HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-02-14 Committee of the Whole MinutesFebruary 14, 1977 CITY OF TUKWILA
7:30 P.M. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
M I N U T E S
ROLL CALL OF TRAYNOR, HILL, SAUL, MS. PESICKA, VAN DUSEN.
COUNCIL MEMBERS
7"5 Ci ty Hall
Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER Council President Hill called the Committee of the Whole Meeting to
order.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY MS. PESICKA, THAT THE JANUARY 31, 1977
MINUTES OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING BE APPROVED AS
PUBLISHED. CARRIED.
DISCUSSION MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY MS. PESICKA, THAT THE ORDER OF DISCUSSION
ON THE AGENDA BE CHANGED SO ITEMS 8 AND 9 MIGHT BE DISCUSSED FIRST.
CARRIED.
Frank Todd Council President Hill asked Steve Hall, Director of Public Works,
Sewer Connection if the sewer extension was in the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Hall said
it was. Councilman Van Dusen asked if anyone had inspected the
property. Council President Hill said he and Councilman Van Dusen
had done so and it looked pretty flat to him. Kjell Stoknes, Director
of Community Development, said the map shows there are some areas
in the property that are potentially unstable when developed. Council
President Hill said before there are any buildings on the property
there would have to be a soils report and tests for stability. Mr.
Stoknes agreed that would be required. Councilman Traynor said he
would like to ask the applicant if he planned to build homes on the
property. Mr. Frank Todd, applicant, said he might build homes or
townhouses. Council President Hill asked if there was a rezone request
with the County would the City be allowed input. Mr. Stoknes said
the City would be notified of the rezone request and they could submit
recommendations. Councilman Van Dusen said the Comprehensive Plan
established guidelines for the City to follow and plan for future
development of the City. Councilman Pesicka asked if someone comes in
and asks for sewer connection is it reasonable to turn it down because
of a future zone request that might be made. Councilman Traynor said
Mr. Todd might request a rezone stating he had just invested thousands
of dollars in the sewer and now he wanted to build apartments on the
property. He said the City is not obligated to sewer any property
outside the City limits. Joanne Davis, audience, asked what the
present zoning is on the property. Mr. Stoknes said it is R -1. Mayor
Bauch said the way you control sewers is the way you control land use.
Once a sewer is put in it is ready for development. It takes the land
out of farming and commits the use of the land. Councilman Van Dusen
said if septics are put in on the property then in a few years the
City will come along and say sewers have to be put in. Council
President Hill asked if Tukwila wants to sewer the area. He said he
hated to see septic tanks put in when we are going to clean up the
City. Mr. Stoknes said the point is does the Council want to use City
services for property to become part of the City. You are extending
the use of the City sewer to a property outside of the City. Do you
want to use that as encouragement for annexation? You have to make
policy decisions on this type of question. Do you want to make deci-
sions right now when you are close to having a plan you want to adopt.
Council President Hill said it did not work too well when we went out-
side the City and formed an L.I.D. and then the annexation was turned
down.
MOVED BY SAUL, THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER THIS REQUEST AFTER THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS COMPLETED. MOTION FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Mr. Todd said in view of the fact that any request seemed to meet with
disapproval he wished to withdraw his request. He stated he would like
a letter of rejection. Council President Hill said he would send a
letter and attach the Minutes of the Meeting.
Review of Golf Kjell Stoknes, Director of Community Development, said the bond issue
Course Proposals on the Foster Golf Course passed. He said the staff had mailed out
Foster Golf proposals for an analysis of Foster Golf Course to four firms and had
Course received reports from the firms. He said it turned out Mithun and
Associates had submitted the low bid. He said each of the firms was
made aware that the City wanted the cost breakdown on how they arrived
at the cost. He said the recommendation they made is to give the
building to Mithun and Associates and the landscaping to Chaffee
Zumwalt, although Mithun would prefer not to have it broken up. He saic
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DISCUSSION Contd.
Review of Golf
Course Proposals
Foster Golf
Course Contd.
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by separating the building and landscaping $173 would be saved. Mr.
Bill Aliment, part owner of Foster Golf Course, said he did not believe
the City should spend $8,000 for an analysis of Foster Golf Course.
He said the Golf Course is operating now and we could supply information
that is needed. He said they could lock it up one night and the City
could take over the next day. He said he was afraid the City would
end up spending $8,000 and get nothing but a ground plan to put on the
wall. He said there is just maintenance required and now and again
things need repair and upkeep. He said these are not monumental expen-
ses. He said he knew the golf course and has offered his advice. He
said he thought Mithun has the best proposal for the money but he did
not think it necessary to spend that amount of money. Councilman
Pesicka said she went on a tour of the golf course some time ago and
it seemed there were areas that needed to be worked on. Mr. Bill
Aliment said there are areas that require some work, they are trying
to get it done. Mr. Aliment introduced some of the Board Members of
the Golf Club. Mayor Bauch said there is no one in the City who has
operated a golf course. He said when you do not know what you are
purchasing you get recommendations from someone other than the seller.
He said the City is trying to consider all angles, we want to know what
we will have to do to make it an operating course. Mr. Stoknes said
this is the reason staff mailed out the proposals and asked for costs
by the item, then if we did not want one item it could be taken off.
Councilman Van Dusen said the acquisition of the golf course was sold
to the public as a recreation facility. He asked if it was going to be
used as bike trails, long distance running, etc. Mr. Bill Aliment
said the City would have to be careful about liabilities if the golf
course is used for bike trails, or runners, as a traveling golf ball is
dangerous. Council President Hill said it might be possible for the
18 holes to be realined and 5 acres for recreation be gained in that
way. In changing the parking a possible 2 acres might be gained for a
community center for activites for senior citizens and others. Mr.
Ben Aliment, part owner of Foster Golf Course, said there are several
possibilities for additional recreation. He said the clubhouse has
about the same footage as the proposed City Hall. That would make a
community center and a small clubhouse could be built. In that way
5 to 10 acres could be gained.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE GOLF COURSE PROPOSALS
FROM CONSULTANTS FOR ANALYSIS OF FOSTER GOLF COURSE BE ON THE AGENDA
OF THE FEBRUARY 22, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
Mr. Stoknes said in considering the analysis of the Foster Golf Course
consideration had not been given to other recreation at this time.
He said he felt it is a business the City is buying and it has to be
related to golf. He said he thought the other functions suggested
should not interfere with the golf course. Mayor Bauch said the
river banks could and should be developed for other things. Mr.
Stoknes said his recommendation would be one step at a time get it
going as a golf course and then see what is available. Mr. Bill Smith,
audience, said the golf club dues are due the first of April and the
members would like to know who is going to run the establishment. He
said the men's group have a suggestion they would like to see the
pros who are running it now take over and run it after it changes
hands. Council President Hill said the City has never had a golf
course and he did not know if the City would have to go out for a bid
or not. Mr. Stoknes said there are some municipal courses who have a
pro manager who gets a salary and percentage of the greens fee, some
get percentage of greens fee only. He said it was not known if the
restaurant is profitable enough to have it run separately. *CARRIED.
RECESS MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY MS. PESICKA, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE
8:40 P.M. -8:55 P.M. WHOLE MEETING RECESS FOR 15 MINUTES. CARRIED.
The meeting was called back to order by Council President Hill with
Council Members present as previously listed.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT ITEM 10 OF THE AGENDA BE
CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME. CARRIED.
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February 14, 1977
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DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Ord.
Adoption of OMC
Prop. Ord.
Approp. Funds
amending Ord.
#1002
Prop. Ord.
Establ. new land
use appl. fee
71/7
Waiver from Res. #489,
Boeing Engineers' Kjell Stoknes, Director of Community Development, pointed out the area
Property involved on a wall map. He stated Mr. Thorpe of R. W. Thorpe
Associates, in his letter of February 1, 1977 had requested a waiver
to allow R -4 zoning on a 15 acre parcel located south of the Tukwila
Elementary School between South 151st and South 153rd Streets,
commonly referred to as the Boeing Engineers' property. The modified
proposal is for multiple family development of 304 356 units.
Varied densities are proposed: apartments (30 units /acre) on the south
6 -62 acres; townhouse /condominiums (16 20 units /acre) on the central
6 -62 acres; and duplex and triplex (8 10 units /acre) on the north
2 -22 acres. Mr. Stoknes said Staff has recommended denying the waiver
request because the proposed rezone is inconsistent with the emerging
Comprehensive Plan in that densities within this site will have a
significant effect on future surrounding densities. He said the
proposed action would necessitate a major alteration not only in policy
but density gradation of residential development as well, the funda-
mental concept of residential growth envisioned by the emerging plan.
He said the Environmental Impact Statement for the new Comprehensive
Plan has been distributed for comment and a Public Hearing before the
Planning Commission is scheduled for March 24, 1977. Adoption of the
Plan may not be far off. Mr. Bob Thorpe of R. W. Thorpe Associates
presented drawings and maps of the proposed development, showing the
varied densitites they were proposing. Councilman Traynor asked the
acreage where Canyon Estates were built. Mr. Stoknes said it was
about 10 acres and contained 186 units with a density of about 25 units
per acre, La Vista has 36 units per acre, Graydon Smith has about 23
units per acre.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT THE WAIVER REQUEST BE
ON THE AGENDA OF THE FEBRUARY 22, 1977 REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL.
CARRIED.
Council President Hill said he had conveyed the request of the Council
to the City Attorney and he had added an amendment. Councilman Traynor
said he was not satisfied with the wording of Section 4 and 6, it did
not specifically say when the Finance Director would begin, what his
duties would be, or the fact that the office of treasurer was being
phased out, what the duties of treasurer would be after the Finance
Director was hired and until the elected term of office was over.
He said the amendment still did not say what they wanted it to say.
Council President Hill said the information he had given the City
Attorney was that the Treasurer was to take care of investments after
the Finance Director was hired in June and the Finance Director would
take care of the rest of the finances of the City. He said the Council
had discussed the fact that you cannot have two bosses, the Finance
Director would have a conflict until the term of office was over.
Councilman Van Dusen said it was his opinion that the Finance Director
would have control of the two departments the City Clerk and the
Treasurer; one will be for expenditures and one for revenues. The
Finance Director will not just take over the duties of the Treasurer
he will take over all finance of the City. Councilman Traynor said he
would like the Council President to put the amendment down in writing
and let the City Attorney put it into legal terms.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT PUTS
THE AMENDMENT IN THE LANGUAGE HE SEES FIT THEN SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO BE PUT INTO LEGAL LANGUAGE. CARRIED.
Council President Hill said as soon as it is returned by the City
Attorney it will be brought back to the Council for consideration.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
APPROPRIATING FUNDS AND AMENDING BUDGET ORDINANCE #1002 BE ON THE AGENDI
OF THE FEBRUARY 22, 1977 REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL. CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY MS. PESICKA, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
ESTABLISHING NEW LAND USE APPLICATION FEES BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE
FEBRUARY 22, 1977 REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL. CARRIED.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
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DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Res.
Authorizing Mayor
to renew agreement
with RAYS
Prop. Res.
Authorizing Mayor
to execute Deferred
Compensation Plan
Prop. Res. Author.
Mayor to sign labor
agreement between
City Tukwila
Police Guild
Vacant Council
Position
Prop. Contract
w /Seattle office of
cable communication
Animal Control
Services Interlocal
Agreement
Special Meeting
Prop. Re. Author.
Mayor to enter a
Dev. Agreement
w /Monty R. Cooke
Prop. Res. Author.
Mayor to enter Deve.
Agreement w /John
C. Radovich
Councilman Van Dusen said he had talked to quite a few people about
services from RAYS and he had some good reports and some not so good.
He said there are other services available through the County.
Councilman Traynor asked if the breakdown report was all service to
Tukwila people. Mayor Bauch said an audit was run last June and every
case number had a Tukwila address there were four or five on the
report for that month. Councilman Van Dusen said the Highline Youth
Service Bureau is proved by the County. Mayor Bauch said the services
provided by them are short term and there is no follow -up. Councilman
Van Dusen said he thought they should look at the services that are
available and see what services are offered. He said he thought they
should have a representative from RAYS and one from Highline come to
the Council and explain their services. Anne Altmayer, audience,
asked how much was spent for RAYS last year. Council President Hill
said it had cost about $4,600 for part of the year, and $6,000 has
been budgeted for 1977. Council Presidnet Hill asked Councilman
Van Dusen to make arrangements for representatives from RAYS and High
line Youth Services to attend the Committee of the Whole Meeting on
February 28, 1977 so they can present the services offered by each.
Councilman Traynor said he was afraid all this would do is cost the
City money. Councilman Van Dusen said it cannot cost the City money
if the City Council does not let it. Council President Hill said right
now we give 100% medical; before that 75% and before that 50% and before
that we did not have it. He said right now it is employee paid only
but at the time of the next negotiation it is going to be matching
funds from the City.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A DEFERRED COMPENSATION PLAN FOR THE
EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF TUKWILA BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE FEBRUARY 22,
1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED, WITH TRAYNOR VOTING NO.
Council President Hill said the proposed resolution authorizing the
Mayor to sign the labor agreement between the City and the Tukwila
Police Guild would be on the agenda of the February 22, 1977 Regular
Council Meeting.
Council President Hill said he had received four letters of application
for the vacant Council position. The letters were from L. C. Bohrer,
John E. Richards, Anne Altmayer, and Leo J. Sowinski. He said the
Council would interview each of the applicants on February 21, 1977
starting at 7:00 p.m.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF SEATTLE
TO PROVIDE CERTAIN SERVICES AS LISTED IN SECTION I OF THE CONTRACT
CONCERNING COMMUNITY ANTENNA TELEVISION BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE
FEBRUARY 22, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED.
Councilman Saul asked how the law was going to be enforced. Mayor
Bauch stated by calling the animal control. They do not know if the
animals are running loose if they are not called.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT BE ON
THE AGENDA OF THE FEBRUARY 22, 1977 REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL.
CARRIED.
Mayor Bauch announced there would be a special meeting of the City
Council on February 16, 1977 to consider plans for the new City Hall.
Council President Hill said this proposed resolution would be on the
agenda of the February 28, 1977 Committee of the Whole Meeting.
Council President Hill said this proposed resolution would be on the
agenda of the February 28, 1977 Committee of the Whole Meeting.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
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Frank Kreider
Electric Fence
ADJOURNMENT
10:35 P.M.
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Mr. Frank Kreider, audience, said he wanted to put up an electric
fence and he wondered if he would need a permit, or if there was
an ordinance that governs fences. Mayor Bauch said a letter had
been received from Mr. Kreider and it had been referred to the City
Attorney for reply.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MEETING ADJOURN. CARRIED.
Norma Booher, Recording Secretary