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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1974-11-11 Committee of the Whole MinutesNovember 11, 197. 7:30 P.M. CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL OF COUNCIL MEMBERS DISCUSSION LID 20 Traffic Signal Funding on S -Line Bridge TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL Tukwila City Hall COMMITME OF THE WHOLE MEETING Council Chambers M I N U T E S Council President Traynor called 'the Committee of the Whole Meeting to order. GARDNER, STERLING, TRAYNOR, DAVIS, HARRIS, SAUL, JOHANSON. Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, directed letter to Council President Traynor requesting the Council to consider payment of professional services for LID 20, and since LID 19 will be coming up at a later date, consider resolution for it at same time. He requested that this item be on the agenda of the next Council Meeting. Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, presented letter requesting that the matter of the transfer of funds to get the work started be put on the agenda for next Council Meeting. Council President Traynor stated that if the money is available, the matter will be on the agenda for the next Council Meeting. Leasing of City Hall Site Council President Traynor stated he thought the matter of leasing a City Hall site should be discussed with the budget. He felt that if the money is available to lease a building, it should be set aside each year until the money is available to build, rather than lease a building. Councilwoman Davis agreed that it would be appropriate to discuss it at the time the budget is considered and agreed with Council President Traynor that it would be better to appropriate money each year from the budget for a City Hall rather than lease one. Ed Bauch from the audience stated that he had asked several questions previously about the current expenses and what, if any, money would be saved by leasing a city hall site. Council President Traynor stated he would present the informa- tion on current costs with present buildings. Councilman Johanson stated there would be the expense of shifting opera- tions to the new site, plus there would be the increased cost of keeping up some of the buildings that are in present use. Councilwoman Harris stated she was against leasing a city hall site since the basic rent would be approximately $90,000 per year and some of the others questions regarding expense of taxes, maintenance, what we are paying in present quarters, and what expenses would be paid in leased quarters are unknown at this time. If it could be shown there would be considerably reduced costs, it would be better to lease, but it appears it would be better to put the money in the building fund for our own building. Councilman Sterling concurred that it would be better to build than rent. Suggested revision of Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, stated he felt there sewer structure charges should be a revision on the sewer structure charge that has been on an individual basis. He suggested repealing the ordinance and returning back to established charges. Council- man Johanson stated that the past individual charge system could probably be used in establishing a set rate plan. Shorelines Master Program Councilwoman Harris proposed the question as to whether or not the Council wants to adopt this ordinance before reconsidering the Master Program. Councilman Sterling stated that the master plan is good and is enforceable. Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, stated that time is critical and Council Members might ask Gary Kucinski, Planning Director, about the time element. He stated it might be better to adopt it as is, and then make changes at a later date. Councilman Johanson stated he would like to see it adopted and then make necessary changes as suggested by Steve Hall. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOM MEETING NOVEMBER 11, 1974 PAGE 2 Preliminary Budget Meeting Discussions with Department Heads Council President Traynor suggested that the Council might have some Committee Meetings with Department Heads to discuss the preliminary budget, and then present the outcome to the Council as a whole. This would save time and discussion. Councilman Saul stated he felt the Committee of the Whole should meet with the Police Department. He stated if the Committee meets with the Police Department, they should listen but not commit the Council to any agreements. Councilwoman Harris suggested that the Committees meet with Department Heads and then make recommendations to Council about matters and information they have discussed. Councilman Sterling felt it was nice for each committee member to be acquainted with the Department Heads of their committee. Councilwoman Harris requested that Norma Booher, Recording Secretary for the City Council, be present at the committee meetings to record minutes and circulate the information to other Council members, as time is needed to study minutes of the various committees. Hubert Crawley, Fire Chief, stated that any cuts in their budget would be unfavorable, but it would be good to know what they will have to work with, and reasons for any cuts in their budget. Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, stated he would be out of town on November 20, 21, and 22 so would not be available for any meetings on those dates. Council President Traynor stated he would like the chairmen or chairwomen of the various committees to set the time and place of their meetings with Department Heads to consider the preliminary budget, so others can attend if they wish to. The Public Safety Committee Chairwoman Davis slated she would like to have her committee meetings on the first and last Tuesday of each month at 7:30 P.M. The Community Affairs Chairwoman Harris would like to have her meetings on the first and third Wednesdays at 5:30 p.m. The Public Works Committee Chairman Gardner would like to have his meetings the first and third Thursdays at 5:00 P.M. The Finance and Personnel Committee Chairman Johanson would like to have his meetings on the first Tuesday of the month at 5:30 p.m. Councilman Sterling stated he would be willing to meet any time that is convenient, but he did not feel the committee members should have to take time off from work if they cannot get to the committee meeting on time due to unexpected delays on the job. Councilwoman Harris stated she felt that 24 hours notice to the other members of the committee would be acceptable, and then have the change of date or time posted would be fulfilling the requirement of the resolution. Councilman Gardner stated there was not a requirement to advertise a 3 Council Member Committee Meeting. Councilwoman Davis stated the posting would make it possible for a fourth Council Member to be present, if they desired. Council President Traynor requested the preliminary budget Committee Meeting schedules and Councilman Gardner stated he would like the Public Works Committee to meet with Steve Hall, Director of Public Works on November 19, 1974 at 5:00 P.M. at the Annex. Councilwoman Davis stated she would like to have her meeting on the Public Safety Committee on Tuesday, November 12, at 7:30 P.M. at the Fire Station. Council President Traynor suggested that if there are any problems as to whom should attend the meetings to consider the prelim- inary budget, that the meeting notice be posted on the bulletin board so those concerned may be aware of the meeting. Councilwoman Harris requested her Community Affairs Committee be scheduled for November 20, 1974 at 7:00 P.M. Councilwoman Davis requested a meeting with the Police Department on November 21, 1974 at 7:30 P.M. at the Fire Department (Training Room). TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOT,F, MEETING NOVEMBER 11, 1974 PAGE 3 Gambling Ordinance RECESS 8:25 P.M. 8:35 P.M. Gambling Ordinance (Continued) Council Procedures Ordinance Foster Golf Course Ad Hoc Committee President Traynor stated the City needs an ordinance regarding gambling so they may start collecting revenue on it, or gambling should be prohibited. Mrs. Eleanor McLester from the audience stated the City needs a gambling ordinance. The recent election returns from the Tukwila area appears to be favorable to gambling. Councilwoman Davis stated that it was not the apartment dwellers, but rather single resident precincts that favored the gambling bill. Phyllis Pesicka from the audience stated she worked at the polls in Precinct 10 and of the 390 registered voters, 300 were apartment dwellers. Ed Bauch from audience stated that when the returns by precinct (Statewide) are available it will reflect the areas favoring gambling. Councilwoman Harris stated she had unofficial results of recent election at her home and asked to be excused to get it. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE MEETING RECESS. CARRIED. Council President Traynor called the meeting back to order with all Council Members present as previously listed. Councilman Johanson suggested that the Cities of Renton and Kent be contacted and a copy of their gambling ordinance be obtained and studied. He further stated he believed there was a breakdown by the City of Renton on the tax they were receiving from the gambling ordinance. Janelle Baldwin from the audience stated she was against the gambling ordinance for the City of Tukwila due to personal experience in her family. She stated that if gambling were legal, young people and those not strong enough to resist would lose their pay checks and their wives and children would suffer. Eleanor McLester from the audience stated that the Renton Chronicle dated November 6 stated that Renton had received $6,000 in taxes from gambling. Ella Woyvodich stated the race track is very close and those who want to gamble can go there, also the shops of Southcenter lure those who want to buy, and homes suffer. Ed Bauch from the audience stated he had voted against gambling in recent election, but in view of the way Tukwila had voted in favor of gambling, he felt that if gambling is allowed, the City should be getting the taxes from it. Council President Traynor stated that the Finance Committee will look into the above mentioned ordinances and present a recommendation. Councilman Johanson stated he would like to have a clear understanding as to what is going to be accomplished in these work meetings. Council President Traynor replied that this was the time that each Council Member could talk about anything they would like to discuss. Councilman Johanson wanted to know how closely the meetings would stick to an agenda, and he thought it would be a good opportunity to get some good discussions. He continued that he thought the Council should not be bound by an agenda, or have a formal agenda, but be able to bring up any subject that happened to come in that day and needed to be discussed. He felt it was a good idea to have a tentative agenda, so the public will know some of the things to be discussed. Councilwoman Davis agreed with this thought. Council President Traynor agreed that this was the purpose of the Work Meeting. Councilman Sterling requested that the recommendation of Foster Golf Course Ad Hoc Committee be put on the agenda for the next Council Meeting. Council President Traynor stated it would be on the agenda. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOT,F, MEETING NOVEMBER 11, 1974 PAGE 4 Use of City Van as means of transpor— tation for public during Metro strike Duwamish Allentown Annexation q02.0 Council President Traynor read a memorandum from Mayor Todd suggesting that the city van be operated as a bus for use of the public until Metro busses are operating. Councilman Sterling stated he thoughtthe City Attorney's opinion should be sought with respect to insurance, legality, liability, etc. Councilwoman Davis expressed the feeling that it would be going against the striking union to operate the van as a bus. From the audience, Mrs. McLester stated she thought it would be a good idea for the city van to operate and keep track of how many use the bus and what hours of the day it is used. Councilman Saul stated that during a recent bus strike in Seattle, the city ran a free bus during the strike for shoppers, and if Southcenter would like to do the same they could. Janelle Baldwin from audience stated that she rarely used the bus as schedules are too sketchy. Mr. Robinson from audience stated that Mrs. Holloway likes to make surveys and reports and she may already have the information that is desired. Council President Traynor stated that he would try and get an opinion on the matter. Councilwoman Harris stated that the city van is used as a recreation van for the Parks Department and she wondered to what extent it would interfere with its purpose for that Department if it was used as a bus. Councilman Saul stated that the City of Tukwila was not the only city inconvenienced by the strike. Mrs. Baldwin from the audience suggested that the bus be used for the public when it is not being used by the Park Department and just run on certain days, or maybe on an emergency basis. Councilwoman Davis stated she was not in favor of the large size busses that were being used by Metro. They are too large and too expensive to operate and they cause extra repair work to the streets. Small busses should be requested. Mrs. Lutes from the audience stated she had been told by a bus driver that small busses are on order but labor strikes and material shortages are holding up production. Ed Bauch from the audience asked what action Council would take if, after the Boundary Review Board Hearings,they really chop up the annexation area. He stated Mayor Todd did not think they would do that. If they make a decision on November 14, would the City be able to act on it in any way? Councilman Sterling stated that after the Public Hearing Meeting he had asked and was told nothing further could be done about it, if it is chopped up it will go back to a vote of the people who were on the petitions. Councilwoman Davis stated that she and Councilwoman Harris talked to Mr. Martin, Secretary, at the hearing if it would be hazardous to have this little neck of land, which is mostly industry, chopped off. It is suggested that we draw up a letter stating our views, stating that they include the area as a package or we will reject it if it is not given as a package. Councilman Sterling thought it advisable for the Mayor to present the city's view on this and present it to the Hearings Board. Councilman Saul stated that originally 3,000 people asked to be annexed and they are the ones who should be considered. Councilwoman Davis stated that more fire and police force would be needed. Fire Chief Crawley stated that the part that might be chopped off was mostly vacant land that would likely be used for an industrial area and it might be a good thing. It was his opinion that the City should not ask for all or else nothing. Councilwoman Davis made a motion, seconded by Councilman Sterling, that the City Council have a Special Meetinz on Wednesday, November 13, 1974 at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of discussing the annexation. Motion was carried to have public notices posted and news media notified. Coucilwoman Harris felt sure the decision of the Review Board would not be rendered by November 14 as they can take more time if they wish. Councilwoman Davis stated the the matter could be discussed at the meeting on November 13, and if enough facts and information could be obtained she felt sure the Review Board would take the matter into consideration. From the audience Mrs. McLester asked how one might obtain a list of signatures on the petition for annexation. She was told it was on file at the King County Courthouse. Highline water district intertie Water district 75 intertie Water district #75 intertie TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING NOVEMBER 11, 1974 PAGE 5 Water District#75 Intertie Services ADJOURNMENT 9:45 P.M. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE COUNCIL MEETING ADJOURN. CARRIED. Norte Booher, Recording Secretary 962 Mario Segale presented a brochure to Council members showing proposed water distribution. He stated EDA would fulfill the requirements for financing. He requested to have it placed on the agenda for the next Council Meeting. Councilwoman Harris asked what the time frame on it would be and Mr. Segale said it was Number 7 on their schedule, but two had been dropped so it would be about Number 5 now. He stated it would add 8,000 feet of pipe. Fire Chief Crawley stated that this improvement would be important for Tukwila, since they must now rely on Seattle, and this tie-in would help a great deal. Councilman Sterling asked about pressure and he was told with this tie-in they would always have pressure. Councilman Sterling recommended that the Public Works Committee study the matter, and make a recommendation as soon as possible.