inten-
tional and was never meant to be, it was a mistake,
the mail did not carry through and I don't know what
happened to it. That is all I have to say on the mat-
ter. I have since been sending these by certified mail
so that I will have a receipt."
"Let me ask you, at one point you said that you handed
it to the news reporter and next you are talking about
sending it through the mail. Did you send it with the
news reporter that time
"I think that was one I mailed. I'm positive it was
one I mailed. Timing has a lot to do with it too. I
used to try to get them in the immediate Wednesday
issue but I couldn't always do that and be assured they
would be in there and dated correctly. I pre -date
those things when they are typed. That's why the one
you got, if it had been published correctly, it would
have been no problem. The dates tell the paper when
to publish it. They just did not get it."
"And you knew by, what time was that
"It was late in the day in the day of the meeting."
I then informed the Mayor that afternoon.
"You should have informed the president before the meet
ing ever started."
Councilwoman Harris stated if the Highline Times knew
they were to have received a notice and did not receive
it then why did the Highline Times in two separate
issues with headlines state that the Tukwila Council
violated the Open Meeting Act. The Highline Times
found us guilty which is strange because the press and
businessmen were there and the meeting had been announ-
ced previously. What made the Highline Times any
judge and jury of whether or not the Council was guilty
of anything that is up to the courts.
Mayor Todd stated he had been informed prior to the
special meeting and that he had another meeting that
evening downtown and did arrive at the special meeting
while it was in progress. At that time he did notify
the Council that the meeting had not been published
and had asked Councilman Traynor if Minutes were being
taken. There was considerable rebuttal to the Mayor's
position at the time but he left the meeting immediate-
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Septebmer 3, 1974
Page 15
AUDIENCE COMMENTS Cont.
Councilman Saul Councilman Saul asked what is the Motion on the floor.
Shirlee Kinney
Councilwoman Harris
Mayor Todd
Shirlee Kinney
Mayor Todd
Councilwoman Harris
Mayor Todd
Councilwoman Harris
ADJOURNMENT
12:05 A.M.
ATTEST:
4s�
ly because he realized it was in violation of the Open
Meeting Act.
Shirlee Kinney stated it was that she put all of this
discussion in writing.
Councilwoman Harris stated she wanted an inquiry on
this and that she wanted it in writing.
Mayor Todd stated it would be in writing in the verba-
tim transcript of the Minutes.
Discussion followed on the Motion on which Councilwoman
Davis had withdrawn a second and Councilwoman Harris
had asked to have the Motion sustained. Mayor Todd
asked to have the Motion repeated.
City Clerk Shirlee Kinney stated it was that she should
provide a written answer to Mrs. Harris' request which
she would provide with verbatim transcript of those
Minutes. *VOTE TAKEN AND APPEARED TO CARRY.*
Councilwoman Harris Councilwoman Harris stated no, that she called for an
investigation. The Motion as stated is not acceptable.
Mayor Todd asked Councilwoman Harris if she had receiv-
ed an answer from the last several investigations for
which she had called for and if so, would she provide
a copy for the City.
Councilwoman Harris stated she had asked for an inquiry
on why this legal publication was not published. This
involves the Highline Times, it involves administration.
Somebody has got the answer somewhere and she called
for an inquiry and a written answer on it.
Mayor Todd asked Councilwoman Harris who she would like
to have appointed to investigate this matter. He
stated as far as he knew, all the information is avail-
able and on the record.
Councilwoman Harris stated it is the responsibility of
administration to see to it that those legal publica-
tions are transmitted to the publishing company. If it
isn't done, then administration answers the inquiry.
*NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THE MOTION. THE PREVIOUS
VOTE ON THE MOTION HAD BEEN PROTESTED BY COUNCILWOMAN
HARRIS.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY STERLING, THAT THE MEETING
ADJOURN. CARRIED.
Frank Todc
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Shirlee A. Kinney, Ci €y Cler