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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-09-12 Committee of the Whole MinutesSeptember 12, 1977 7:00 P.M. DISCUSSION Prop. Ord. Estab. procedures for review of proj. inconsistent with the new Compr. Land Use Plan TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING M I N U T E S City Hall Council Chambers In the Approval of the Minutes of the September 12, 1977 Committee of the Whole Meeting at the September 26, 1977 Committee of the Whole Meeting Councilman Bohrer said he felt the description of the discussion that took place when the proposed ordinance establishing procedures for review of projects inconsistent with the new Comprehensive Land Use Plan was brief and did not reflect all of the comments of the audience. The following is a verbatim transcript from the tape on this subject. Kjell Stoknes, OCD Director, said the proposed ordinance contains the latest wording by the City Attorney. He said he would like to discuss with the Council their main concerns. Councilman Pesicka said the thing she did not like about the ordinance was that it only affects that property that does not agree with the Comprehensive Map. The fact that Mr. Skarbo had to come to the Council and show them what he was going to do shows that. It is not going to stop another Canyon Estate from going in, and it is not going to stop another warehouse like there is down on Interurban behind Mr. Hartong's place. If that property is already zoned that way nothing has to come to the Council. Mr. Stoknes said Interurban Avenue along that stretch showed as commercial and under this proposal that warehouse would have had to come before the Council. If it is consistent with the zoning and the map it would not have to come before the Council. Councilman Pesicka said this upset her because we do not have an open space ordinance. We are trying to develop a policy and this does not answer that problem. Mr. Stoknes said the open space that the Council asked for last December or January is in this packet and can be adopted at the next Council meeting. He said he thought this would minimize the starknes of the apartments. Councilman Van Dusen said if you look at this it is really a zoning map. Mr. Stoknes said the best way to demonstrate the effect of this ordinance is to take a piece of property that is zoned. We will take the area directly south of the Tukwila Elementary School some is single family, some medium density, and some high density. If an individual came in and applied for a building permit, the project would have to come before the Council. That is one you are comfortable with. Another example would be the area just north of the new City Hall. That is consistent on the zoning map in apartments, it is also the same thing on the Comprehensive Plan, at least a portion of it. In that case we would use the zoning ordinance, analyze it under the zoning ordinance, and act on it without coming to the City Council. It is a zoning func- tion. If you did not want it to be apartment zoning and it was a piece you were concerned about you would probably show some other designation on it. What you are saying is when it is in a high density area it is not going to affect the single family area, it is going to be buffered by something. Councilman Pesicka said it seems like this makes a set of rules for some people but others will not have to follow them. Mr. Stoknes said that is true. People who are consistent with the map and have the zoning will not have to come and justify their proposal before the Council. That way everyone will understand the rules. It gives Council the opportunity to mold the community and how it is developed. Council President Hill said one thing bothered him. For instance, the Blackwell property is zoned R -4, if they came in and just a corner up here is zoned R -1, the Staff could make the decision as to whether or not there would be apartments. If it is a larger piece over here, like the Graydon Smith, it would have to come from the Council. It does not seem to be consistent. Mr. Stoknes said probably a better example would have been the piece of property to the west where the whole piece is consistent. Council President Hill said if it is zoned R -3 and they came in for R -4, what? Mr. Stoknes said then they would have to come to the Council and apply for a rezone. Fred Satterstrom, Planning, said they had thought the Council would want to make their decisions on those actions that were inconsistent with the Comprehensive Plan, not those actions that were consistent with the land use map. Right now, Resolution No. 489 is causing an increase in the staff load as far as preparing staff reports. We felt if we were going to be shackled with reviewing each application, in fact almost every building permit for staff report on a waiver request, even actions that would be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan, he doubted they would have manpower to do that. Mr. Stoknes said this proposal would only bring about 10 to 15 percent of the building permits to the Council. Council President Hill said what Staff is saying then as an example on 152nd and Macadam Road which is indicated as high density and if TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING September 12, 1977 Page 2 DISCUSSION Contd. Prop. Ord. Estab. procedures for review of proj. inconsistent with the new Compr. Land Use Plan contd. someone came in with a permit to build 40 to 50 units per acre the Council would likely never see it, it could be handled by Staff. Mr. Stoknes said that is correct. He continued the real reason, the weakness for that, is the fact that the high density apartment area does not have an upper limit. It just says 17 plus. If the Council put an upper limit on that and said 17 through 28, then if it were higher it would come before the Council. Council President Hill said it looks like it would be nice to have condominiums and town house type buildings with what we have now. Could R -4 and RMH be limited with height and open space requirements? Mr. Stoknes said in zoning that is a very typical way to hold the density down. Councilman Van Dusen said he was trying to get this ordinance clearer so he could vote for it. He said he thought this type of ordinance was needed with the Comprehen- sive Plan. He wished the Council had been working on this ordinance all along with the Comprehensive Plan. He said he was worried about the phrase "present community values." He doubted anyone could tell what the present community values are. He said in Paragraph 5 he would sug- gest it read: "WHEREAS, it is clear that the zoning map for the City of Tukwila no longer reflects the Comprehensive Plan of the community, its legislative body and currently- recognized state of the art of planning." He also asked about Section 3, last paragraph, where it states building permits for single family homes are exempt from the provisions of this ordinance. He asked why just them? Is it meant they cannot be detrimental? Councilman Traynor said unless things are changed you can build R -1 anywhere in the City, except in recreation. Councilman Van Dusen said he thought if they had to do the map all over again, he did not think they could come out with things very different. Mr. Stoknes said the reason they made building permits exempt for single family homes is because of the Shoreline Management Act which the Council adopted. State law prohibits building permits for single family homes within the shoreline. Whenever they come up with some- thing of this nature they look back and see if there is something to go by. He suggested changing the wording in Section 1, Policy State- ment. He said he also agreed with Councilman Van Dusen's suggestion for the change in the fifth paragraph. Chris Crumbaugh, audience, said you have adequate control under the Shoreline Management Act so he would propose that anything shown within 200 feet of the river is in an environmental sensitive area and would not have to come for a waiver because you already have that control. In Section 3 (1) that is a section that says what comes before the Council, and it says land use actions which are inconsistent with the new Comprehensive Land Use Plan Map. If a person came in with a commercial use under the indus- trial zoning and shows commercial on that map even though the zoning says industrial, is that inconsistent? He would say it would not be and he would like some kind of clarification that would recognize that. Mr. Stoknes said the legend in the Comprehensive Plan under Light Industrial says that areas characterized by light manufacturing uses, commercial and office and offices. He said he did not see any problems with the wording. It does not change the meaning. Mr. Crumbaugh said he would not request a change in the wording if that is the intent of the meaning. Mr. Stoknes said he thought Mr. Crumbaugh's concern is tha Staff should not have the right to determine what is compatible in that area until that particular subject is worked out under the zoning ordinance. That is the way it should be. Dennis Robertson, audience, referring to Section 5 (3), said there seems to be some confusion. He said he felt the word "no" should be inserted between "that" and "other. Councilman Van Dusen said he would like Mr. Stoknes to explain Sec- tion 5 (6). Mr. Stoknes said basically it is saying would granting a waiver to a proposal be such a policy commitment that it would take away from the zoning ordinance efforts. He said he thought in reading this the policies have already been made with the Comprehensive Land Map. Those are the policies. When you get to zoning they are much more specific. Fred Satterstrom, Office of Community Development, said he might be able to clarify it. He referred to the Anderson rezone about a year ago. This was the criteria that was applied to it. The Anderson rezone was rezoned to C -2 along Southcenter Parkway. At that time it appeared from all of the maps that the Council had seen that had been proposed by the Planning Commission and the citizen groups that it would be commercially designated along Southcenter Parkway. Now Anderson came in for a rezone along an area that it seemed was inevitable to go commercial on Southcenter Parkway, because of the land use pattern, because of the zoning pattern, and because of the way the TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING September 12, 1977 Page 3 DISCUSSION Contd. Prop. Ord. Estab. procedures for review of projects inconsistent with the new Compre. Land Use Plan contd. City was looking at land use at that time. It almost would have been an imposition to the property owner not to recognize the fact that the area was going to be commercial, and that the designation for the rezoning of the property along Southcenter Parkway to C -2 to commercial to allow the use he had specified would not have been a major policy that would have committed the City to considering that type of land use all along Southcenter Parkway. The City was already thinking that way. We are asking that if the Council could make a decision on the property as to whether or not a certain action should take place on the property because it would not make a commitment as to how you would approach zoning in that area later on. Then perhaps that action was alright. If a person came in for a waiver for an apartment building in an area that he had zoning for but the Comprehen• sive Plan had it designated single family I would think that the Council would be committing themselves as far as the policy decision is concerned for its future zoning area if they would approve that waiver, but if the property owner came in for say 16 to 18 units along the perimeter of say a medium density strip the Council may not be making a major policy commitment for its future zoning. Mr. Stoknes said he thought this was also encompassed within Item 5 of Section 5. Councilman Bohrer said since we are talking about zoning we still have the capability of applying conditions on zoning as we have on past zoning actions. Mr. Stoknes said Mr. Crumbaugh made a couple of statements that he would like to respond to. He talked about single family dwellings being developed in an environmental sensitive area. He said he thought that was a point well taken. You can grade in a steep area. Also, he talked about the slash marks on the land use map requiring a waiver along the Green River. Actually those slash marks do not require a waiver, it is under the Shoreline Management Act. He mentioned standards of denial and there should be separate ones for sensitive areas. Rather than make this ordinance cumbersome they had felt that to improve the concept that Item 5 of Section 5 should be added. Councilman Bohrer said in Item 4 of Section 5 he thought there should be some qualifier for "mitigating measures." He suggested the word "sufficient" be inserted between "that" and "mitigating." Councilman Gardner said even goals are changing. The government spent 40 years in grants moving people out of the cities and now they are spending money moving them back. John Merrick, audience, said his question was do we assume from the statement on waivers that if these conditions are met that rezoning in an area is going to be automatic with or without the awareness and opinions of the adjacent property owners. Mr. Stoknes said this ordinance does not address rezoning. The zoning ordinance requires that adjacent property owners be notified. Mr. Merrick said the notifications are not reaching them. He said the triangle on 65th Street is under consideration for rezoning at the present time and notification was not legal and proper for this. We need certified return receipts. Chris Crumbaugh, audience, said if a valid attempt is made to notify property owners he felt that would satisfy legal requirements. Council President Hill said in making motions on the proposed ordinanc they would start with Paragraph (1) and go right through it. He said it was acceptable through the fourth paragraph and the followng motions were made to reflect desired changes. (See Minutes of the Tukwila City Council Committee of the Whole Meeting dated September 12, 1977, Pages 1945 and 1946.) Norita,pooher, Recording Secretary September 12, 1977 TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL 7:00 P.M. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES CALL TO ORDER Council President Hill called the Committee of the Whole Meeting to order ROLL CALL OF GARDNER, TRAYNOR, HILL, PESICKA, VAN DUSEN, BOHRER. COUNCIL MEMBERS /99S City Hall Council Chambers APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22 AND AUGUST 29, 1977 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETINGS BE APPROVED AS PUBLISHED. CARRIED. DISCUSSION Prop. Ord. Request for re- zone from R -1 to C -2 by Peter Skarbo for property located north of Puget Power Substation on the west side of Southcenter Pkwy. Prop. Ord. Estab. procedures for review of proj. inconsistent with the new Comp. Land Use Plan MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE AGENDA BE AMENDED SO THE MATTER OF THE POLICE STATION CLOSURE CAN BE CONSIDERED AS ITEM 4 (B). CARRIED. Kjell Stoknes, OCD Director, explained the location of the proposed rezone application. He stated the Planning Commission had recommended the reclassification of the property with some stipulations. This being in the event that development of the property affect the land area above approximate 35 feet elevation, a grading and reclamation plan consistent with Chanter 70 of the Uniform Building Code and a reclamation bond posted with the City of Tukwila in an amount equal to 150% of the estimated cost of reclamation shall be required prior to issuance of the Building Permit. That development of the site shall include a pedestrian sidewalk of five feet in width. That the forced main sewer connection line be installed in accordance with City of Tukwila stand- ards at the full expense of the property owner. Operation and mainten- ance of the pump and sewage force main shall be at the expense of the owner. At such time as a L.I.D. is formed the property will agree to participate in such L.I.D. A charge in lieu of assessment to be paid to the City at a rate to be established by the final assessment roll of L.I.D. No. 27. On -site construction shall conform to the height, yard, and area restrictions and architectural review of the Tukwila Municipal Code. Mr. John Markinson, representing the Skarbos, stated they are agreeable to the conditions that have been imposed. Councilman Bohrer said when this matter was discussed earlier there was a question about the placement of the building. Mr. Stoknes said the location of the building had been approved. Councilman Gardner asked if this is going to be a retail store. Mr. Stoknes said it was. Council President Hill asked about fire protection. Mr. Fred Satterstrom, Planning Assistant, said the Fire Department reported they would not have any problems. MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 19, 1977 REGULAR MEETING OF THE TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL. CARRIED. Kjell Stoknes, OCD Director, said the ordinance being considered is the latest wording by the City Attorney. He explained the latest wording and gave examples of its use. He stated this ordinance gives the City Council the opportunity to mold the community and how it is to be developed. Council President Hill asked questions about the application of this ordinance. He said the definition of "present community values" bothered him. Various parts of the proposed ordinance were discussed and explained by Mr. Stoknes. Councilman Bohrer referred to Item 4 under Section 5 and said he thought there should be some qualification for "mitigating measures." He suggested the wording be "sufficient mitigating measures." John Merrick, audience, asked if adjoining proper= ties were notified when rezoning is requested. Mr. Stoknes said they were. Mr. Merrick said the notifications were not reaching the owners. He suggested the use of certified mail with a return receipt. Chris Crumbaugh, audience, said it was his impression if a valid attempt at notification was made that was acceptable. MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT PARAGRAPH 5 OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE READ AS FOLLOWS: "WHEREAS, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE ZONING MAP FOR THE CITY OF TUKWILA NO LONGER REFLECTS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE COMMUNITY, ITS LEGISLATIVE BODY, AND CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED STATE OF THE ART OF PLANNING." CARRIED. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING September 12, 1977 Page 2 DISCUSSION Contd. Prop. Ord. Estab. procedures for review of proj. inconsistent with the new Comp. Land Use Plan Contd. RECESS 9:05 9:25 P.M. Ltr. from Burlington No. Police Station Closure MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT SECTION 1, POLICE STATEMENT, BE WORDED AS FOLLOWS: "ALL SEGMENTS OF THE CITY, INCLUDING THE CITY COUNCIL, ITS ADVISORY BODIES AND THE ADMINISTRATION ARE DIRECTED TO BEGIN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP USING THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE POLICIES, PLANS, AND MAPS AS A GUIDE." CARRIED. MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT PARAGRAPH 2 OF SECTION 3 BE WORDED AS FOLLOWS: "BUILDING PERMITS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE EXEMPT FROM THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE." CARRIED. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT ITEM 1 OF SECTION 5 BE DELETED. CARRIED. MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT ITEM 3 OF SECTION 5 READ AS FOLLOWS: "THAT NO OTHER REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES ARE AVAILABLE WHICH WOULD NOT REQUIRE A WAIVER." CARRIED. MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT ITEM 4 OF SECTION 5 HAVE THE WORD "SUFFICIENT" INSERTED BETWEEN "THAT" AND "MITIGATING" IN THE FIRST LINE. CARRIED. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, AS AMENDED, BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 19, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED. MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING RECESS FOR TEN MINUTES. CARRIED. The meeting was called back to order by Council President Hill with Council Members present as previously listed. MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE LETTER FROM BURLINGTON NORTHERN BE READ AND CONSIDERED AS ITEM 4 (A) OF THE AGENDA. CARRIED. Council President Hill read the letter from Burlington Northern regarding the Glacier Park Company property lying east of the Burlington Northern tracks and south of Longacres. They wished reconsideration of the proposed down zoning of this property from heavy industrial to light industrial. Mayor Bauch said the property is zoned M -1 so the letter is in error. Fred Satterstrom, Planning Assistant, said that is true it is light industrial and the M -2 classification does not conform to the City of Renton's M -2 zoning. The property is not being down zoned. The light industrial does conform and does not represent a down zoning. MOVED BY PESICKA, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT ADMINISTRATION BE DIRECTED TO BRING THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UP TO DATE BY PUTTING IN COLOR FOR THE PARK IN MCMICKEN HEIGHTS. CARRIED. MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ADOPTING A NEW COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FOR THE CITY AND ITS DEFINED PLANNING AREA PURSUANT TO R.C.W. 35A.63.061, AND REPEALING THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE 347, 484, AND 768 BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 19, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED. Councilman Van Dusen said this matter was discussed at the Public Safety and Health Committee Public Hearing. At that hearing it was brought out that the police station is a refuge and when it is closed at night it is an inconvenience to the citizens. He said money has not been budgeted to keep it open 24 hours a day, but he felt sure the money can be found to accomplish it. He said petitions have been circulated, which he did not originate. He read the petition that had been circulated. He said he thought the police station had been closed due to a misunderstanding. Officer Tom Kilburg said he was speaking in behalf of the Tukwila Police Officers Association in an effort to present their feelings. He said the officers meet the people and see their needs. He cited instances where lives were likely saved because the police station was open and could offer aid. He said the police station is where you go for help and safety and you expect it to be open. Councilman Van Dusen said he had invited Officer Kilburg to attend this meeting and offer information. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING September 12, 1977 Page 3 DISCUSSION Contd. Police Station Closure contd. Councilman Traynor asked what personnel would be needed to keep the sta- tion open 24 hours a day without taking officers off the street. Mayor Bauch said it would take two people, the number that were reduced when we went to Valley Comm. Robert Conner, police officer, said when a person has a problem it is real to them. In a stress situation people remember a place like the police station. Ed Robinson, audience, said he has been followed up the hill from Southcenter and he knew if he kept coming up the hill he would come to the police station. Diane Johnson, audience, said she has been a resident of Tukwila for 19 years and she has never had occasion to call the Police Department. In the past she has taken walks at 2 a.m. and had known she could do so safely. She has stopped by the police station and told them she was out walking. She said she had taken a petition around requesting the police station be open 24 hours a day. About 95% of the people have been in favor of the police station being open. She said right now criminals know Tukwila is not a safe place to ply their trade. Frank Todd, audience, said he thought the City Council should act on the testimonies that have been given. He thought the necessary personnel should be hired. Ed Robinson, audience, said there are other areas where money could be saved. There is a band playing in the park and maps are done in multi color, all of this is expensive. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT ADMINISTRATION MAKE THE NECESSARY ARRANGEMENTS TO MAN THE POLICE STATION TWENTY -FOUR HOURS A DAY. Councilman Van Dusen said the money will have to be budgeted. Mayor Bauch stated we are talking about $30,000 a year. Mae Harris, City Treasurer, asked if the personnel hired would be part -time or full -time. Councilman Traynor said it did not matter as long as the police station is manned 24 hours a day. *CARRIED. V7 Interior Decorator Mayor Bauch said it is necessary to know whether the interior of the for City Hall City Hall will be done by a decorator, or by salesmen pitches. He said we had been willing to accept the architect's decision regarding the functional part of the engineering and he thought we should listen to the recommendations of the architect regarding the interior decoration Tom Emrich, Mithun Associates, said it was his hope that the City would seek the assistance of professional help in the matter of interior dec- orating. He said under their contract space help can be given. Interior designers can provide space planning and design that is needed. Another plan would be to make all of the decisions regarding interior design in- house. He said he felt this would be a mistake. It would take a lot of time. Councilman Pesicka said the City hired Mithun because they liked the inside and outside of their buildings. She thought the Council should respect their recommendations. Mr. Emrich said they could make recommendations. If the City wants them to provide this function they will do so. Council President Hill asked about the fee. Mr. Emrich said most interior designers work on a percentage basis or an hourly basis percentage is usually 12 to 15 percent of the finished cost. The City has acquired some furniture that could be reused. Mae Harris, City Treasurer, asked about carpets and draperies. Mr. Emrich said the draperies are slatted blinds and they would be part of the building. He said if the City has his firm proceed with this they would hire a consul- tant to help them. The actual design would involve space planning. The actual design would involve space planning. He said his firm could be hired on a separate contract or under the existing contract. ,.To proceed under the existing, it would be at an hourly rate plus some costs. It would authorize them to hire a consultant and the cost would be borne by the City. Councilman Van Dusen said he would like some money. figures. Mayor Bauch said he felt there should be some kind of a lid on the fur- nishings. Money has been allocated for interior design plus the carpet. MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT ADMINISTRATION DRAW UP A RESOLUTION TO CONTRACT WITH MITHUN AND ASSOCIATES FOR INTERIOR DESIGN AND SPACE NEEDS AND IT BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 19, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING September 12, 1977 Page 4 DISCUSSION CONTD. Ltr. from Jim Ewins, McDonald's Restaurant Prop. Ord. defin- ing Recreation Space stds. for provision of recreation space Call for Bid Thorndyke Sr. Ctr. Prop. Ord. Approp. tsfr. of funds to adjust certain unanticipated expenses Unified Weather ization Program Seminar 7 MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY PESICKA, TO AMEND THE AGENDA AND CONSIDER LETTER FROM JIM EWINS, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR MCDONALDS RESTAURANT. CARRIED. Mr. Jim Ewins said he requested by letter that the City Council water committee intercede in what they consider to be an arbitrary requirement of Chief Crawley in regards to the installation of a fire hydrant on the west side of Southcenter Parkway. He said the owner of the property has indicated that the intent of the City was to have located fire hydrants at the stubs provided in the water main on the east side of Southcenter Parkway. Two such locations are closer than 300 feet from the furtherest portion of their building. They suggest that an east side location would be in conformance with Ordinance No. 729. He said to their knowledge, this would be the only location in the City required to install hydrants on both sides of the street wherein the structure is within 300 feet of a hydrant. He said their location adjacent to the freeway precludes construction of structures west of them which would need fire protection. They have concern for fire protection but it does not appear beneficial to expend upwards of $7,000 above the cost of domestic water for a hydrant just 70 feet closer to the building. Councilman Traynor asked if there are hydrants on both sides of the street. Mr. Ewins said they are all on the east side. Councilman Van Dusen suggested the Council have discussion with the Fire Department and the office engineer. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT THE MATTER BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 19, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, THAT THE FIRE CHIEF BE IN ATTENDANCE, AND IT BE SCHEDULED IN THE EARLY PART OF THE MEETING SO MR. EWINS WILL NOT HAVE TO WAIT SO LONG FOR HIS MATTER TO BE DISCUSSED. CARRIED. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 26, 1977 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. CARRIED. Mr. Kjell Stoknes, OCD Director, explained the call for bids for the Thorndyke Senior Center project. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE MATTER BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 19, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 19, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED. Mayor Bauch said the weatherization program has just started on the program for 1976 -1977, but it is necessary to plan ahead for the 1978-1979 program. It is necessary to have a resolution or council motion authorizing the City to enter into the agreement. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY PESICKA, THAT ADMINISTRATION DRAW UP A RESOLUTION OR COUNCIL MOTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM. CARRIED. Mayor Bauch reminded the Council that a Seminar would be held on Wednesday, September 14, 1977 at 7 p.m. Vacany on Park Bd. Mayor Bauch stated Velma Lee had resigned from the Park Board and a replacement would be needed. Noise Survey Councilman Van Dusen said the results of the noise survey would be discussed at the next Committee of the Whole Meeting on September 26, 1977. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING Septermber 12, 1977 Page 5 DISCUSSION Contd. Plaque for City Councilman Traynor suggested the plaque for the new City Hall be ordered. Hall Police Station Closure Bluff Street Bulkhead ADJOURNMENT 11:15 P.M. MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT ADMINISTRATION HAVE A SKETCH FOR A PLAQUE FOR THE NEW CITY HALL MADE UP AND IT BE PRESENTED AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 26, 1977. CARRIED. John McFarland, Administrative Assistant, said he felt he should say something about the police station closure. He said he had been listening to employees, as Personnel Officer, agonizing about the closure of the police station. As the Administrative Assistant he had been listening to citizens agonize over it. A couple of things came to mind: This matter was presented to the Council last year during budget hear- ings as a cost saving move. Several alternatives and their expected outcomes were weighed by the Council. They, as a body, chose to make the decision to go to Valley Comm concept and reduce the staffing of the Police Department. It has been the opinion of many employees that it was the decision of Administration to do this and they had not argued that. He said tonight he had the distinct feeling from the audience and the Council that the Administration had made a mistake. He said he felt the Council should have prefaced their remarks tonight with "We made a mistake." The feeling seems to be, in talking to the people in the parking lot, that Mayor Bauch was unwise in doing what we did and "we sure showed him." He did not think that was the purpose or intent of what happened during budget hearings last year. The experiment the Chief of Police and the Mayor made to reduce staff was a decision the Council made. He said he thought the Council was somewhat negligent, maybe that is too strong of a word, in not expressing their part in going to Valley Comm. He said this is something he felt he should say out of loyalty to his boss and being very close to the problem through- out the establishment of Valley Comm and the attempt to find an accept- able level of staffing for the Police Department, and the agonizing that has come from the personnel, the citizens, and Mr. Van Dusen. Apparently the decision that was made was the incorrect one, but it was a joint decision. He said he did not get that feeling here tonight, perhaps he was wrong and if he was he apologized. He said this is something that he personally felt he had to say. Council President Hill said this is fine but speaking for himself he, in no way felt the police station would ever be closed due to cutting two personnel. Councilman Pesicka said that was her thought, too. Councilman Van Dusen said he felt it was a communication problem. He thought they agreed to keep it open all of the time. Mr. McFarland said he remembered the discussion on Valley Comm and there would be a reduction of staff. Councilman Pesicka said she remembered that, but she did not remember anything about the doors to the police station being locked. Councilman Traynor said in no way did he visualize everyone would be on the day shift and no one on the night shift he knew there would be a cut in manpower. He said he visualized one on graveyard and one on second shift in order to keep the police station open. He said he was not pointing a finger at anyone because he knew a decision was made to cut the staff. Mr. McFarland said he wanted them to know there was a great deal of concern on the part of his office as Personnel Officer and the part of the Chief of Police office in trying to find a workable level of staffing and still keep within the budget. There was the emotional involvement of the community. He said there is need of more communica- tion and he would be more than happy to make himself available day or evening. Council President Hill said the first he knew of the police station closure was when he saw the phone being installed. *The above topic has been transcribed verbatim upon the request of Council President Hill. Councilman Bohrer asked about the status of the bulkhead for Bluff Street. Kjell Stoknes, OCD Director, said it looks stable and he will make a report at the Committee of the Whole Meeting on September 26. MOVED BY PESICKA, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING ADJOURN. CARRIED. 1 Norrha Booher, Recording Secretary