HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-02-12 Special Minutes - Valley View Estates Appeal Public Hearing (Continued)February 12, 1987
7:00 p.m.
Public Hearing
continued from 2/4/87
Council Members
Present
Officials
Councilman McKenna
is excused from the
meeting to comply
with the Appearance
of Fairness Doctrine.
7:20 7:35 p.m.
COUNCIL
Deliberation on the
adequacy of the EIS
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED
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Tukwila City Hall
Council Chambers
Mayor Van Dusen called the Public Hearing, continued from
February 4, 1987, to order.
MABEL J. HARRIS; JOE H. DUFFIE; WENDY A. MORGAN, Council
President; EDGAR D. BAUCH; CHARLES E. SIMPSON; MARILYN G.
STOKNES.
JAMES HANEY, City Attorney; RICK BEELER, Planning Director;
MAXINE ANDERSON, City Clerk.
There is a Court Reporter in attendance to record a verbatim
record of the meeting.
Attorney Haney commented that tonight Council is to consider
the testimony they have heard. If they find, on any par-
ticular issue, that the EIS fails to identify a significant
probably adverse environmental impact or that it fails to
deal in a reasonable manner with mitigation measures or with
alternatives, they would find the EIS to be inadequate. If
they find that it reasonably discusses and discloses, they
will find it adequate. He reviewed the questions raised by
Councilman Bauch at the end of the last meeting. The
questions concerning the potential liability to the City in
connection with the issuance of this permit or the enforce-
ment of permit conditions should be discussed in an executive
session. It is not a matter to be considered in the adequacy
of the EIS. Question 1 is, whether staff, in future con-
sideration of this project, could take into account the
material presented in the EIS appeal. The answer is that if
the material relates to environmental issues and, as long as
the impact to which that information relates has been iden-
tified in the EIS, staff can go ahead and consider it.
Question 2 is whether the City Council could consider the
record made in the EIS appeal when considering the appeal of
the BAR decision. The answer is that the W.A.C. regulations
and the statute on appeals of EIS issues provides that that
appeal is to be consolidated with the agency's substantive
decision on the proposal. Council has heard the EIS appeal
first so they can make a decision on it and see if they will
then move on to the BAR issues.
Council can take into account the record of the EIS appeal to
the extent that it bears on the BAR criteria and on the
issues raised by the appellants in the BAR appeals.
MOVED BY DUFFIE, SECONDED BY BAUCH, THAT COUNCIL GO INTO
EXECUTIVE SESSION TO HEAR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S RESPONSE TO
COUNCILMAN BAUCH'S QUESTIONS ON LIABILITY. MOTION CARRIED.
(15 minute recess was taken for the executive session)
Mayor Van Dusen called the public hearing back to order.
Mayor Van Dusen stated that all the testimony, rebuttals and
closings have been given by the appellants and the City. The
testimony portion of the public hearing has been closed.
Land Use and Air Pollution:
Council Member Harris felt the proper use of the R -1 zone is
for single family homes so a place for children to play would
be a proper use. The use for a driveway in the R -1 zone is
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questionable. The City was involved in a lawsuit at one time
when R -1 zoned property was used for access to an apartment
complex. The Court ruled that driveway use was permitted.
Attorney Haney stated that the question of whether or not the
project violates the zoning code is not a question of ade-
quacy of the EIS. Staff made an administrative interpreta-
tion when the project first came in. They felt the children's
play area in the R -1 zone was similar to an allowed use of
public playground or park. They are still looking into this.
The City will not approve a project that is improperly in the
R -1 zone.
Council President Morgan pointed out two issues she had
discussed with the City Attorney. Does the EIS, by its
design, address only those issues which are related to the
construction of the buildings or is it a long term statement.
The answer was that it is a statement of the impact of the
buildings over the long haul. Are we concerned with the
environmental impacts, not only that the building of this
project creates and the number of people it will bring to
that site creates on the environment surrounding it? The
answer is yes. We are also concerned with the effects of the
environment on the people who live there.
She has used both of these measurements in her assessment of
statements made by the appellants and in reading the EIS.
She agreed with Mr. Crain that the 1975 data on air pollution
in the EIS is outdated; a more recent study would be helpful.
Second, she noted much of the information provided about air
quality related to the effects of the complex upon the
surrounding area. When she tried to look at it in reverse,
there was information lacking.
Council Member Harris noted that the state no longer monitors
the air; unless they do, there is no other way. This was
disclosed adequately. If the increase of traffic is adverse
to this project, it is adverse to the whole area.
Council President Morgan felt the EIS did not actually miti-
gate the issues of multi family development being built on
the boarder of single family homes. She felt the EIS needed
to talk more about precedents. The EIS does not disclose
what the development is- -needs to be much clearer about this
and about the precedents issue.
Council Member Harris quoted from Page 91 and said it is very
clear. She may not like having this development there, but
it has been fully disclosed. Another Council could come
along and, under pressure, change the zoning. It is
disclosed.
Councilman Simpson agreed. It is a political decision that
could happen twenty years from now. We have no guarantees
what will happen a year from now.
Attorney Haney commented that whether or not the ownership is
by one individual or by a number of individuals in a con-
dominium association is not necessarily an environmental
impact unless you can find from the evidence presented to you
that there will be some effect on the elements set forth in
the EIS. Some place further down the line the actual use
might be specified and that new information may create an
environmental impact. There could be a supplemental EIS
required at that time or an addendum.
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Parking and Transportation:
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Council Member Stoknes said that she agreed with what the
appellants said, but it seems that the EIS has dealt with the
issue of traffic and parking adequately.
Council Member Harris has trouble believing that 12 parking
spaces are adequate, however, the information furnished on
the parking spaces in other complexes in the City indicates
that this is adequate.
Councilman Bauch noted that the exhibit does not show how
many cars are parking on the street.
Councilman Simpson noted what Council is dealing with is a
plan that comes under the parking requirements of the old
code, 12 parking spaces. This is what we have to deal with.
Council President Morgan, during previous testimony, had
asked if they questioned the tenants of the buildings about
the parking, and she was told they talked to management. She
felt you get a different answer depending on who you talk to.
She found the parking issue lacking.
Council President Morgan said her objections to the on -site
parking is to encourage the increase in stalls per unit to
prevent off -site parking.
Councilman Bauch noted that you have to recognize that this
EIS was overseen by the Planning Staff. The Planning Staff
knows what any development has to do as far as widening the
street, sidewalks, etc. The appellants did talk about the
street being narrow, but they did fail to address the
development that will have to take place, not as a mitigation
measure, but as a development measure. This is the place
where they address the traffic light at Klickitat.
Participation in the light is mentioned in the EIS.
RECESS Mayor Van Dusen called the public hearing back to order.
8:35 8:45 p.m.
Sidewalks (So. 160th):
Councilman Simpson said he has no problem with the EIS as
stated. There are other rules and regulations that govern
this. It adequately addressed the permit procedure. As far
as hillsliding, it was adequately addressed by two
geologists.
Council Member Harris said that the mitigating measures did
say that by City ordinance, sidewalks will be required along
the site; roadway shoulders will be widened, and a gravel
path or sidewalk could be provided on the east side. It has
been addressed.
Council President Morgan felt the EIS did not deal adequately
with pedestrians walking from this project to Southcenter.
We have not made provisions in the planning for sidewalks
along Klickitat going to Southcenter. We have stops that go
down to a shoulder, but this complex will add 100 or more
people who may choose to walk. The EIS makes no safety pro-
visions for pedestrians walking to Southcenter.
Council Member Harris said the EIS, if it is an adverse
effect, would have to give the mitigating measures, and she
questioned whether the project should pay for sidewalks to
Southcenter.
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Noise:
Council had no comment on the issue of noise.
Engineering Aspects:
Councilman Duffie expressed concern about the process for the
development. Will there be an inspector on the job? Will
they be allowed to work at night? Will they be allowed to go
in and cut all the trees down?
Mayor Van Dusen said it is impossible to keep an inspector on
the job 24 hours a day.
Councilman Duffie further expressed concern over the drain
system. It needs control. How do we relieve the City from
not being responsible.
Mayor Van Dusen said that many conditions will have to be on
the permit for the project.
Councilman Duffie said he has noticed the street in that area
is already shifting; it has been patched all the way across
the street. He does not believe this was addressed ade-
quately in the EIS.
Attorney Haney explained that Council should look at this as
the Building Official in deciding what conditions might be
placed on the project. Would the EIS give you enough infor-
mation so you could have an idea of what the project impacts
were in that area or what mitigation measures you had to
choose from. If you can say, yes, to this, then you should
say the EIS is adequate.
Councilman Bauch said he can appreciate the concerns the
appellants have in this matter. We have been told that the
Final Environmental Impact Statement is not the final deci-
sion document, but we have been told that before. We have
talked about air pollution and noise and there is nothing we
can do about them. It is hard to separate the surrounding
effects from that which the site will create. If we said
this was a serious problem in this case, we would have to
stop all development. Soils is another matter; it concerns
me. On Page 145 of the appendix in a letter from the Corps of
Engineers, they question whether or not it is advisable to
develop homesites on this landslide -prone site. In Exhibit
21 the Office of the Attorney General noted the unstable area
and any development on the hillside must be at the appli-
cant's own risk. Insurance companies won't insure for earth-
quakes. The concerns on the R -1 area have been answered by
the City Attorney. This is on -going and does not have to be
addressed in the EIS. It just has to be done correctly. It
is good that it has been brought out. The noise, traffic,
and air pollution are all impacts of the location. The loca-
tion is driven by the market place. The applicant feels they
are going to be able to sell or rent these units. If we make
even the smallest change in the EIS, it has to go back to the
Planning Commission for another hearing. I don't think the
items that have been discussed here would change the decision
of the BAR. We still have the appeal on the decision of the
Board of Architectural Review before it goes through the
building permit process where additional screening will be
done. This matter will not be settled by adding a couple of
more appendixes to the EIS or by adding more traffic data.
It will be determined at the BAR hearing.
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February 12, 1987
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MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY STOKNES, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
FIND THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT IS ADEQUATE.
MOTION CARRIED WITH MORGAN AND DUFFIE VOTING NO.
Mayor Van Dusen stated that Council finds the EIS to be ade-
quate, and he closed the Public Hearing.
Attorney Haney offered that he will now prepare Findings and
conclusions based upon Council's deliberations.
Public Hearing was closed at 9:15 p.m.
'Gary(.e. Van Dusen, Mayor
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Maxine Anderson, City Clerk