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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-01-13 Committee of the Whole MinutesJanuary 13, 1975 TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL 7 :30 P.M. CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL OF COUNCIL MEMBERS DISCUSSION Richard Hunt, Recreation Supervisor /a 4 Tukwila City Hall Council Chambers COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES Council President Traynor called the Committee of the Whole Meeting to order at 7:35 P.M. Gardner, Traynor, Davis, Harris, Saul, Johanson Council President Traynor stated that Richard Hunt, Recreation Director, had some questions he would like to ask the City Council. Richard Hunt, Recreation Supervisor, stated that he would like some clarification as to his job responsibilities. He stated that when he was hired a little over a year ago it was his understanding that he was to set up recreation programs for the city, including as many varieties of activities as he could see his way to organize; basically senior citizen, adult, and family programs and this sort of thing. He was also under the impression that he was to make recommendations to the Park Board and to the City Council as to improvements in the park system in the way of playground equipment, tennis courts, mini park, and municipal park. He added that he had made proposals for the park. He said he had wondered the last month or so whether or not he should be involved in making these recommendations. He stated that in making the budget he made several suggestions in order to improve the park system. Since that time money has been taken out of the recreation budget and r in the park maintenance budget. He said his question is where his duties start and where do they stop. He asked if he should continue with his plans to improve the parks and make suggestions. He again stated that he understood he was to do these things and he did not know whether or not he was to do them. He stated he felt the Parks and Recreation program go together and some way or someone should be assigned to spear- head these assignments. Council President Traynor stated that what Richard Hunt was asking is whether the City wants to use him beyond just setting up recreation programs. Richard Hunt stated that is his question basically in a nut shell. He stated that he received information about a number of programs and there is quite a bit of money available at this time through grants for park and recreation improvement. He added that he is in a position to know of them and he does not know how long the money will be available. He stated he would like to know where his job starts and where it stops. Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, stated that what Richard Hunt says is true. He said he, himself, did not have the expertise to do all of the things relating to park development and when Richard Hunt was hired it was planned to use him in improving and planning new facilities. He added that once the construction was completed it was then his responsibility to keep it up as park maintenance. Council President Traynor asked what the wishes were of the City Council. Councilman Johanson stated it was his understanding that the Recreation Director was to supervise park recreation and not construction. He understood his duties were to create recreation programs and it does not seem that it is within his realm to project development of the parks unless it had to do with a particular recreation program. He stated that he did not think he had to design a bench for some- one to sit on or a drinking fountain. He added it was his understanding he was hired to develop recreation programs, get them started, and get as many people as possible involved. Councilwoman Davis stated that his job will be clarified when the City Council gets to the job descriptions. She stated she felt the Council should study them and this is probably one of the high priorities on that list. She stated that he has been guided without a job description; he was hired as a park rec- reation director with the idea of being park manager. She added that the Council can evaluate this when the job descriptions are written up. Council President Traynor stated that there is grant money available and the question appears do we want Richard Hunt to pursue it and look into the possible grants. Council- woman Harris stated that if a grant is given to a recreation TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING January 13, 1975 Page 2 Richard Hunt, program they could be related and City Council could give him Recreation Supervisor authority to pursue grants if they apply to recreation. Contd. She added that when the City Council authorized this position in the department she interpreted that he would be limited to recreation supervision. She stated that perhaps as time goes on they will get more educated and find that more things are involved. She said she thought Councilwoman Davis' suggestion was good that when the job descriptions are made up it can be evaluated. Council President Traynor stated that it appeared that Richard Hunt was being asked to do things that are beyond the scope of recreation director. He asked if the Council wants Mr. Hunt to pursue the duties that he has done in the past. Councilwoman Davis stated that Mr. Hunt does go to meetings where grants are discussed and talked about. She stated she thought he should bring back the information and the Council should give it thought. She felt it would take a little bit of time to work it out right now without having it go to a committee, and this goes right back to the job descrip- tions. Councilman Saul asked if the position is considered a department head or not. Council President Traynor stated that as far as recreation director is concerned it would be equiva- lent to a department head. Councilman Saul asked if the Council did not feel that a department head has the right to go ahead and make application for grants when they know about them. Councilman Johanson stated that he felt they needed someone who is knowledgeable in municipal government and in the pro- cedures of requesting the funds which seems to be the biggest job. He stated it seemed rather piece meal to throw the job in the lap of someone it seems they should have some exper- tise in the field. Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, stated that as far as the park is concerned new construction goes through the Park Board and then through staff for bids, etc. He added that when a City is developing a recreation program facility it goes hand in hand with development and the require- ments for it go through many departments. Steve Hall continued that everyone had to wear quite a few hats. Councilman Johanson stated that he went along with the thoughts of Steve Hall, but it seems to him that Richard Hunt was hired with the idea that he would use the facilities that they had. He added that it seemed too much to ask him to develop and plan a park. Councilman Sterling arrived at the Committee of the Whole Meeting at 7:57 P.M. Councilwoman Harris stated that the Park Board is also given authority to make recommendation to the City Council on specific programs and things concerning the parks and this is another of the things the Council is trying to straighten out. She stated she thought the staff works with the Park Board and City Council and this is a line of communication that needs to be established so we do not get into a tug of war or uncoordin- ated efforts so whatever we do we also have to bear in mind that the Parks Board is also involved in making recommendations to the City Council. Councilman Saul said it was not clear to him what the problem is, that it appears when Richard Hunt does this extra work it puts him in another category. Council President Traynor stated that it was his thought that the City Council says they do not want a park director, just a recreation supervisor to set up recreation programs. Since he has been here for the past year or so he has done both; he has developed parks at the direction of the Park Board and looked at the various grants at someone's request. He now wants to know what the City Council wants: if they want just a recreation program developed that is what he will do. Coun- cilman Saul stated that it seems that there are grants to be looked into and he does nct see any problem. He said he thought he was hired for this intent but the problem cannot be solved until the job description is clarified. He stated that he was in favor if grant money is available that he is the one who would know about it and should take action on it. Ed Bauch, TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETINC January 13, 1975 Page 3 Richard Hunt, from audience, stated the City Council is expecting the Park Recreation Supervisor Board to give direction as far as the City Parks and Recreation Contd. is concerned and he thought the City Council should go to the Park Board and ask them what they think Mr. Hunt's job is, since they set the policy and it may be that they expect him to do this work. You should, therefore, go there and ask them what they expect him to do. Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, stated that he had written a letter stating what he felt his job should be. He stated that he had told him to go ahead and get grants after he is through with his job as recreation director, and after priorities have been set. Councilman Saul stated that someone has to do the plans for bike trails, bridle trails, and hiking trails that are coming through. Councilwoman Davis stated she thought that this would be in the hands of the Park Board, and she would like to see it in the hands of the Park Board. She stated that she thought they could work on the trails and .such of it could be volunteer work. Richard Hunt stated that he had been to some of the meetings regarding the trails. He stated that the original plan was to go past Tukwila but through the Park Board he had made recommendation that they not by -pass Tukwila and they are anticipating going through Tukwila at the present. He added that there are several grants available that the City is losing out on. These are things that have been available for the past year or so and the City is missing out on some of them. He stated that he had made these recommendations in the budget but he was not asked about them. He added that he sent out a questionnaire asking what the people wanted and 95% of the replies that he received back asked if the City could get a recreation facility building here in the city, a senior citizen center, a gymnasium, an arts and craft room, so this is what we were proceeding on. It was his impression that this was what he was supposed to do, that he was to go along with getting a recreation program started. He stated that he felt they had done a fair job. He added that they have more programs going within the past year than King County in 40 50 years since they have had the program. He stated that the city has the best program, and these are things that he would like to see, but unless the city gets going they are not going to accomplish it. He stated that he meets with the Community Affairs Committee. Mr. Hunt stated that he had mentioned to them that his job responsibilities and his salary do not match and he felt that the work he is doing should require some more remuneration. He stated that he would like a job description as quickly as possible. Councilman Johanson suggested that Mr. Hunt turn in a job description as quickly as he can. Council President Traynor stated that this is prob- ably the first step and the quickest. As soon as the job description is available it can be turned over to the Personnel Committee. Councilman Sterling asked if the trail system is the Green River Trail system. Mr. Hunt stated that it is a 100 mile trail called the Bicentennial Bike Trail. It is planned to tie in with the Green River Bike trail. He added that he did not know if the Bicentennial Bike Trail would go through Tukwila or not. He stated he felt they could get it if it is approached at the right time, but he felt they should be in there with applications. Councilman Saul stated that maybe there is a lack of communication between Mr. Hunt and the committee he works with. Mr. Hunt stated that he had not had any meetings on this with the committee or the City Council. Councilwoman Harris stated that somewhere the duties of the recreation director went astray. She stated she felt he is being given direction to do things that are beyond what he is required to do that the grant application thing he has been asked to do she felt was not what he was hired to do. She stated she had nothing against Mr. Hunt personally but she stated she could see more and more staff if he is going to do these additional duties, someone will have to be hired to do what he was originally hired to do in recreation. Council- woman Davis stated she did not see too much of a problem. She stated she thought he should go on as he has been doing, with TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING January 13, 1975 Page 4 Richard Hunt, an eye to the priorities of the demand on his time. Steve Recreation Supervisor Hall stated that he has done the work in the order of its Contd. priority. He agreed that there would not be too much of a problem until the job description has been submitted. Council President Traynor said he could see a problem as to his being asked to do a job he is not being paid to do. The solution appears to be that he will carry on as he has but he stated he felt if he is going to be asked to do these additional things he is not being paid to do he should be paid for what he is doing. Councilwoman Harris asked who told Mr. Hunt to do all of the extra things he is doing. Council President Traynor stated that is why he has come to the City Council. Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, stated that if they wanted to point a finger it should be at him. He stated that he had told him what to do according to priority. He added that it is a difficult position; either to hire someone who will go ahead and is interested in the community and is think- ing of its tendency to grow. He stated that the City Council gave him a budget to work with and he has to work with it. He added that if anyone had put Richard Hunt in his position it is him, but Mr. Hunt had done a good job and had done everything according to priority. He added that recreation does spawn recreational needs whether it is bleachers, benches, fountains, etc. Mrs. Nancy Moore, from audience, stated that it looked like Richard Hunt is doing more than he is being paid to do. It appears that he takes pride in his job to go ahead do things and get them done. She continued that maybe the city should be getting more of the grants that are available, She said he is trying to get a job done but he can only go so far. Council President Traynor stated that it is his hope that Richard Hunt will go ahead under the direction of Steve Hall until his job description is available. Councilman Johanson stated that he concurs with that idea, that the City Council can only set the policy they cannot administer it. Council President Traynor said the Council is now aware of the problem and will move on it. Councilwoman Harris stated that Mrs. Moore from the audience had suggested that when this recreation program was created it was set up for leisure time of the people of the city and would include sports, basketball, soft ball, dances, etc. She added that she felt when a team goes outside of the confines of the city it is rather semi- professional and she wondered if the city is getting beyond the family type leisure time concept of the citizen. Council President Traynor stated that he goes to the Junior Olympic games and it is interesting and it develops the recreation program of the city and it involves other cities. He wondered if this was semi- professional. Councilwoman Harris stated that if individuals try out for a team and if an individual is not a good player then they are not allowed to piay and it is damaging to the person. She stated she could not see the park backing teams selected in this way. She had thought it was going to be a free time activity within the city. Richard Hunt agreed that everyone should play and they do, that they do not compete for places on the teams. He stated that everyone plays and they go out and play in the leagues, but everyone gets to play that is the philosophy of recreation. Council President Traynor stated that Richard Hunt should submit his job descrip- tion just as soon as possible to the committee. Duwamish-Allent own annexation /6 V7 Councilwoman Harris stated that the matter of the Duwamish- Allentown annexation proposal was discussed in the committee and they talked it to death, winding up the meeting about 11:30 or 12 midnight. She stated it was the consensus of the committee that the matter should be brought back to the Committee of the Whole meeting for decision as to what direction they want to go on this matter. She stated the committee had felt that the Committee of the Whole should have their input considered on this. She said that it was suggested that the resolution should not be worded as it is and, secondly, there are legal questions to be asked. She stated that the committee had suggested that the Council not pass the resolution as it is TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING January 13, 1975 Page 5 Duwamish- Allentown annexation Contd. /0 V? worded at the next Council meeting. She said that since none of the Council had seen a resolution of acceptance before they are not certain that the language in the resolution is entirely the correct language to use. The petition has requested a community council be established and an election of officers to that community council. That election has to be called for by resolution and it should have been called for in the reso- lution in July. It was not accomplished at all. We cannot have an election unless it is called for. She added that if the Council determines that it does want to go in the direction of accepting it then the petition should be recertified before accepting it. The petition should be sent back down to the Department of Records and Elections to have it certified that there are enough signatures on the petition in accordance with the number of people who voted from that area. If there are not enough valid signatures on the petition then it goes back to the original petitioners and they have 30 days to get the required number of signatures. If they are not able to accomplish that then the whole thing drops, and the Council does not take any action. But on the other hand if the Council does decide they do not desire to accept these bound- aries as they are modified then the language for resolution should say specifically what needs to be drawn up. That is basically what the results of the committee meeting were, Councilwoman Harris stated. Council President Traynor stated that it is a lot of leg work to go to if the Council is going to say "no" to the area that has asked to be annexed. Council- woman Harris stated that she agrees if the Council is going to reject it they should do so. Councilman Saul stated that he has always said that Dillon of the Councty Elections should verify whether the poeple living in that area are the ones who voted for this. He stated that he wanted verification that the people who signed the petition are the people who want to be annexed. Councilman Gardner asked if it was suggested that they go over the list and check the addresses and see if the people live in that area. Council President Traynor stated that he thought what was desired was to find out if those people are still in that area. Councilwoman Davis stated that if the Council goes ahead with the resolution some corrections need to be made. She stated that in passing this resolution July 1 it was drawn up wrong to protect those citizens who asked to come into Tukwila. This resolution was drawn up wrong. The citizens from that area asked for a community municipal corporation to be formed, and this resolu- tion does not say anything of that sort so we should back up and do things correctly. Councilwoman Harris stated that the City Council never did have a chance to pass anything on this, they have not studied the impact on the City with these modified boundaries. The whole picture has changed now. She stated that she did not want to shut the door on this area for annexation. She added she would like to leave the door open and take a look at it with the different boundaries and also invite the people to take a look at it. Mr. Robinson, audience, stated that he understood the people would have to wait for 10 years to re- quest annexation if it is rejected at this time. Council President Traynor stated that he disagreed with that statement as this is the second petition they have had in the past three years. He further stated that he did not think it is a spur of the moment thing. He added that he would like to see the city annex with the proposed boundaries rather than the entire area that was originally proposed. He stated that he felt the area could be served better if it is smaller. Council- woman Harris stated that she felt Council President Traynor had been with this problem longer than most but the City Council has not sat in on any planning sessions or met with the people at all. She stated they had not had any direct contact with the people in the community at all. She added this petition with these boundaries has not been before the City Council. She stated that she felt the Council needed to take a new look at this annexation with the modified boundaries and leave the door open. Mae Harris, City Treasurer, asked how long TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING January 13, 1975 Page 6 Duwamish Allentown annexation Contd. Sammamish Commercial Co. v. City of Tukwila and M. A. Segale, King Co. Superior Court /0 does the city have to accept or reject this. Councilwoman Harris stated that this a gray area and it seems that the time limit is not clearly defined. Mae Harris, Treasurer, asked if it would be feasible to ask the department heads to make a study on this and if this would be an assistance. Council President Traynor asked if they do the leg work on this is the Council going to vote against it. Councilwoman Davis stated that if the study is made it might help the Council make up their minds as it seems there is no time limit. Councilman Johanson stated that it seems strange they do not want to spend money for a study but rather take in the area when it might become a burden it might need refurbishing such as roads, drains and other expenses. Council President Traynor stated they will be paying taxes and will be entitled to repairs the same as everyone else. Council- man Johanson stated that within the city they do not have the streets in shape and they would be acquiring more to maintain. Councilman Johanson stated that it depends on what price the city would have to pay. Council President Traynor stated he hated to see this plum turned down for someone else to pick up. Councilman Sterling stated that he did not see anything wrong in resubmitting this to the King County Dept. of Elections for recertification. Councilwoman Harris stated that she did agree with Council President Traynor and if they are not going to accept this area they should take the bull by the horn and invite the area to try again in a year. She stated she felt they did not have enough time to give it a good study and she did not think it was fair to drag it out and out. She felt they should do something about it. She suggested tht they do it over again in a way that is acceptable to everyone. Councilwoman Harris stated that if they start it over it should be done right. Councilwoman Davis stated that they might get in trouble if they accepted the resolution presented the other night in Council meeting. Councilman Sterling stated that he thought any resolu- tion they passed should be rewritten to reflect proper wording. He stated they would have to weigh whether it was good or bad for the City. He said he felt that in the future they may wish they had annexed that area. Councilwoman Harris stated that when Council members speak from the Council table they speak for the constituents who elected them. She said she had received some phone calls from people in the Duwamish- Allentown area asking the city not to pass the annexation. Some of them said they had a change of minds. She wanted to express the feelings of those who had called. Council President Traynor stated he would make a request to the City Clerk to recertify the petion. He said he would also confer with the City Clerk on subject of rewriting the resolution to include similar words that set forth in the heading of the petition which provide for the municipal County Corporation Council. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY STERLING, THAT THE CITY CTFRK RECERTIFY THE SIGNATURES ON THE PETITION AND REWRITii THE RESOLUTION TO INCLUDE SIMILAR WORDS THAT SET FORTH IN THE HEADING OF THE PETITION WHICH PROVIDE FOR THE MUNICIPAL COUNTY CORPORATION COUNCIL. CARRIED, WITH DAVIS AND HARRIS VOTING NO. Councilman Sterling stated that he questioned the first resolution was legal. Councilwoman Davis stated the the B.R.B. knew this, they had received a letter from Councilwoman Harris and she stated she was surprised that they did not answer some of the questions she had put to them. Steve Hall, Director of Public Works, referred to City Attorney Parker's letter dated January 7, 1975 to the Mayor and City Council regarding suit against City of Tukwila and M. A. Segale on storm drainage. Mr. Hall explained that the King County Dept. of Hydraulics was insi.sti_ig upon completion TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOTF MEETING January 13, 1975 Page 7 Sammamish Commercial Co. v. City of Tukwila and M. A. Segale, King Co. Superior Court Contd. RECESS 8:55 9:05 Sammamish Commercial Co. v. City of Tukwila and M. A. Segale, King Co. Superior Court Contd. Housing Community Development Act Park Budget oso of an intertie been the North and South Canyon drainage systems as a condition for approval by King County of the plan to use the 66 inch pressure line to solve the storm drain- age problem which is the basis for the pending lawsuit. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT THE MEETING RECESS. CARRIED. Council President Traynor called the meeting back to order with all Council members present as previously listed. Steve Hall, Public Works Director, stated that by referring to the letter explaining the pending lawsuit it was orally agreed in a meeting of those concerned that a proposed solution would be the formation of a L.I.D. extending from Interstate Highway 5 on the west to the Green River on the east and from Highway 405 on the north to the city limits on the south, with the entire area to be assessed on a square footage basis to pay the complete cost of the North and South Canyons drainage system intertie, construction of a holding pond and installation of a pumping system to utilize the existing 66 inch line. Steve Hall said he would like to present this to the Council with the proposal for formation of the LID to be initiated by resolution which will require an amendment to the Comprehensive Drainage Plan. Councilman Sterling asked why it should be done at this time. Steve Hall explained because of the pending law suit which is scheduled for trial on March 19, 1975. He further explained that because of the law suit and time element it would have to be acted on at once. Steve Hall stated that the approach that had been outlined appeared to be agreeable and would prevent court action, which could cost $400,000 to $500,000. Councilwoman Harris stated that it seemed like a good way to solve the problem. Steve Hall agreed that it might save the city money. He stated tip timliness is important and he would recommend to have a resolution for the LID on Monday and then have a resolution for an engineer, and he would recommend Harstad because they have worked on this, they had a lot of time invested on this and time would not have to be rein- vested. Councilman Saul stated that if the City Council approves and if Harstad has dnne some work on this then they should get two proposals on this. Steve Hall stated that all of the parties had agreed to the plan on an informal basis. Council- woman Harris stated that we have the March 19 date to consider but she cannot conceive of a judge not being sympathetic to someone if it is shown that the matter is being acted on. Steve Hall stated that in the meeting he attended that it appeared the plaintiff would back off if they saw action being taken. Chris Crumbaugh of Segale Business Park stated that the City is a party of the lawsuit along with Segale, of Segale Business Park, but the trial will be delayed if they can see that action is being taken. Council President Traynor stated he thought they should go ahead and get the thing going. Steve Hall suggested that if there are too many squacks it could just be dropped. He stated that if the Council did not want the LID it can be thrown out. Councilwoman Harris asked about an engineer putting in his time, and who would pay for it. Steve Hall stated that it would be put in the resolution. Steve Hall said he would try and have some information for the Public Works Committee meeting on Thursday. Councilwoman Harris stated that she had contacted Dell Moss who had agreed to come to the Agenda Meeting on Thursday to talk to the Council about the Housing Community Development Act. She stated she felt the Council might be able to make a decision on the matter after they had heard from him. Council President Traynor stated that he had no objections and he felt the informa- tion would be useful to the Council. Councilwoman Harris stated that very late in 1973 the city allocated funds to park maintenance to buy top soil and develop the park.. Because it was so late in the year it did not get started and the $2800 expired from their current fund and in 1975 $3600 was allocated for maintenance of the shrubs. The matter was tossed around and the Council waited to see how much of the $3600 was used as spring was the time for most of it to TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOT,F MEETING January 13, 1975 Page 8 Park budget Contd. Annual leave benefits for employees Water and sewer rates Federal funding through CETA Council president /DS/ be used. The conclusion was to bring it to the Council of the Whole meeting tonight as to the Council members viewpoint on this particular subject. Councilman Sterling stated that he knew it was in the budget for 1974 and towards the end of the year so the items could not be bought, so we will be asked to add more money and it should be put back in there. Council President Traynor asked where the money would come from. Councilwoman Davis stated that the Council would have to research to see where it would come from. Mae Harris, Treasurer, stated that there is a good chance that surplus would come out of cash on hand. She stated they are putting the Park Department into the General Fund. She stated she did not know what the surplus would be. Councilman Sterling stated that it was his understanding that any funds left over would go into land acqui- sition. Councilwoman Harris stated that she felt the Council did not have to make an immediate decision on this and it should be looked at another time. Councilman Johanson referred to letter dated January 7, 1975 from City Clerk Shirlee Kinney regarding employee benefits. He stated that he would like to have this item put on the agenda for the next Council meeting. Councilman Johanson referred to letter dated January 7, 1975 from Foster and Marshall, Inc. to Mayor and City Council members regarding the brief analysis of the overall rate structure for water and sewer service in the City of Tukwila and their recommendation for increase. Steve Hall stated he thought that the press should be given the information that water and sewer rates will be discussed at the Council meeting so there will be a lot of interest in the matter. Councilwoman Harris referred to memorandum received from City Clerk Shirlee Kinney dated January 9, 1975 to Department Heads telling them of funds that would be available for personnel through CETA and asking what personnel they could use. She further stated that at one of the December meetings they were given just 30 minutes to decide on a similar matter. She stated that it was her impression when they made up the budget that the Council did not want the PEP or CETA programs. She said she felt it put people to work at the expense of the tax payers. Councilman Saul stated that there might be some personnel re- quests that would be legitimate. He agreed that the Council went through hours and hours of setting salaries. and jobs. He said he wondered why they should expect the government to hire for the city. He stated he did not oppose short term employees but if employees are needed they should be hired. Council President stated that it seems like the city never hires short term employees, it seems like they stay. He added that these give -away programs are great up to a point, and that in his opinion that is it. Steve Hall stated he submitted his estimate of his needs but he could do without any of them. Councilman Saul stated he would just as soon let it die by the wayside. Councilwoman Harris stated that she thought the department heads should not have all of this work put on them of making up the requests when the answer might be "no." Council President Traynor said it is likely the request was made due to the urgency of the due date. Councilwoman Harris stated that A, the Agenda meeting on Jan. 2, 1975 the subject of Council President was brought up. Council President Traynor stated that he had read the R.C.W. and there was no reason to put it on the agenda for the next Council meet- ing. Councilwoman Harris stated that when the Council drew up the Procedures they did so in revised language. It indicated that on even numbered years the Mayor pro tem is elected and there was some confusion on the subject. Council President Traynor stated that the Council Procedures agreed with the R.C.W. so he did not think it necessary to bring the matter up before the Council. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING January 13, 1975 Page 9 Gambling ordinance ADJOURNMENT 10 :25 P.M. /OSA Councilman Johanson stated he would like to use the format of the gambling ordinance for the City of Renton and establish the rate to be paid by the card tables. He stated that his committee had a meeting during the past week and he thought about $5,000 and 10% of the gross would be a good figure. He asked the Council members to think about it until Monday night and it would be on the agenda for the Council meeting. Council President Traynor stated that he would have it put in form for Monday night. Councilman Saul stated that he did not want to get into a debate about gambling in this meeting, but he feels what the committee came up with is fair. He further stated that he felt the city should get as much as the traffic will bear. He added that if the city is going to have gambling they might as well get as much as they can from it. Mrs. Altmeyer, audience, stated that she would like to concur with Councilman Saul and that she felt the city should get all of the tax they can from gambling. MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOT,F MEETING ADJOURN. CARRIED. Norm'_Booher, Recording Secretary