HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-05-11 Committee of the Whole MinutesMay 11, 1977
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL OF
COUNCIL MEMBERS
DISCUSSION
Peter A. Breysse,
Assoc. Prof.,
Univ. of Wash.
Proposed Noise
Survey
General Goals
of Comprehensive
Land Use Plan
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
M I N U T E S
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City Hall
Council Chambers
Council President Hill called the Tukwila City Council Committee of
the Whole Meeting to order.
TRAYNOR, HILL, SAUL, VAN DUSEN, BOHRER.
Councilman Van Dusen introduced Peter A. Breysse, Associate Professor
from University of Washington, stating he and his students would be
doing the noise study in the City of Tukwila. He said he would give
the Council a general rundown of what the City should be looking for
as far as the Comprehensive Plan is concerned. He said he would
answer any questions the Council or audience wished to ask. He said
he had been involved in noise studies for a number of years. He
made a noise study for the City of Seattle which they used in a recent
noise ordinance. He said the laws are restrictive for control of
noise from vehicles and aircraft which are the most common sources
of noise. He said Sea -Tac contributes to the noise in this area.
He showed a chart of a study that was made in the bedroom of a home
in the Sea -Tac area. The noise peaked at 92 dbs. He showed a chart
indicating lost time at a school near the airport. He showed a chart
indicating noise levels in apartment houses when the streets were
moved closer to the buildings. He stated the only way noise can be
controlled is at the planning stage. Construction should not be
allowed near the heavily travelled roads. It is the intensity of
noise that is annoying. The FAA has taken it upon themselves to set
the standards for aircraft. The only way it can be controlled is by
planning. Councilman Bohrer asked Mr. Breysse what his experience
has been with railroads. He said he had not done too many experiments
with railroads, but there is no doubt if you live close to a railroad
it can be a serious problem, and it will depend upon the frequency
of the trains. He said to control noise problems you can set
distance barriers, foliage is not too effective as a barrier, a
15 -20 foot wall is quite effective, but it is better to set your
overall plans in the planning stage. Mr. Breysse said he had a map
of the City and he would divide the City into various areas to make
the noise survey. It will take noise levels during the day and night.
He said homes built near the freeways and heavily travelled roads
should not have large windows that face the source of the noise.
Double insulated windows also help. In the survey he said he would
give some recommendations to control noise. There may be some areas
in which the Council will want a more extensive survey conducted.
Fred Satterstrom asked what is happening at the national level to
reduce noise. Mr. Breysse said they would like to control the noise
that is easiest to control. They have standards for vehicles, however
the vehicles in a community are not the main problem. It is the fact
that there are a lot of them and they are going by constantly. It is
the same way with aircraft. They are trying to change their landing
patterns. Councilman Bohrer asked when the Council might see the
results of Mr. Breysse's survey. He said he hoped to have the field
work done during the spring quarter and get it written up during
the summer quarter.
Councilman Pesicka arrived at the meeting at 7:57 P.M.
Council President Hill said the Council would first discuss the
General and Element Goals of the Comprehensive Land Use Plan. Kjell
Stoknes, Director of OCD, said the Staff came to the Council in
November 1975 and presented a flow chart and some goals that they
felt would be a good guide to follow. The City Council adopted
Resolution #405 adopting the general goals and element goals.
Councilman Van Dusen said he liked the statement to "attain a balance
in the land use pattern of the community." Councilman Traynor said
some of the property in the City was zoned incorrectly. Council
President Hill referred to the Environmental Base Map of the Tukwila
Planning Area. Kjell Stoknes, Director of OCD, said the four envir-
onmental factors shown were: steep slopes, unstable slopes, major
wooded areas, and surface waters. Discussion continued and it was
determined that there should be more green showing wooded areas and
surface waters.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
May 11, 1977
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DISCUSSION Contd.
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General Goals MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT STAFF LOOK AT THE MAP AND
of Comprehensive ADD THE COLOR OF GREEN TO THE AREAS AS NEEDED. CARRIED.
Land Use Plan
Contd. Kjell Stoknes said he suggested the Council adopt the final environ-
mental reference map by reference as the maps may not be entirely
accurate. Frank Todd, audience, said he thought the City of Tukwila
did not possess information that established the slopes as unstable.
Mr. Satterstrom said the Planning Department had used overlays for
the map and for this reason they were not entirely accurate. He said
there are some known unstable areas in the green. Mr. Charles Baker,
Tukwila Industrial Council, said it was his thought that the maps are
not intended to resolve any specific issues. Mr. Wilson, audience,
said people are going to look at the maps and not look at the rest
of the plan. He said it would be easy to have a legend with the map
explaining the inaccuracy. Councilman Pesicka said a person could
look at the legend and it says you have to look at the overlay.
Councilman Bohrer said in looking at the purpose of the plan, it says
the essential characteristics of the Plan are that it is comprehensive,
general, and long range. "Comprehensive" means that the plan
encompasses all geographical parts of the community and all functional
elements like land use and transportation, for instance which
bear on physical development. "General" means that the Plan summarizes
policies and proposals and does not indicate specific locations or
detailed regulations. "Long range" means that the Plan looks beyond
the foreground of pressing current issues to the perspective of prob-
lems and possibilities many years hence.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY MRS. PESICKA, THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED
TO ADD THAT THIS ENVIRONMENTAL BASE MAP IS GENERAL IN NATURE AND IS
NOT SITE SPECIFIC. CARRIED.
Discussion continued and Kjell Stoknes said with reference to
compatibility on Page 4 -4 he thought it should be qualified a little.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION BE
ACCEPTED ON PAGE 4 -11, POLICY 3, AND THE WORD "COMPATIBLE" BE
INSERTED SO THE SENTENCE READS: "AN AREA DESIGNATED AS RETAIL SHOULD
ALSO ALLOW COMPATIBLE OFFICE USES, AN AREA DESIGNATED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL
SHOULD ALSO ALLOW COMPATIBLE RETAIL AND OFFICE USES, AND AN AREA
DESIGNATED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL SHOULD ALSO ALLOW COMPATIBLE LIGHT
INDUSTRIAL, RETAIL, AND OFFICE USES." CARRIED.
Councilman Van Dusen said he felt there should be a Policy 8 added
to Section 1 on Page 3 -8.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT POLICY 8 BE ADDED TO
SECTION 1, PAGE 3 -8 AND IT READ: "ENCOURAGE THE ADOPTION OF REGULA-
TIONS TO LIMIT NOISE AT THE SOURCE AND IF NECESSARY PASS ORDINANCE
IMPLEMENTING LAWS," AND THE NARRATIVE STATE: "ALTHOUGH NOISE BARRIERS
MAY HAVE SOME EFFECT ON NOISE NUISANCES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS
THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEASURE BY FAR IS TO LIMIT NOISES AT THEIR SOURCE.
LEGISLATION ON THIS CAN BE EFFECTED AT THE NATIONAL, STATE, AND LOCAL
LEVELS." CARRIED.
Councilman Saul said he would like to refer to Page 5 -10 and he
wondered if it was alright to fly a helicopter and land it anywhere
in the City. Mr. Stoknes said we do not have any legislation on
helicopters. Mr. Satterstrom said helicopters fly low and if the
activity increases it may become a problem.
Councilman Saul said in referring to Page 5 -10 A that he noted side-
walks were being made to accommodate wheel chairs. Mr. Stoknes said
that is required on all projects with grants. Council President Hill
asked if there has been anything done on sidewalks in Southcenter
and Andover Park. There are some sections of sidewalks in, but not
in all places. Councilman Bohrer said at the Boardwalk Restaurant you
have to walk across landscaping or in the street to get there.
Councilman Saul said people are walking in the middle of the street
from the Doubletree to Jafco. Councilman Traynor said the City should
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DISCUSSION Contd.
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General Goals require the developers to put in sidewalks. Mr. Stoknes said this
of Comprehensive was encouraged in Policy 6 on Page 5 -5.
Land Use Plan
Contd. MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY MRS. PESICKA, THAT COUNCIL ADOPT POLICY 3,
ON PAGE 5 -14 AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. CARRIED.
RECESS MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY MRS. PESICKA, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE
9:05 P.M. -9:20 P.M. WHOLE RECESS FOR FIFTEEN MINUTES. CARRIED.
The Meeting was called back to order by Council President Hill with all
Council Members present as previously listed.
Council President Hill said the Council would now consider the area
east of Interurban Avenue from north City limits to south City limits
to east City limits. Fred Satterstrom said it was the intent of
Staff to have one industrial classification of industrial that
encourages the industrial park -like atmosphere. Council President Hill
said Andover Park has been a big help in putting forth this image.
Discussion continued as to the results of making one industrial area
designated C -M, light industrial, or light manufacturing. Councilman
Traynor asked if it could all be C -M. Mr. Satterstrom said the first
step would be to eliminate light and heavy manufacturing. Council
President Hill suggested it be just industrial. Mr. Satterstrom said
C -M allows M -1 uses except it has landscaping. Councilman Bohrer
said he thought the first step would be on the land use map legend
to eliminate light and heavy industrial and call it industrial park.
He said he felt after driving through that area the previous evening
that it is beautiful,
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY MRS. PESICKA, THAT THE INDUSTRIAL SECTION
OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE MAP LEGEND BE INCORPORATED INTO ONE
CLASSIFICATION WHICH SHALL BE LABELED INDUSTRIAL PARK.
Mayor Bauch said because of the advertised schedule of the area for
discussion for this meeting, only that area should be discussed.
There are some who might want to be present if they thought the
whole map was being discussed. Councilman Traynor said his motion
covered the area that is being discussed according to the agenda for
the meeting. Councilman Bohrer said he would consider the legend
for this map to be part of the policy because it reflects the policies
set. Councilman Traynor said his motion was for the area being
reviewed.
*CARRIED.
Council President Hill said there is an area to be discussed that is
designated Special Development Considerations which is the Codiga
Farm. Councilman Bohrer said as long as the owner has designated
that area open space he should be encouraged in that designation.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, TO DESIGNATE THE OPEN SPACE
AREA (CODIGA FARM) AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND HAVE SPECIAL
DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATION ATTACHED TO IT.
Council President Hill said if the Council designates this area as low
density residential and if they take it out of the open space and want
to build on it then they have to have it rezoned. Councilman Traynor
said they were not changing the zoning, just the comprehensive plan.
Fred Satterstrom said if the yellow showed up on the map it would
indicate to Staff to come to Council with a proposal for single family
residential zoning at the time the zoning was being reconsidered.
However, if it was not changed from its present zoning the Council
would still be able to go to other zoning. Councilman Bohrer said one
of the land use designations that was considered by the Planning
Commission was one called agricultural that they decided not to adopt.
It might offer some flexibility when the Council decides they can
consider all of these legends on the land use map. There are a
couple of areas in the planning area that are currently farmed actively
and he did not know whether or not they were in the soil bank. He
said he would be in favor of supporting those people by an agricultural
designation instead of single family residential if they are currently
intending to farm.
*MOTION FAILED, WITH ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTING NO.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
May 11, 1977
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DISCUSSION Contd.
General Goals Council President Hill said the Council is trying to come up with a
of Comprehensive comprehensive plan of what this land could be used for 20 years from
Land Use Plan now. What it is being used for today is controlled by the zoning.
Contd. There is a lot of property that is not being used for the specific
purpose of its zoning. If this area is zoned agricultural it would
project our intention that it stay agricultural for the next 20 years.
He said he did not think that was what they wanted to do.
MOVED BY MRS. PESICKA, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT COUNCIL CONCUR WITH THE
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, TAKING INDUSTRIAL OUT OF THE TWO
SECTIONS AND HAVING JUST ONE INDUSTRIAL PARK DESIGNATION.
MOTION FAILED, FIVE TO ONE, WITH PESICKA VOTING YES.
Council President Hill said consideration would be given to the
legend on the Comprehensive Land Use Map. He asked if everyone was
satisfied with low density residential? With medium density resi-
dential, high density residential, commercial, light and heavy
industrial would become industrial park designation, public facilities?
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE DESCRIPTION OF PARKS AND
OPEN SPACE UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE MAP LEGEND HAVE THE
PERIOD CHANGED TO A COMMA AND FOLLOWING ADDED: "AND AGRICULTURAL
LANDS IN ACTIVE USE."
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, TO AMEND THE MOTION AND
DELETE THE WORDS "IN ACTIVE USE." CARRIED.
*CARRIED, AS AMENDED.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE AREA NORTH OF I -5, NORTH
AND EAST OF INTERURBAN, AND BANDED BY THE CITY LIMITS BE AS DESIGNATED
AS INDUSTRIAL PARK, EXCEPT CODIGA FARM WHICH SHALL BE AGRICULTURAL.
CARRIED.
Councilman Van Dusen left the meeting at 10:30 P.M.
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MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE AREA FROM 144TH STREET
SOUTH BETWEEN THE RIVER AND INTERURBAN BE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
CARRIED.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT THE PROPERTY OWNED BY CITY
LIGHT AND PUGET POWER ALONG INTERURBAN BE DESIGNATED AS OPEN SPACE.*
Fred Satterstrom made the suggestion that instead of a green designa-
tion why not blue as public facilities?
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY MRS. PESICKA, TO AMEND THE MOTION AND
DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY OWNED BY CITY LIGHT AND PUGET POWER ALONG
INTERURBAN AS PUBLIC FACILITIES RATHER THAN PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
CARRIED.
*CARRIED, AS AMENDED.
Council President Hill said the Council would now discuss from SR 405
to south City limits. Council President Hill read a letter dated
May 11, 1977 from Ms. Helen B. Nelson stating she would like to request
the area designated on the proposed comprehensive land use map
colored in red which she had circled in ink be designated light
industry as presently zoned, rather than commercial as proposed.
Fred Satterstrom said the Planning Commission had felt this land was
developing into offices. He said he saw nothing wrong with the
commercial designation. The industrial designation would give
Ms. Nelson more use of the property.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
May 11, 1977
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DISCUSSION Contd.
General Goals
of Comp. Land
Use Plan Contd.
ADJOURNMENT
10:55 P.M.
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MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY MRS. PESICKA, THAT COUNCIL
CONCUR WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGNATION AS COMMERCIAL
ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. CARRIED.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY MRS. PESICKA, THAT ALL OF THE AREA
BETWEEN THE TWO RAILROAD TRACKS BE DECLARED PARKS AND OPEN SPACE
AND BE COLORED GREEN ON THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE MAP. CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT INTERURBAN RIGHT -OF -WAY
BE DESIGNATED AS PUBLIC FACILITIES BETWEEN 180TH AND SR 405.
CARRIED.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY MRS. PESICKA, THAT THE COMMITTEE
OF THE WHOLE MEETING ADJOURN. CARRIED.
Norma Booher, Recording Secretary