HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-04-15 Special Minutes - Valley View Estates Appeal Public Hearing (Continued)TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED
VALLEY VIEW ESTATES APPEAL
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April 15, 1987 Tukwila City Hall
7:00 p.m. Council Chambers
M I N U T E S
Public Hearing
Council Members
Present
Mayor Van Dusen reopened the Public Hearing on the Valley
View Estates Appeal of the Board or Architectural Review
decision.
MABEL J. HARRIS; JOE H. DUFFIE; WENDY A. MORGAN, Council
President; EDGAR D. BAUCH; CHARLES E. SIMPSON; MARILYN G.
STOKNES. Councilman McKenna is not in attendance to comply
with the Appearance of Fairness Doctrine.
Council Deliberations Attorney Haney explained that Council will review the conclu-
sions of the BAR and will determine whether they made an
error on any of the criteria. If Council makes some changes
on the project itself based on the evidence that has been
presented, they are determining the BAR erred.
Conclusion 1. TMC 18.60.050(1): Relationship of structure
to site.
1 -A. The site should be planned to accomplish a desirable
transition with the streetscape and to provide for adequate
landscaping and pedestrian movement.
Council President Morgan noted that in The City's closing
arguments of April 9, they recommended adoption and changes
(Exhibit 79). There are two items: (1) Fifteen evergreen
cedars 6 feet in height along the perimeter of the R -1
district frontage height of Slade Way (see Exhibit 58); (2)
Pedestrian walkway extended from structures 1 and 2 out to
right -of -way (see Exhibit 58). She asked Council to consider
these changes.
Council concurred with this recommendation.
1 -B. Parking and service areas should be located, designed
and screened to moderate visual impact of large paved areas.
Councilman Bauch expressed concern with the dumpster areas.
There is no assurance that the dumpsters cannot be seen from
the street. From the sidewalk adjacent to Slade Way you will
be looking down into the site. Provisions are needed so
that, even after one year, review will be made to be sure you
cannot see the dumpsters from the street at any time of the
year. He suggested natural vegetation high enough and dense
enough to hide the dumpsters from off the property. If this
is impossible to do, then they may have to be covered.
Councilman Duffie felt the dumpsters should be enclosed.
People from above should not have to look down on the gar-
bage.
Council Member Harris agreed that dumpsters need to be
screened effectively so they cannot be seen from the street.
Attorney Haney clarified that Councilman Bauch's conclusion
is that the BAR should have been more specific.
Council concurred with this except for Councilman Duffie who
felt the dumpsters should be covered.
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Council Deliberations 1 -C. The height and scale of each building should be con
(cont.) sidered in relation to the site.
Councilman Bauch said the Board of Architectural Review erred
in this section by not pointing out the hazards that were
spelled out in the Environmental Impact Statement as to soils
stability. All of the drainage and other requirements that
were in the EIS should be mentioned. By failing to recognize
this, the BAR erred.
Attorney Haney commented that the BAR criteria deals with the
architectural features of the buildings versus the actual
structural components of the buildings and the stability of
the site itself.
Councilman Bauch referred to the EIS and said the soils
engineer will be on site at all times while they are pre-
paring the foundations or digging; if they find anything, the
buildings will be moved to satisfy the conditions.
Attorney Haney said the soils analysis and those types of
conditions will come in at the Building Permit stage. This
is more what the buildings will look like. This is what the
BAR has jurisdiction to deal with. SEPA provides that the
conditioning of the permit by the non elected official is
appealable to the City Council.
Council President Morgan noted that there was discussion
about the need for some additional screening on the east side
to offer some variation. The BAR also said the face could be
landscaped with additional evergreen conifers. The landscape
plan does not show a tremendous number of conifers along this
border.
Mayor Van Dusen commented that he agreed with Council
President Morgan, but would like Council to address the
natural vegetation that is there. It is alders and black-
berries. It should be augmented with some further plantings.
Council President Morgan said the BAR's conclusion was
lacking in that it is not specific to the kind of screening
that needs to go there. She asked Council to be more speci-
fic about this -the easterly border you would see when
looking toward the property.
Councilman Simpson suggested that an additional amount of
evergreens should be placed by buildings 3 through 9 along
the east border.
Council President Morgan added that the number of trees to
be added to the easterly border of 3 through 9 be in propor-
tion to that number which is required for buildings 10
through 18.
Council concurred with this wording.
Councilman Bauch asked Council to go back to 1 -A. He had
previously asked the City Attorney if the City could forbid
the cutting or thinning of alders if they are put forth as a
screen.
Attorney Haney said yes, you can require the existing alders
to be maintained. He suggested that a condition could be
required that would say the alder trees in that area would
have to be maintained except to the extent that they are
required to be removed for safety.
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Council Deliberations There was no further discussion at this point.
(cont.)
Councilman Bauch asked Council to consider Finding No. 9.
The BAR erred -they thought the only important thing was the
maintenance of the Department of Transportation facilities.
That is a minor part of the EIS; this needs to be expanded.
Council agreed. Attorney Haney said that he has had
discussions with staff concerning this project and the poten-
tial conditions for the building permit. The drainage issue
and slope stability are definitely to be considered further.
RECESS
8:07 8:20 p.m.
Mayor Van Dusen declared a 10 minute break.
The meeting was called back to order.
Conclusion 2. TMC 18.60.050(2): Relationship of Structure
and Site to Adjoining Area.
2 -A. Harmony in texture, lines and masses.
Councilman Simpson expressed concern with the height of the
buildings 1 and 3 which abut the street. If we lower these
by one level, the stair step would be adequate and blend in.
Council President Morgan referred to "Feasibility of
Variation B," Page 10 of the EIS. Mayor Van Dusen read the
paragraph.
Councilman Bauch quoted from the Comprehensive Land Use
Policy Plan which as adopted ten years ago. Page 45, Section
1 (which gives instructions to Planning Staff and Commission,
the BAR and the Developer) states, "Protect all viable neigh-
borhoods from intrusions by incompatible land uses," and
"minimize the incompatibilities between different types of
residential uses." Policy I, page 47 from the Comprehensive
Land Use Policy Plan reads, "Provide for medium density
'transition areas' between high and low density residential
areas." If you didn't set requirements through the Zoning
Code, you have to do it on the site. This is the first
appeal to a BAR decision.
Councilman Bauch continued, a lot of time was spent telling
us how these buildings look like single family. They say they
are only 2 stories high and only 30 feet wide; they are just
a bunch of single family houses. You have to walk pretty
slow along 53rd and Slade Way to look between the buildings.
If you're not exactly in the center you can't see through; it
is a solid row of buildings. The mass is tremendous. When
you come around the corner of 54th Avenue and start up Slade
Way, you will see a building that is bigger than Frederick
Nelson's if you're parked right beside it. Twenty feet from
the intersection, you're going to see a building 55 feet tall
as shown on Exhibit 74. All you have to do is look at the
figure. When you add them up, it says at the top of the
building, it is 55 feet tall -20 feet from the sidewalk. To
say that this is not going to impact the adjoining neigh-
borhood; the Board totally erred. It is inconceivable; where
is the transition that the Comprehensive Plan asked for?
They never did mention what the buildings would look like
from the side. There has to be a transition into the single
family, and you are going to have to do it on the site.
Variation B of the EIS did not go far enough. It eliminates
Buildings 1 and 2 and reduces Buildings 3 and 18 to 1 floor.
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Council Deliberations Then he thought Buildings 4 and 17 should be reduced to two
(cont.) floors. The Comprehensive Plan says there should be
triplexes and duplexes before you get into high density adja-
cent to single family. This is not the zoning, but it is
what developers should be looking at.
Councilman Duffie asked Councilman Bauch to repeat his
recommendation.
Councilman Bauch said the decision of the Board should be to
eliminate Buildings 1 and 2, reduce Building 3 to one floor,
reduce Building 4 to two floors, reduce Building 17 to two
floors and reduce Building 18 to one floor. Buildings 1 and
2 slip up the hill and are in the high slide area. They will
have to do massive cutting into the side of the hill to get
them in. Building 1 is twenty feet from Slade Way, and you
will be looking at the full side view.
Attorney Haney reminded Council that this project is vested
to have its rights considered in conjunction with the zoning
code in affect at the time that the Building Permit
Application was filed. Under this, the density that is per-
mitted is higher than 108. You didn't receive any evidence
that this particular project did not meet the code with the
height and masses that are allowed. In order for Council to
make the their decision, he suggested, if they are going to
alter the buildings somehow they need to be very careful
about how the decision is phrased and the reasons given for
it. The Comprehensive Plan is carried into affect by the
zoning at the time, and the zoning to which this property is
vested permits 108 units. Council should look to see if
there are other alternatives which would meet what their con-
cern is without cutting out units. Screening might be a dif-
ferent alternative to soften the masses of the heights of the
buildings.
Council Member Harris asked Councilman Bauch how many units
would be eliminated. He said 24 units.
Council Member Harris asked if it was possible to put more
structures on the site to make up the additional units
without the mass on the edges.
Councilman Simpson indicated that if Buildings 1 and 2 are to
be eliminated, he would prefer to see a triplex /duplex propo-
sal for that section.
Attorney Haney reminded Council that under the Code there are
certain height regulations. Council has heard testimony
about the heights in connection with these buildings. The
criteria of the BAR is primarily aesthetic, primarily design
in nature versus regulating density and regulating specific
zoning code allowances for buildings. He asked Council to
consider this.
Councilman Bauch said it was not his intention to reduce den-
sity. It is his intention to reduce the mass at the tran-
sition point. Council is not going to redesign the site so
they can get them on there. They proposed this high mass
right at the transition point and this is where it has to be
reduced. Do we allow them to go back to the drawing board
and come back with an internal cluster?
Attorney Haney said Council can determine that the buildings
might be sited a little differently to reduce the massive
effect. Council needs to speak in terms of the criteria and
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Council Deliberations deal with reducing the mass; the buildings should be
(cont.) clustered more or spread out more versus going with a speci-
fic criteria in the zoning code in trying to alter those.
Councilman Bauch noted Mr. Beeler said the building heights
in the proposal are legal, but the law says you will protect
the adjacent higher zone.
Council President Morgan said there is no question in her
mind that Buildings 1, 3 and 18 do not provide for a tran-
sition to the single family houses in the neighboring area.
Attorney Haney said Council needs to be fairly specific about
what affect you want to achieve; how the applicant achieves
that affect is something Council does not have to be as spe-
cific about, although they can.
Council President Morgan stated that the BAR erred in that
they did not adequately look at the visual impact of that
kind of mass from the north and south.
Councilman Simpson said he has no problem with the 1, 2 step
on 3, 4, 17, 18; he does have a problem with eliminating
buildings 1 and 2.
Council Member Harris said she has a problem eliminating some
units. The court gave them 108 units and does not want to
see us back in court. If it means moving some of the units
together so there is less impact on the neighborhood, it
would be the method to use.
Councilman Bauch said he is willing to modify his request.
He is proposing that Buildings 1 and 3, which are 20 feet
from Slade Way, be one story buildings; they will look like a
two story house.
Attorney Haney clarified it is the basement which doesn't
count as a story and then one story. Councilman Bauch
agreed.
Councilman Bauch continued, Buildings 2 and 4, which are
immediately adjacent to those are two story buildings. They
would have four units in them. On the other end, 17 would be
a two story building and 18 is a one story building. This
eliminates 18 units unless they can find some way of putting
them on the interior of the site.
Council Member Harris had no problem with this proposal if
they can find some way of arranging them. I don't want us to
go back to court for something we know has already been given
to them. I'd like to find some way of taking care of this now
and do it legal.
Attorney Haney clarified the intention. It is not to reduce
the number of units. If they can still build 108 units on
the site, then that is fine. The intention is to reduce the
size of the buildings on the perimeter. They can make up the
units in the interior of the site.
Councilman Bauch agreed. If they add any other buildings,
they would have to come back to the BAR to see what the
affect of the interior buildings are.
Mayor Van Dusen asked if everyone agreed; we have consensus.
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Council Deliberations Councilman Bauch noted the second paragraph of A, Conclusion
(cont.) No. 2 on Page 5. The sentence that reads, "This provides a
scale which is comparable to a single family structure." If
this statement is left in, you need to add "as viewed from
the west."
2 -B. Appropriate landscape transition to adjoining proper-
ties should be provided.
Councilman Bauch said the Board of Architectural Review erred
in the appropriate landscape transition to adjoining proper-
ties. They provided 6 foot evergreens on 40 foot centers,
and this is totally inadequate.
There is a high density area immediately adjacent to single
family. Six foot high evergreens ought to be on 10 foot cen-
ters from 58th Street up the hill and down Slade Way to pro-
vide for the future demise of the older trees.
Council Member Harris said that 10 feet is too close; it only
leaves five feet for them to grow. She suggested 15 feet.
Mayor Van Dusen suggested having two rows of trees and
stagger them.
Councilman Bauch stated ten foot on center, staggered. There
would be one every ten feet, but every other one would be
set back.
Attorney Haney restated the intention and clarified the
evergreens would be twenty feet on center, two row,
staggered.
Council concurred.
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Councilman Bauch cited the sentence at the top of page 6
which concerned the installing of a maximum number of trees
which can be planted without diminishing slope stability and
said it should be deleted. Council Member Harris explained
why she did not agree.
Attorney Haney explained that the reasoning of the BAR was
that the slope tended to be steeper in the area of the alders
and where the evergreens were going to go in than it was
further back where the buildings were going to be.
Councilman Bauch said he is talking about the evergreens at
the top of the hill; they should be as close to the sidewalk
as possible so that when they are full grown, they won't be
over the sidewalk.
Council Member Harris expressed concern about the stability
of the slope. Plantings should not be put in that might
disturb it.
Councilman Bauch said put a requirement in that if they can't
plant the trees because of soils stability, they come back to
the BAR with a proposal where they are going to plant them.
Council Member Harris agreed.
Attorney Haney clarified the change to provide that if the
trees do create a problem with slope stability, the matter
would have to come back to the BAR for consideration of
appropriate screening to take the place of the trees.
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Council Deliberations Councilman Bauch confirmed it correct. Council agreed.
(cont.)
2 -C. Compatibility of vehicular pedestrian circulation pat-
terns and loading facilities in terms of safety, efficiency
and convenience should be encouraged.
Issue was not raised by the appellants.
2 -D. Compatibility of on -site vehicular circulation with
street circulation should be encouraged.
Issue was not raised by the appellants.
Condition 3. TMC 18.60.050(3): Landscape and Site
Treatment.
3 -A. Where existing topographic patterns contribute to
beauty and utility of a development, they should be
recognized, preserved and enhanced.
Issue was not raised by the appellants.
3 -B. Grades of walks, parking spaces, terraces, and other
paved areas should promote safety and provide an inviting and
stable appearance.
Issue was not raised by the appellants.
3 -C. Landscape treatment should enhance architectural
features, strengthen vistas and important axes, and provide
shade.
Council President Morgan referred to Exhibit 79 about noise
attenuating fences. She asked Council to discuss materials
and variety. Fences should be made of a more durable and
lasting material rather than wood.
Attorney Haney noted that the applicant proposed the weight
and certain characteristics of the fence -3 pounds per square
foot, no cracks or halves where noise could get through.
They said that plywood would look bad and there should be
some design criteria. He suggested that Council specify that
a fence (layout the criteria) be built and maintained and
that it be of a durable material which will last for the life
of the project.
Councilman Bauch felt they should accept the criteria spelled
out on Exhibit 79 from the Planning Department with the addi-
tion that it should be of materials that will last the life
of the project with normal maintenance and that the fence
should be off -set by a minimum of 2 feet on a minimum of 16
feet.
Council President Morgan added, Exhibit 62 and the City's
closing argument suggested that landscaping was needed along
the acoustical fence.
Council agreed with this.
RECESS:
9:30 -9:40 p.m. Mayor Van Dusen called the meeting back to order.
Refer Back to 3 -A. Council President Morgan said she would
accept the applicant's decision to move the play area from
the previous site to the modified Recreation A Site. Council
agreed.
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Council Deliberations 3 -D. In locations where plants will be susceptible to injury
(cont.) by pedestrian or motor traffic, mitigating steps should be
taken.
Issue was not raised by the appellant.
3 -E. Where building sites limit planting, the placement of
trees or shrubs in paved areas is encouraged.
Issue was not raised by the appellant.
3 -F. Screening of service yards and other places which tend
to be unsightly should be accomplished by use of walls,
fencing, planting or a combination of these. Screening
should be effective in winter and summer.
Same comments apply here that were made under the discussion
of the dumpsters.
3 -G. In areas where general planting will not prosper, other
materials such as fences, walls, and pavings of wood, brick,
stone, or gravel may be used.
Issue was not raised by the appellant.
3 -H. Exterior lighting, when used, should enhance the
building design and the adjoining landscape. Lighting stan-
dards and fixtures should be of a design and size compatible
with the building and adjacent area. Lighting should be
shielded and restrained in design. Excessive brightness and
brilliant colors should be avoided.
Issue was not raised by the appellants. The movement of the
play area took care of the concerns involving lighting.
Councilman Simpson expressed concern about the height of the
retaining walls on the south side. They are going to be
fairly high and the children will be climbing on them causing
a potential danger. Maybe some type of shrub would
discourage children from going through the area.
Councilman Bauch commented that if the Uniform Building Code
does not require it, then the conclusion should say that
walls over 40" high should have a restraint at the top.
Attorney Haney clarified that any retaining wall over 40"
which is accessible from either side should have a railing or
restraint at the top, and this should meet the requirements
of the Uniform Building Code if applicable. This should be
included under 3 -B, grades of walks, parking spaces, terraces
and other paved areas should promote safety and provide an
inviting and stable appearance.
Council concurred.
Conclusion 4. TMC 18.60.050(4): Building Design.
4 -A. Architectural style is not restricted, evaluation of a
project should be based on quality of its design and
relationship to surroundings.
Issue was not raised by the appellant.
4 -B. Buildings should be to appropriate scale and be in har-
mony with permanent neighboring developments.
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Council Deliberations Attorney Haney said the same comments would apply here on the
(cont.) elevations and mass of the buildings that were discussed
before.
Council agreed.
4 -C. Building components, such as windows, doors, eaves, and
parapets should have good proportions and relationship to one
another. Building components and ancillary parts shall be
consistent with anticipated life of the structure.
Issue was not raised by the appellant.
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4 -D. Colors should be harmonious, with bright or brilliant
colors used only for accent.
Issue was not raised by the appellant.
4 -E. Mechanical equipment or other utility hardware on roof,
ground or buildings should be screened from view.
Issue was not raised by the appellant.
4 -F. Exterior lighting should be part of the architectural
concept. Fixtures, standards an all exposed accessories
should be harmonious with building design.
Issue was not raised by the appellants.
4 -G. Monotony of design in single or multiple building pro-
jects should be avoided. Variety of detail, form, and siting
should be used to provide visual interest.
Councilman Bauch said this needs to be modified to reflect
the reduction of mass which also helps break up the monotony.
Council President Morgan said the appellants raised the issue
of the number of buildings sitting in a row with very little
to break up the sense of a solid line when viewed from the
east. The trees do this slightly. We should reference that
we have required additional landscaping on the east side.
Council agreed.
Condition 5. TMC 18.60.050(5): Miscellaneous structures and
Street Furniture.
There was nothing in Condition 5 that was addressed by the
appellants.
Attorney Haney reviewed the options Council has:
a. Approve the decision of the BAR as is.
b. Uphold the appeal, deny the project and send it back to
the BAR.
c. Approve the proposed project subject to certain con-
ditions that have been modified.
Council Member Harris asked for a consensus from Council on
accepting the proposed project subject to modifications
discussed at the table.
Council all agreed.
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Council Deliberations Attorney Haney suggested that in dealing with the masses of
(cont.) the buildings by requiring the stepping of the buildings,
Council retains jurisdiction and sets a short time frame for
them to come back with an alternative plan. Council agreed.
ADJOURNMENT
10:18 p.m.
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All agreed that six weeks is a reasonable time.
Councilman Bauch referred back to the Findings:
#5 indicates the density is 15.25. The R -1 was not used in
the density calculations; either you have to correct the den-
sity or correct that statement.
#8 indicates you have to qualify the elevations of the
roofline by saying the elevation is from Slade Way, from the
extreme west part of the property.
#12 still has the children's play area in the R -1 zone; it
has to be corrected.
MOVED BY MORGAN, SECONDED BY HARRIS, TO APPROVE THE PROJECT
WITH MODIFICATIONS AND CONDITIONS DISCUSSED AT THE TABLE
TONIGHT, TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FINDINGS AND
CONCLUSIONS AND A DECISION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT AND TO
ADJOURN TO CONSIDER THAT DECISION MONDAY NIGHT. MOTION
CARRIED.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY STOKNES, THAT THE MEETING
ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED.
GaryL. Van Dusen, Mayor
Maxine 'Anderson, City Clerk