HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-08-22 Committee of the Whole MinutesAugust 22, 1977
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL OF
COUNCIL MEMBERS
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Proposed Use of
Revenue Sharing Money
DISCUSSION
Bluff St. Hiking
Trail: Dames
Moore Report
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING Council Chambers
M I N U T E S
Council President Hill called the Committee of the Whole Meeting to
order at 7:03 P.M.
GARDNER, TRAYNOR, HILL, SAUL, PESICKA, VAN DUSEN, BOHRER.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING HELD AUGUST 8, 1977 BE APPROVED AS
PUBLISHED. CARRIED.
Council President Hill declared the Public Meeting open at
7:05 P.M.
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Mayor Bauch explained the Public Hearing had been scheduled for
input from the public as to proposed use of revenue sharing money.
Councilman Pesicka said a neighbor of hers likes to walk and had
expressed the opinion that the walks are nice but there are a lot
of places where they have to go from one side of the street to
another in order to stay on the walks. She would like to see longer
continuous walks. Councilman Saul said he liked the way the City
has used revenue sharing money; some cities have used their money
to pay wages. He said he was in favor of the use of the money
for such things as trails. Ernest Onorati, 5102 South 163rd Place,
Tukwila said he recommended the money be used for a new park site.
He thought there should be a tennis court or maybe a soccer field.
Leo Sowinski, Tukwila, expressed the opinion that a fence around
the new park would help keep debris out. Council President Hill
said if anyone has any ideas for the proposed use of revenue
sharing money they should notify any one of the City Council and
it will be considered. There are some rules as to what it can be
spent for. Mayor Bauch stated the money can be used for anything
that it is legal to spend money for. Councilman Gardner asked if
it can be used for water or sewer. Mayor Bauch stated it is likely
it can be used for that purpose. The amount of revenue sharing
money will be about $88,000.
Since there were no further comment, Council President Hill
declared the Public Hearing closed at 7:15 P.M.
Kjell Stoknes, OCD Director, stated a report had been received from
Dames and Moore on their observations and recommendations on Bluff
Street. The report states that in their opinion the cuts and fills
made during rough grading of the trail across the former slide
area could reactivate the slide. They recommended the following
procedures be undertaken immediately. (1) Remove obvious hazards,
including partially undermined trees which are immediately above
the trail and /or which could be dislodged by erosion. (2) Remove
as much of the fill as possible from below the trail within the
existing slide area and at any other locations where significant
fill concentrations occur. (3) All exposed soil areas should be
planted to minimize erosion. (4) Culverts and drainage diversion
devices should be installed along the trail to avoid concentration
of runoff as much as possible. They said they were proposing to
prepare design sketches and details of anchor design necessary to
construct a 2 to 6 foot high treated timber retaining wall for
portions of the Bluff Street trail. They estimate the cost will be
about $1,000 and the drawings and report can be ready in about
two weeks. Mr. Stoknes explained it will cost about $5,000 to do
the bulkhead work. Councilman Van Dusen expressed the opinion that
he felt since the City was responsible for the problem, they
should correct it. Mayor Bauch said if the construction costs over
$5,000 it will have to go out for bid. Mr. Stoknes said he would
have to get authorization from Mr. Popejoy to remove the trees and
drill under his property. Mr. Popejoy said he appreciates the
compassion the City has shown for his problem. He said he wrote
to the Mayor about the problem and still excavation was done. He
said in glancing at the Dames and Moore report he did not think the
work could be done for $5,000. He said he thought something more
should be done. He said he had watched the area stabilize in
recent years. Councilman Bohrer said he was amazed that the trees
should be cut down. To stabilize small areas you plant grass and
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
August 22, 1977
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DISCUSSION Contd.
Bluff St. Hiking
Trail: Dames
Moore Report contd.
Prop. Ord. Adopting
a new compr. land use
plan for the City
its defined planning
area
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ground cover and if it is a larger area you plant trees. He said
he had looked at the site and it seemed that a small amount of
earth had been moved. He asked if we are trying to fix something
the City has caused, or are we trying to fix a slide that has
existed for some time? Mr. Popejoy said he thought the excavation
by the City had caused the trouble and he hoped he did not have to
take the matter to court. Councilman Bohrer said he was concerned
about Mr. Popejoy's property. He had hiked the area before, the
excavation was made and since and it is small. When he walked
the trail there was a road cut most of the way down there. Mr.
Popejoy said before the cut was made there was vegetation. The
cut was made to a depth of five to six feet. He said he would get
another soil report on it. Councilman Bohrer suggested the
Council look at the property. Council President Hill said the
Council was in agreement that they want to prevent slides. Some-
thing should be done quickly as the rains may start any day.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT MR. STOKNES BE
AUTHORIZED TO HAVE DAMES AND MOORE PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN OF A
BULKHEAD AND THE CONSTRUCTION IF IT CAN BE DONE FOR LESS THAN
$5,000.
Councilman Van Dusen said he thought the City should work with Mr.
Popejoy since he is getting another report. Mr. Popejoy said he
looks at the bulkhead as an interim solution. Councilman Pesicka
said this is something to hold the hill for the winter. Council
President Hill said he felt this was not a permanent type solution
and if we wait for another analysis it will take some more time.
Councilman Bohrer said since this is an interim solution perhaps
Dames and Moore could indicate what a permanent solution would be.
Mayor Bauch said he would suggest if we have to put in a cement
bulkhead it would cost less to buy the entire hillside. Mr.
Stoknes said the City wants to go in there and solve the stability
problem.
*CARRIED.
Council President Hill stated they would hear from the audience
and consider letter that had been received regarding the new compre-
hensive land use plan. He introduced Robert Uhrich of Upland
Industries. Mr. Uhrich stated Union Pacific Land Resources Corp-
oration owns approximately 200 acres of property commonly referred
to as the Briscoe School Property in unincorporated King County.
The land area is bounded on the east by the West Valley Highway;
on the west by the Green River; on the north by the Tukwila
corporate boundary; and on the south by the Kent corporate boundary.
He said before development commences it will be necessary to annex
the property either to the City of Tukwila or the City of Kent.
He said because the property lies within the planning area boundary,
identified in the Tukwila "Preliminary Comprehensive Land -Use Plan,"
they are concerned about its possible land -use classification. He
said they would like to see the area along the river in trails.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE SPECIAL USE CLAS-
SIFICATION BE DROPPED AND ADD 50 FEET PARK AND OPEN SPACE DESIGNA-
TION DOWN TO RUSSELL ROAD AND BE A CONTINUATION OF THE GREEN STRIP.*
Councilman Bohrer asked Mr. Uhrich when the property was purchased.
Mr. Uhrich said about 1967 or 1968. Councilman Bohrer asked if
it had an agricultural use since then. Mr. Uhrich said he had a
maintenance agreement where an individual grazes his cattle and
clips the grass along the right -of -way.
*ROLL CALL VOTE: HILL, SAUL, PESICKA, VAN DUSEN VOTING YES.
GARDNER, TRAYNOR, BOHRER VOTING NO. MOTION CARRIED FOUR TO THREE.
Council President Hill read a letter from Frank Todd and R. Oldright
and petition signed by adjacent property owners. Mr. Todd showed
drawing of proposed multiple dwellings on his property. Councilman
Pesicka asked if there was only one access to the project and Mr.
Todd replied there were two. Councilman Van Dusen said it is in
our ordinance that people within 300 feet are to testify for or
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
August 22, 1977
Page 3
DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Ord. Adopting
a new compr. land use
plan for the City
its defined planning
area contd.
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against a proposal. Mr. Todd has covered all of the people around
his property. He said he thought the Council should take note
that this is within an area that is freeway on one side and shoppinc
center on another. Council President Hill said it is the aim of
the Council to prohibit pocket zoning. If you are going to have
multiple residential with commercial around it the residential
turns into a slum. Dennis Robertson, audience, said he was con-
cerned about the traffic that would be created by this proposal.
The owners of the land around Mr. Todd's would soon want their
land in apartments as they own more land than it is usual to use for
a home. Chris Crumbauch, representing Segale properties, said the
Segales would object to zoning any of their property as multiple
density. Councilman Traynor said the developers are after the
dollar. They live in areas where there are homes and they come to
Tukwila to develop their apartments and expect us to live next to
the apartments.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE AREA DESIGNED BY
MR. TODD BE CHANGED FROM LOW DENSITY TO MEDIUM DENSITY.
Mr. Todd stated this petition signed by the property owners around
his property has nothing to do with rezoning. His property is part
in Tukwila and part in the County. He said they have the option
of going to the County for rezone. If this designation is changed
Mr. Todd said they would immediately petition the City for annexa-
tion. He said they realized any use of the land would have to be
approved by the Council. Councilman Pesicka said she could
support medium density as long as the Council can control what is
built there. Councilman Bohrer said it appeared to him that
nothing new had been presented. He said the hill is steep and
traffic would be increased with development. Councilman Traynor
said if you take Canyon Estates and multiply it by 10 that will
be a lot of people to dump on that street.
ROLL CALL VOTE: GARDNER, TRAYNOR, SAUL, PESICKA, BOHRER VOTING NO.
HILL AND VAN DUSEN VOTING YES. MOTION FAILED, FIVE TO TWO.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE
WHOLE MEETING RECESS FOR TEN MINUTES. CARRIED.
The meeting was called back to order by Council President Hill
with all Council Members present as previously listed.
Council President Hill said the property in question now is next to
the proposed City Hall site up to 153rd Street. Councilman Van
Dusen said he would like to have a transitional area from residen-
tial to high density. He said he would propose making a
transition area from the crest of the hill. If the Council does
that they will be in accordance with the recommendations of the
original citizens group. Fred Satterstrom said he would propose
the medium density strip. His recommendation is that a medium
buffer strip be proposed along the borderline between single family
and high density. Medium density would be transitional in size and
scale. Councilman Saul said he agreed with the transition area
but he would like to see the buffer coming out of the brown and not
out of the residential area. Council President Hill said the
concern of the Council is that we do not have high rise face to
face with single family dwellings. Councilman Gardner said the
comprehensive plan is a plan for the future of the City and it is
not a zoning map. Councilman Bohrer said the Council agrees that
apartments should not come over the crest of the hill. He said he
agreed there should be a buffer zone.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT ITEMS 4 and 5 OF THE
AGENDA BE CONTINUED TO MONDAY, AUGUST 29, 1977, AND THE REST OF
THE AGENDA CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME. MOTION FAILED.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND
USE PLAN MAP BE CHANGED TO SHOW A TRANSITION AREA, CHANGING THE
YELLOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY TO 153RD OVER THE CREST OF THE HILL TO
MACADAM ROAD TO THE HIGH DENSITY DESIGNATION.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
August 22, 1977
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DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Ord. Adopting
a new compr. land use
plan for the City
its defined planning
area contd.
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Councilman Traynor said the definition of the brink of the hill
bothers him.
MOVED BY PESICKA, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, TO AMEND THE MOTION BY
GOING DOWN 153RD AND WHERE IT FOLLOWS THE CREST OF THE HILL BE 30
FEET AS IT FOLLOWS THE CREST OF THE HILL. ROLL CALL VOTE: TRAYNOR,
HILL, SAUL, BOHRER VOTING NO. GARDNER, PESICKA, VAN DUSEN VOTING
YES. AMENDMENT FAILED FOUR TO THREE.
*ROLL CALL VOTE: TRAYNOR, HILL, SAUL, BOHRER VOTING NO. GARDNER,
PESICKA, VAN DUSEN VOTING YES. MOTION FAILED FOUR TO THREE.
Mr. Black, audience, said he thought the diagonal line on the
Comprehensive Land Use Plan Map is awkward. He thought 153rd
makes a logical boundary. Allen Austin, attorney for Black and
Caldwell, said it seems the City would want some kind of a transi-
tory line, they want something that will lost and be good for the
next 30 years. Mr. Hacket, Boeing Engineers (Tukwila Associates),
said where the transition takes place is not on the ridge line per
the wall map. He said they have a good survey by a professional
and they would like to establish where the ridge line is located.
They thought there should be a buffer zone. Robert Thorpe, Tukwila
Associates, said they all agreed there should be a transitional
line. He said they would like to work with the City in deciding
the density as it nears the ridge. The Council will still be in
control of what is built. Mr. Stoknes said he would propose adding
a 200 foot conceptual strip on the north side and adjacent to the
ridge and when rezones come in we will consider them and fight it
out.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THERE BE A 200 FOOT
MEDIUM DENSITY TRANSITION ZONE THAT IN THE EVENTUALITY THAT ONE
COMES FOR A REZONE THE POLICY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BE THE
GUIDE LINES.
Mr. Hacket suggested the true ridge line be used. Councilman Bohrer
agreed that the ridge line should be established.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, TO AMEND THE MOTION BY STATING
THE NORTH BOUNDARY LINE BE 30 FEET ELEVATION BELOW THE RIDGE LINE.
ROLL CALL VOTE: GARDNER, HILL, PESICKA, VAN DUSEN VOTING NO.
TRAYNOR, SAUL, BOHRER VOTING YES. AMENDMENT TO MOTION FAILED FOUR
TO THREE.
*ROLL CALL VOTE: GARDNER, TRAYNOR, SAUL, BOHRER VOTING NO. HILL,
PESICKA, VAN DUSEN VOTING YES. MOTION FAILED FOUR TO THREE.
Mr. Jack Bryant, architect representing owners of property located
at 53rd Avenue South and South 160th (Jack Anderson and Glen Butler)
stated he had appeared before the Council the previous week and his
waiver from Resolution No. 489 had been refused. He said his client
had tests showing there is not slide evidence on this property.
President Carter has requested us to conserve energy by living
closer to where we work. There is a need for apartments to accom-
plish this. A person would not want to live that close to the
freeway in a single family residence. Councilman Bohrer said during
the City Council tour of the area they saw $60,000 to $80,000
houses being built on the property overlooking the freeway. Leo
Sowinski, audience, said he lived in the area that Mr. Bryant has
spoken of and he has seen parts of it washed out year after year.
Mr. Bryant said if water washes out it is something the City should
take care of. It is nothing that should condemn the property.
Council President Hill said a letter had been received from Hometel
Corporation concerning their property located at 14800 Interurban
Avenue. In the letter they stated they understood their property
fronting the Village Green Hometel is proposed to be rezoned from
commercial to high density residential. They requested the Council
reconsider the proposed changed zoning and allow the existing
commercial zone to remain as it is. They purchased the property
to construct new office, restaurant, and lounge. It seems un-
reasonable for the site to be high density residential since
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
August 22, 1977
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DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Ord. Adopting
a new compr. land use
plan for the City
its defined planning
area contd.
ADJOURNMENT
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they would be able to construct only 17 units over the 660 foot
frontage. Councilman Van Dusen said he thought everything along
Interurban should be commercial.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE STRIP OF LAND IN
FRONT OF THE VILLAGE GREEN MOTEL ON THE EAST SIDE OF INTERURBAN BE
DESIGNATED COMMERICAL RATHER THAN HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY PESICKA, TO AMEND THE MOTION AND
CHANGE ALL OF THE BROWN ON THE EAST SIDE OF INTERURBAN AND BACK
TO THE RIVER TO RED TO INDICATE COMMERCIAL. CARRIED.
*MOTION CARRIED, AS AMENDED.
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MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE FORMER PUGET POWER
RIGHT -OF -WAY NOW IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP SOUTH OF THE VILLAGE GREEN
BE CHANGED TO RED. CARRIED.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE 200 FEET STRIP OR
BASE OF THE SLOPE ON THE WEST SIDE OF INTERURBAN BE COMMERICAL.
CARRIED.
Mr. Bradley, audience, asked about the results of the noise
survey. Councilman Van Dusen said it will be September 1 before
the results are obtained, but he hopes to have some information
available for the Public Hearing of the Public Safety and Health
Committee on Thursday, August 25.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT THE TWO PIECES OF
PROPERTY ON HIGHWAY 99 BE PUT BACK TO COMMERCIAL. CARRIED, WITH
HILL VOTING NO.
Council President Hill said the remainder of the agenda items,
starting with Item 5, would be continued to August 29, 1977 at
7:00 P.M.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
ADOPTING A NEW COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AS AMENDED, BE ON THE
AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 6, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED.
New City Hall Mayor Bauch said he had signed the contract and the contractor
would start the new City Hall next Monday, August 29, 1977. He
said he would like input on the ground breaking ceremonies, as
guests will be invited to attend.
Public Hearing Councilman Van Dusen said he would like to have as many of the
Public Safety Committee Council Members as possible present at the Public Hearing of the
Public Safety and Health Committee on August 25, 1977 at 4:00 P.M.
when they discuss an ordinance relating to coin operated devices.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE
WHOLE MEETING RECESS UNTIL 7:00 P.M. ON AUGUST 29, 1977. CARRIED.
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Norma" Booher, Recording Secretary