HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-05-26 Special MinutesMay 26, 1987
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER Mayor Van Dusen called the Special Meeting of the Tukwila City
Council to order at 7:50 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Mayor Van Dusen led the audience and the Councilmembers in the
Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL OF
COUNCIL MEMBERS
OFFICIALS IN
ATTENDANCE
MINUTES
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL City Hall
SPECIAL MEETING Council Chambers
MABEL J. HARRIS, JOE H. DUFFIE, EDGAR D. BAUCH, WENDY A. MORGAN
(COUNCIL PRESIDENT), CHARLES E. SIMPSON, MARILYN G. STOKNES, JAMES J.
MCKENNA.
Councilmember McKenna excused himself from the Council Chambers.
Maxine Anderson (City Clerk), Rick Beeler (Planning Director),
Moira Bradshaw (Assistant Planner), Jim Haney (City Attorney).
PUBLIC HEARING (THIS IS NOT A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING)
Valley View Estates, Jim Haney, City Attorney, reported on the absence of a court
Review Approval reporter. Attorney for the applicant, Joel Haggard, agreed to the
of alternative bldg. absence of a court reporter if the recorded tapes of the meeting
design. were made available to him if so requested.
Mayor Van Dusen stated the issue before the Council is the stipulation
in Condition 3 in the Findings and Conclusions of the City Council.
This will be approach basically by first having the staff open,
allowing the applican make their application, then we will ask for
support for opposition for the proposal and have time for rebuttal
at the end. We will consider a time limit on this.
Jim Haney, city attorney, said we are meeting tonight with respect
to Condition 3 of the Findings and Conclusions which stipulated
that certain building heights were to be reduced, but if the applicant
wished to propose alternative to height reductions or building
configuration which would achieve a desirable transition, the City
Council will retain jurisdiction for a period of six weeks in order
to allow the applicant to present that so you are proceeding pursuant
to your retained jurisdiction under those Findings and Conclusions
and decision which you have already adopted. It is understood the
applicant has submitted some alternatives and there is a recommendation
from staff regarding them. There will likely be a presentation by
some citizens concerning their concerns about the process and the
application in the site plan. As we have done throughout the proceed-
ings we should continue under oath. It is appropriate that the oath
be administered again, even though it was done some time ago.
Everyone will then realize they are under oath.
City Attorney Haney administered the oath to everyone in the room
who might testify.
Dick Goe, 5112 South 163rd Place, stated he wished to ask a
procedural question before staff makes their presentation. In
reading on page 3, Conclusion, we are dealing it says in Item #1,
Condition 3 approved by the City Council clearly stipulates the
number of building stories. The two proposed options exceed those
numbers in exchange for increased building set backs, and it goes on.
It seems that...1.I don't find the wording here...nor do I have the
set of Findings and Conclusions that were adopted by the City
Council. The reason he is speaking at this point is that the Findings
and Conclusions that were adopted by the Council were handed out by
the City after they were adopted. We did not then have a chance to
review and offer input at that time and it occurs that in the motion
that was made by the Council it was the intent to reduce the height
of the buildings to allow the applicant an opportunity to retain
the option for the 108 units which they had originally requested
by finding some space in the other part of their property. In three,
Decision, on page 18, under paragraph number three, after (b) there
is an unnumbered paragraph that says, "If the project proponent
desires to propose an alternative to these height reductions or an
alternative configuration of buildings on the site which would incorp-
orate these height reductions, etc." I am trying to bring to your
recollection the motion that was made at the Council table did not
include anything about alternative height reductions. It was very
specific about height reductions, that is to say a basement and one
story. My recollection of the explanation of that is that it would
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May 26, 1987
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PUBLIC HEARING Contd.
Valley View Estates,
Review Approval
of alternative bldg.
design contd.
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be like a daylight basement and one story. The question is since
the Council did not originally move for an alternative to reduction
in heights how they could adopt a conclusion or make a decision that
included that alternative and how we can have before us tonight
this proposal based not on what the motion was but on something
that came up later. I would like you to look into your motion
and review as to the intent behind the motion and in so doing
I think you have no alternative other than reject this proposal
before we even get started tonight. Thank you.
Mayor Van Dusen said the basic question seems to be is this part
of the argument of the proposal or it is something we need to
address first.
Jim Haney, City Attorney, said he understood what Mr. Goe is saying
and he felt he could clarify it and bring to the Council's
recollection the process. As you recall, when the Council deliberated
regarding this Mr. Bauch made some specific suggestions regarding
height reductions on the buildings. The Council reached a consensus
and the motion was to direct the City Attorney to draft Findings
and Conclusions in accord with the Council's discussion. He said
he went ahead and drafted Findings and Conclusions which he
brought before the City Council in written form. Conclusion 3
is verbatim what he brought before the City Council. At the time
it was brought before the City Council he indicated to the Council
that he had made one particular change. As the Council knows, your
Findings and Conclusions in a matter are not final until you
finally adopt them in writing. At any time up until they are
adopted, you may reconsider and redebate, etc. As he understood
the original motion it was to bring back Findings and Conclusions
that reflected the Council discussion which he attempted to do.
The reason that he mentioned to the Council, and he was specific
about Condition 3 and the language that is there, was because it
was his understanding that there was a possibility from a practical
standpoint, a literal reading of Mr. Bauch's conditions in the
height reduction might place some of the building roof lines
into the dirt, given the layout of the property. There were some
smiles on the Council when he mentioned that before. He indicated
to the Council they might want to consider leaving themselves some
flexibility in considering alternatives. The matter was then
discussed. He did not recall whether the Council specifically
discussed this particular condition but Mr. Bauch had a number of
proposed revisions to the Findings and Conclusions which the
Council agreed with and ultimately they were adopted, leaving
Condition 3 intact. That is how that matter was adopted to his
recollection, that the Council was aware of the way it was worded
and adopted it in that form. You have properly before you the
alternatives proposed by the applicant, not saying that you have to
accept or that you should reject or whatever those alternatives but
you are properly here to consider them.
Mayor Van Dusen asked Mr. Goe if there was anything else. Mr. Goe
said there was not.
Rick Beeler, Planning Director, said we should establish how we
are going to handle Exhibits. We had approximately 78 or 79
Exhibits entered into the record. The question he has for the
city attorney is whether or not we should continue that sequence or
start anew?
Mr. Haney said it did not make a lot of difference but he thought
for purposes of keeping the record as clear as possible it might
be worthwhile to continue with the same numbers so if this matter
ever got further along the line we would not be referring to
duplicate Exhibits.
Council President Morgan said she would like a point of clarification
from the City Attorney. She said she did not understand the City's
continuing role in this. It seems the Council in its Findings and
Conclusions provided guidance for the applicant to come forward
with an opportunity to show some alternative ways of handling those
Findings and Conclusions and it was her understanding that it was
now between the City Council and the applicant.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 26, 1987
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PUBLIC HEARING Contd.
Valley View Estates,
Review Approval
of alternative bldg.
design contd.
Jim Haney, City Attorney, said the staff is here obviously to assist
the Council in making decisions and evaluating alternatives. The
staff has come forward with the Staff Report saying this is,
looking at these options, what we believe is the correct and
proper findings and conclusions regarding them. It is up to you
whether you wish to call for your staff's assistance in this
matter, but the staff has gone ahead and prepared the report
anticipating that you would want their input and their evaluation
of these alternatives.
Mayor Van Dusen said basically if you read the RCW, staff has
an obligation to report.
Council President Morgan said the Council is sitting as the
BAR now, is that correct? City Attorney Haney said that was
correct. Council President Morgan said it seems what has generated
this evening is new and different information, is that correct?
Mr. Haney, City Attorney, said it is information specifically
requested by the Council in its Findings, Conclusions and
Decision, saying if the applicant wanted to present something
different to meet those height reduction requirements as an
alternative to that, the Council would listen to it otherwise
that was what was going to have to be done.
Council President Morgan said then what the Council is doing
in a sense constitues a new hearing.
Mr. Haney said that is essentially correct.
Council President Morgan said then the role of the City changes
to what it has been in the past hearings. Is that correct?
Mr. Haney said that the staff in the past has perceived its role
as defending the BAR's decision. At this point, since the Council
has decided that the BAR is in error, the staff sees its role as
in giving you evaluation and responding to the options proposed
by the applicant. That is what staff has done with their report.
You have told the applicant that they must do certain things with
respect to this. If they can show you some alternative you will
not require that, you might accept some alternative if you find the
alternative acceptable. The applicant is responding to you and
saying here is what we would propose to do. This is the court of
last resort as far as the City is concerned. There are other
courts after that.
Mayor Van Dusen said at this point we can allow opponents and
proponents to whatever is brought up. Mr. Haney said they can
respond and you can allow others to respond to what the applicant
brings forth tonight. That is certainly appropriate. Staff is
here to give you a recommendation on the new material, just as
they would the BAR.
Rick Beeler, Planning Director, said the role staff has taken
and the report submitted is the normal procedure for staff to
support the Planning Commission and yourselves on a land use
matter. Staff has no problem entering this Exhibit into the record
simply because it has already been submitted to you and then
whenever you want us in the hearing.
Council President Morgan said that will be alright as long as it
is known that this is simply the Planning Department recommendation.
Rick Beeler, Planning Director, said then for the record they
would enter Exhibit 80, it has been confirmed that it is the correct
number to use, the Staff Report with an attachment A, which
includes the larger document entitled "Valley View Estates
Transition Studies, date May 1, 1987." That attachment contains
some documents: (1) a letter of May 1, 1987 from Mithun, Emrick,
Bowman Group; and also some drawings and site plans of what are
labeled as Option 1 and Option 2. Moira Bradshaw of the Planning
Department is here to present the staff report.
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May 26, 1987
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PUBLIC HEARING- Contd.
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Review Approval
of alternative bldg.
design contd.
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Moira Bradshaw, Assistant Planner, stated on April 15 the Council
made a verbal decision through a motion to approve the Valley
View Estates' proposal under certain conditions. Specifically
there was Condition No. 3 that stated that transition was not
sufficient as it was proposed on Exhibit 19 and made Condition
No. 3 that they reevaluate and reduce the number of stories to
the north and to the south and specifically that affected buildings
1, 2, 3, 4, 17 and 18. Staff met with the applicant and
their architect to discuss the verbal motion, to look at the
alternatives and to consider ways of making up for possible loss
of unit count when the number of stories were reduced on those
outside buildings. On April 27 you adopted your Findings and
Conclusions and the specific wording of Condition 3 was spelled
out, that is on page 2 of the Staff Report. It is listed verbatim.
Basically the City Council listed their view of appropriate
transition, buildings 1, 3 and 18 would be reduced to one story
plus the basement; 2, 4 and 17 would be reduced to a height of
two stories plus a basement. You also listed in there the flexibility
that these height reductions could be looked at in a different
way and proposed through alternatives by the applicant and you would
review that within the following six weeks should they come forward
with an alternate proposal. Those alternatives then are shown
for you in Attachment A, they came forward with Option 1 and Option 2
and those were the two options then that the City staff reviewed
and as a way of providing transition for the project to the north
and the south. Neither of those two options reduces the number of
stories to one and a basement. Part of the problem of doing that
that Jim Haney mentioned before was that due to the slope of the
hillside, in order to have a one story building with a basement
would be that the entry level from primarily the west side of those
buildings would have to be lowered into the dirt and you would have
to have retaining walls and wells to provide entrance and light
to that first story. Neither do any of the options come up with
alternatives within the interior of the site to make up for the
loss of unit count. Option 1 has a 3 unit loss and Option 2 has
a 9 unit loss. There is some reference made by the architect that
should the applicant or should the City wish to look at those
he can provide those but they are not before you tonight. So, again,
City staff went with what they had before them, Option 1 and Option 2.
On May 18 this staff report was transmitted to the City Council
and mailed to the applicant and interested parties who have
testified before you, Mr. Goe and Mr. Robertson, and the staff
has recommended Option 2 as providing an adequate transition to
the south across Slade Way to the single family homes and to the
north across the City Light easement to potential single family
homes that may be located there. The reasons for the recommendation
are (1) the applicant has reduced the first buildings, 1, 3, and 18
to a two story building with a basement. The two story building
would provide a single story from the west side and two or three
levels from the west. They have considerably altered the location
of buildings 1 and 2. They have changed 2 and moved it from an
east -west access to a north -south access so the shortest portion
of building 2 is then viewed from the south side which was a
major concern of the Council. Building 1 is canted so the most
mass of the building is no longer directly parallel to the road
but it would be seen from an angle and therefore the vision of
the mass would be somewhat reduced. In addition, building 1 was
increased in setback and #2 was also increased in setback. Down to
buildings 3 and 4, they increased the setback from 20'. As I go
through these you can follow along. The pages are not numbered.
On buildings 3 and 4 they were previously oriented on a east -west
access so the major portion of the building was parallel to the
street; they realigned 3 and 4 parallel with the other buildings
5, 6, 7 and 8 thereby increasing the setback from 20' to 35'.
Again the outside building had a story reduced, effectively it went
down from averaging 35' to somewhat less than 30'. Building 4
was split so you have somewhat of a setback reduction in the mass
closer to the outside while still maintaining one of the units on
the upper story. As far as 3 and 4 go, they increased the setback
they showed a larger landscaping area and again reduced it so you
still have one story visually seen from the entrance and your
two lower stories a basement and a story below. On 17 and 18
they had originally proposed a 35 -36 split setback from the
north property line, again 18 would be similar to the mass of
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of alternative bldg.
design contd.
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1 and 3, with two story and a basement and 17 would be the split
level with the outside portion of the building reduced to two
stories and a basement and the inner portion of the building would
be at its regularly proposed height.
Staff saw the intent of providing adequate more appropriate
transition around the outside of the project as being provided
through Option 2. The relocation of the buildings, the increase
in the setback, the reduction of one story and 1/2 story or half
of the buildings and the canting so the full effect of the mass of
the building from the side parallel to the road was changed by
reorientating the outside structures. The setbacks that are being
proposed, 36 and 50' minimum on the outsides will exceed typical
single family setbacks of 30', the heights of the outside buildings
again will be less than the average height of the single family
structure permitted which is 30' so for those reasons the staff
is recommending Option 2 be considered for compliance with
Condition #3 of the City Council's decision for approval of this
project.
Councilmember Harris said then this Option reduces the unit count
by 9, am I right in assuming those units are not scattered somewhere
else.
Ms. Bradshaw said at this time they have not presented that and
as Mr. Haney said and I stated we at City Staff level reviewed what
was given to us. In discussions after that the applicant may desire
if the unit count is reduced by 9 units, whatever the final decision
of the Council is, may wish to come back with perhaps some interior
modifications to increase the number of units. Right now we do
not have that information.
Councilmember Harris said if the Council accepts Option 2 can she
then assume that no more units will be visually built?
Ms. Bradshaw said this information would have to be supplied by
the applicant's information.
Mr. Haney, City Attorney, said his understanding is that they
understand that if they put additional units in the interior of
the site they would go back to the BAR. That would be a redesign
of the project.
Council President Morgan said if this Council, whichever Option
it accepts, and the applicant made the decision then to add some
additional units internally to come up to the original 108, could
they then change what had been approved at this meeting?
Jim Haney, City Attorney, said if they go back before the BAR and
start with a revised plan they could do that.
Council President Morgan said they could then alter what was approved?
Mr. Haney said it would be a redesign of the project and they would
be coming back through the BAR and ultimately that could be appealed
to the Council again.
Council President Morgan said if the Council statement clearly
said that we said if the applicant could come up with a redesign
internally in the property that could be part of what they
presented to us. It is my understanding that that fell within the
six -week jurisdiction. Mr. Haney said for the Council, yes. He
said if they are going to go back for the BAR, they always have that
option and to repropose the project in some other configuration
and go back to the BAR with a different site plan. They would have
that option regardless of the Council decision in this proceeding.
Jim Haney, City Attorney, said he noticed in all of the drawings
related to the option there is some landscaping area that is laid
out in circles. Is that an increase in the lancscaping?
Ms. Bradshaw said staff assumed that they would be intensifying
the landscaping in that area and it was included as part of staff
recommendation. They do not have specific plants identified nor
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Review Approval
of alternative bldg.
design contd.
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do we have numbers. We assumed that their landscape architect
would come up with a proposal. We, of course, would stipulate
that trees to provide transition and screening would be the
appropriate landscape materials for that area. The transition
is the intent.
Mr. Haney said his question is that it looks from the drawing
at least, that by increasing the set back they have increased at
least the width of the strip that they are calling landscaping
regardless of what is in there and it would be additional landscaping
he would assume.
Ms. Bradshaw said that was staff's understanding. All of that area
would be in grass or trees so that would be additional landscaping.
The actual content of the landscaping will have to be determined
by the Council for Condition #3.
Dennis Robertson, 16038 48th South, said will the applicant come
back during this 6 -week period with another proposal if this
is accepted or rejected can they come back within this 6 -week
period? If it is accepted can they come back with one during the
6 -week period showing additional units or some other site plan?
Joel Haggard, attorney for the applicant, said that he believed
that Mr. Robertson's comments are not only legally incorrect but
they are highly speculative and they assume a result by this
Council.
Mr. Haggard said on page 18 of Council's decision, paragraph 3,
you indicated that building masses were to be reduced on the
north and south side of the proposed project and you indicated in
very specific terms what you desired. In Conclusion #1 it states
that the finished grades would be such that the uphill eaves
of the perimeter buildings would be at a below -grade elevation.
It also indicates that this would force the applicant to build
retaining walls,wellsfor windows, doors, etc. One might also
speculate and anticipate that there would be the suggestion that
if we follow that approach we would have to assure child safety
by putting fences on the edges of the roof to prevent people
from climbing up. This is probably not what all of us want. On
the other hand, Members of the Council, we not only listened to
what you said we also through the courtesy of your Clerk's office
were able to arrange for a transcript of what you said so we could
see it and not just rely on our memory or impression. We took to
heart the second portion of Decision Condition #3 which indicated
if we wanted to propose height reductions or alternative configura-
tions we should do it in a timely fashion and we should come back
to the Council and present this information to you. Tonight you
have in front of you at least two pieces of information. You have
the staff report and the applicant's presentation of two alterna-
tives. He pointed out in the staff report in their Conclusions
they do talk through Conclusions 1 through 6 basically about
Option 2 and then in Conclusion 7 they think Option 2 is more
acceptable than Option 1. They don't give you conclusions as to
the acceptability or the benefits of Option 1. Tonight we have
one witness that will be presenting information to you. It is
the architect that you have seen here before. He is with the
firm that designed the City Hall. When they first had the building
designs for City Hall and showed them to the various people involved
there were probably suggestions of changes, etc. In a large measure
that is what Fred has been asked here to do tonight, to listen to
what you said and try to accomplish you have indicated you want
to accomplish. Mr. Haney has offered opinions and advice through
this proceeding and I have offered comments not always in agreement.
I would like to share one thing that has been troubling me with
respect to what the Council has been asked to do. As I reviewed
the Findings and Conclusions and look specifically at the BAR
criteria I find on page 16 a discussion with respect to the masses
of the building there. That is in respect to a criteria about
architectural style. A valuation of the project should be based
on quality of its design in relationship to its surroundings. In
relationship to its surroundings. No specified criteria, it doesn't
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May 26, 1987
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Valley View Estates,
Review Approval
of alternative bldg.
design contd.
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say what relationship should be met and I would have to infer
a degree of reasonableness. I also look at page 6 in the
Findings and it says that one of the BAR's criteria is that
there should be an accomplishment of a desirable transition
to the street scale. So we have the concept of reasonableness
that is inferred, we have the concept of desirable and then
finally on page 9 we have a comment about harmoney, texture,
line and masses. I don't think that really applies. I think
it is .050(1a) and I think it is also .050(4a). Why do I
bring this up? Because in determining what is an acceptable
or desirable or a reasonable transition I believe it is
important to find out what standards we are judging it against.
The standards we are judging it against is not political
acceptability. I understand very well members of the Council
have expressed a concern about having this matter over and
finished because there is an election coming up and there is
a desire to talk with constituents. This is understandable.
I also know that in things like the Park Ridge case our
court has clearly told us that public opinion, political
issues are not relevant and are not determinative of your
decision. Probably this is because in a quasi judicial
hearing such as this the court is equally concerned about
the constitutional rights of the property owners to know what
standards are going to be used to judge the proceeding. I have
also struggled with this question of standards and what we
mean. Is there some kind of an objective criteria? The
BAR criteria doesn't give you objective standards. The only
objective standards we have is in the zoning code and you have
heard staff indicate that we have heights less than and set-
backs greater than if we were a single family resident. I
think these standards indicate some of the type of things
you were concerned about. Move it back farther, drop it down.
On the other hand, the BAR criteria are qualitative
and that is why I have expressed concern in the past and I
have expressed the concern to your attorney because of the
Carlson vs. Bosart Village case where the court indicated to
allow the town council to deny the application based on
"the best interests of the town citizens" would put the
Carolsons like the applicants in the predicament of having
no basis for determining how they would comply with the law.
Consequently, we find that the actions of the town council
were arbitrary and capricious. That is why I have been
struggling and why we have asked only one witness tonight
to talk to you about what is appropriate about relocation,
reorientation, building height reductions and stepping
and increased landscaping so we can provide you with an
adequate basis for making a decision. It is also fair to
state as our position that if the Council were to adopt
Alternative 1 or Option 1, the one that causes a loss of 3
units we will accept that decision. If, on the other hand,
the Council adopts Option 2 and causes a loss of 9 units we
will have to go back to the BAR to show additional structures
or units interior to recapture some of the units. Staff
perhaps feel a little cheated because we did not bring to you
an identification as to how we would recover those additional
units. You have not made the decision that would require
us to consider that yet. If you were to do that then we are
going to have to do some engineering and then go back to
the BAR. We hope we can present the information to you
that will allow you to choose Option 1 as an acceptable and
appropriate transition.
I will turn the time over to Fred, the architect, and state
we will have only one more exhibit, which is Exhibit 81.
Mayor Van Dusen called for a five minute recess.
Mayor Van Dusen called the Special Meeting back to order,
with Councilmembers present as previously listed.
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May 26, 1987
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PUBLIC HEARING Contd.
Valley View Estates,
Review Approval
of alternative bldg.
design contd.
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Fred Brown, architect with firm of Mithun, Bowman, Emrich
Group, Bellevue, referred to Exhibit 81 as mainly worksheets.
He explained the work sheets and how they would affect
the buildings. Building #1 would be reduced 18', Building #2
would be reduced 9'; retains setbacks; reduces unit length to
street; creates safety and security problem with roof adjacent
to grade; retains landscaping from street to building #1;
deletes six units; building #1 living level is 9' below
parking and 5' below Slade Way. On page 2 it shows the
relationships to buildings #3 and #4. Reduces height of
building 3 18', building #4 9'; retains setbacks; reduces unit
length to street; creates safety and security problem with
roof adjacent to grade (building #3); retains landscaping from
street to building #3; deletes 6 units; building #3 living
level 9' below parking and 4' below Slade Way. On page 3
it reduces height of building #18 18' and building #17 9';
retains setbacks; reduces unit lengths; creates safety and secur
security problem with roof adjacent to grade; retains land-
scaping; deletes 6 units; building #18 living level 9' below
parking. Page 4 relocates building #1; building #1 setback
increased from 20' to 50'; building #2 setback increased from
84' to 120'; landscaping increased between street and
building #1. On page 5 it demonstrates what has been done
with building #1 by relocating it. Page 6 shows building #1
reduced height; and ridge is 24' above adjacent street
elevation (Slade Way). Page 7 shows relocation of buildings
#3 and #4. Building #3 setback increased from 20' to 42';
landscaping increased between street and building #3.
Page 8 shows relocation of buildings #3 and #4 and reduces
length; page 9 shows 1/2 of building #3 is reduced 1 floor
(9'); page 10 shows building #1 and reduces height of one -half
of building #1 9'; increases setback of building #1 20' to
50'; increases setback of building #2 84' to 120'; reduces unit
length; reduces unit height; increases landscaping between
street and building; deletes one unit; "breaks -up" roof mass;
retains building facade. Page 11 reduces height building #3
9'; increases setback to 42'; reduces unit length and height;
increases landscaping; deletes one unit; "breaks -up" roof mass;
retains building facade. Page 12 reduces height building #18
9'; retains 36' setback with landscaping; reduces length and
height; deletes one unit; "breaks -up" roof mass; retains buildir
facade. Page 13 treats building #2 as building #1 except
reduces height building #1 9' and reduces height of one -half
of building #2 9'; deletes three units. Page 14 treats building
#4 as #3 except reduces height 9' of building #3 and reduces
height of one -half of building #4 9'; deletes 3 units. Page 15
treats building #17 as building #18 except reduces height
of building #18 9'; reduces height building #17 9'; deletes
three units. Page 16 is a summary of options, recommending
approval to Option 1.
Mayor Van Dusen called a five minute recess.
The Special Meeting was called back to order by Mayor Van Dusen
with Councilmembers present as previously listed.
Dennis Robertson, audience, 16038 48th Avenue South, Tukwila,
said he would like to go back eight or nine years. He said
he was president of McMicken Height Improvement Club and on
Military Road and 188th where there is now a condominium with
attached housing it was vacant land. On the Comprehensive
Land Use Plan it was shown as medium density apartments.
We had a freeze that King County had applied to any upzones
until the Highland Community Plan was done. The Club had
been working with them. A developer came in and wanted to
build apartments there. He talked to people in the vicinity.
When they applied for a hearing the freeze was noted. They
wanted a community meeting. We chaired the meeting. The
Council wanted to know whether the community wanted that
development because of the freeze. The developer had told
the people the issue was where to put ingress and egress to
the development.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
MAY 26, 1987
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PUBLIC HEARING- Contd.
Valley View Estates,
Review Approval
of alternative bldg.
design contd.
We had all of the people fighting among themselves as to
who would have the entrances and exits in front of their
place. The situation was then explained that it was not a
matter of entrances and exits. A vote was taken and it was
130 to nothing not to build the development. What
has happened here is that the City has had several proposals
presented as if you have to accept one of them. On the last
page of the exhibit is the summary of options. It talks about
reducing height. Reducing height was what this whole thing
was about. The idea of lowering the mass of the building was
to lower the height of them, the visual height, that is the
point that was raised. It doesn't talk about how much it
reduces the height in detail, or by which building. The
reductions in height are complex. There are lots of places
where the heights are not reduced. This table does not show
that at all. Item 11 states "requires adding units to interior
of site." If you believe the table then it says you have to
add units to Option 0 or Option 2. The developer may come
back in a few weeks and say he wants to add more to this, which
is his right I believe. He can always go back to the BAR
with a new building proposal.
In the original plan, Exhibit 80, the Staff Report, Option
1 did not meet any condition that was proposed. On the first
page of Option 2, the neatest thing was that buildings could
be relocated. In Option 0 the fact that building roofs would
touch the ground was a matter of concern. There are lots of
solutions to that, none of which were explored. The easiest
one is to move the building out from the hillside so you
cannot step onto the roof. They didn't propose that.
In Building #2 they eliminated one -half of the upper level.
We pointed out the problem with those buildings was how they
would appear visually from the south. Buildings #3 and #4
will cut into the recreation area that was proposed to go
there. I have not seen that recreation area supplied elsewhere.
There is no indoor recreation area; no cabana, no swimming
pool.
Mr. Robertson said there are lots of apartments that did not
meet the conditions set up. Neither proposal has changed
much. He said he though the applicant should give the City
a total site plan to make a decision.
Dharlene West, 5212 South 164th, said she felt this proposal of
Options 1 and 2 is not responsive to the intent of the
City Council. It seems that height and scale should be in
harmony.
Council President Morgan said building #3 and others appeared
all angular. Architect Fred Brown said the reason is that
they are viewed from the street in a single family
residential zone. They are turned to give them more modulation.
Council President Morgan said rather than physically reducing
the buildings they have been moved so it appears to be less
imposing. She said the City Council provided another option
which was a major reduction in the number of units to
achieve this transition.
City Attorney Haney the applicant has offered some alternatives.
The Council should make a decision on those proposals. You
can reject both Option #1 and #2. Option 2 proposes question
would it require additional units to be located on the site?
If they did they would have to go back to the BAR.
Rick Beeler, Planning Director, asked if it is possible for
the Council to choose part of Option 1 and part of Option 2?
Mr. Haney said the Council would have the option of 1 or 2 or
they could probably pick a portion of 1 and 2.
Dennis Robertson, audience, said Exhibit 82 shows the impact
of relocation of Units 3 and 4. It shows if the new
landscape plan is put in it will not allow the recreation
area to exist as required.
UKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
gay 26, 1987
age 10
UBLIC HEARING Contd.
alley View Estates,
eview Approval
f alternative bldg.
esign contd.
DJOURNMENT
1:30 P.M.
Mayor Van Dusen stated it was 11:00 p.m. and the rules would
have to be suspended to continue the meeting.
MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY MORGAN, TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND
CONTINUE THE MEETING. MOTION CARRIED.
Rick Beeler, Planning Director, stated it was the recommendation
of staff to accept Option 2. Of the two options, Option #2 fits
better.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 11:15 P.M.
Councilmembers discussed Options #1 and #2, the deletion of
some units and additional landscaping. The original
decision of the Council was to create a transition between
the multiple high density and the single family residential
areas. The Council asked the developer to show them if they
want to have 108 units how do they plan to do it?
MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
DETERMINE THAT OPTIONS #1 AND #2 DO NOT SATISFY CONDTION 3
IN FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS.
ROLL CALL VOTE: HARRIS, MORGAN, SIMPSON, STOKNES VOTING NO.
BAUCH AND DUFFIE VOTING YES. MOTION FAILED, FOUR TO TWO.
MOVED BY MORGAN, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT COUNCIL ACCEPT
OPTION 2 AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING STAFF.
ROLL CALL VOTE: HARRIS, MORGAN, SIMPSON, STOKNES VOTING YES.
BAUCH AND DUFFIE VOTING NO. MOTION CARRIED, FOUR TO TWO.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY
BRING BACK FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS WITH THE DECISION. MOTION
CARRIED.
MOVED BY DUFFIE, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE SPECIAL MEETING
ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED.
C
Mayor Gary L. Van Dusen
Norma Booher, Recording Secretary
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