HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-04-24 Committee of the Whole MinutesApril 24, 1978
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL OF
COUNCIL MEMBERS
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES
DISCUSSION
1978 AWC Conven-
tion Voting
Delegates
Foster Golf Links
Recommendations
of the Golf
Course Committee
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
M I N U T E S
Council President Van Dusen called the Tukwila City Council Committee
of the Whole Meeting to order.
BOHRER, HARRIS, HILL, JOHANSON, SAUL, TRAYNOR, VAN DUSEN.
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City Hall
Council Chambers
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 10,
1978 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING BE APPROVED AS PUBLISHED. CARRIED.
Call for Bids for MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE CALL FOR BIDS FOR 1978
1978 Str. Maint. STREET MAINTENANCE PROJECT BE SET FOR MAY 22, 1978 AT 10:00 A.M.
Proj. (Rehabili-
tation of Strander Terry Monaghan, Director of Public Works, said this bid was for repair
Blvd. from work on Strander Boulevard from Andover Park West to Christensen Road,
Andover Pk. W. to removing overlay and tearing out sections of curb and replacement.
Christensen Mayor Bauch said this repair would eliminate the dips and swells in the
Rd.) Date rec.
May 22, 1978 at
10:00 A.M.
street.
CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT MAYOR BAUCH BE ONE OF THE
DELEGATES TO THE 1978 AWC CONVENTION. CARRIED.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT COUNCILMAN TRAYNOR BE ONE OF THE
DELEGATES TO THE 1978 AWC CONVENTION. CARRIED.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT COUNCILMAN SAUL BE ONE OF THE
DELEGATES TO THE 1978 AWC CONVENTION. CARRIED.
Kjell Stoknes, OCD director, said the Golf Course Committee recommended
Golf Management and Planning, Inc. be retained to manage the course.
The Committee thought the City should select someone who would take
over the entire management of the golf course. Councilman Dan Saul said
the committee met for several hours on Tuesday and Thursday. He said
the City can get a guarantee from a company if they are given a four to
five year lease. Bill Smith, audience, said he sat in on the committee.
He said the golf course vote came up two years ago, it took two years
to get it started, and now we are trying to decide how to run it in one
week. Councilman Saul said Golf Management and Planning, the firm
selected, is presenting running five golf courses, they show a good
record, and their buying power seems to be good. Bill Smith, audience,
said he felt the golf course was going to be put into the hands of some-
one the City does not know. He suggested the City keep Ben Aliment to
manage the golf course for one year, at least. He knows the course and
can do a good job for the City and make a profit.
Craig McMicken, Foster and Marshall, said he had made an analysis of the
proposals that have been submitted. Proposals had been received from
two companies to lease the golf course: Dan Puetz and Golf Management;
from three maintenance companies, and a management agreement by the
Aliments. He said the City could expect a range of $52,000 to $65,000
a year on the lease arrangement and, depending upon a golf pro agreement,
a range of $43,000 to $64,000 on the maintenance agreement; under the
pro- manager agreement with the Aliments it would be $51,000. Mr.
McMicken said in interviewing the companies it was the consensus that
Golf Management and Planning, Inc. would provide the City with the
best plan and profit and would be in the best interest of the City.
He said the analysis showed the income to the City would be $65,000 and
would show growth and a higher gross to the City later on. He showed
with a chart on the blackboard the income that could be expected. He
said the City would receive $4,500 a month. He said there are more and
more golfers playing and the profits should increase. Bill Smith,
audience, asked about the financial status of Golf Management and Plan-
ning. Mr. McMicken said this company has recently signed a lease to
manage Jackson Park Golf Course in Seattle. He said they checked with
seven or eight vendors and found their reputation to be satisfactory.
He said in talking to Mr. Moore of Golf Management, there is a net worth
of about three fourths million. He said he had found the firm to be
reputable and able to carry out their terms of the lease. He said the
greens fees will be deposited daily in a city account in a bank of the
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
April 24, 1978
Page 2
DISCUSSION Cont.
Foster Golf Links
Recommendations
of the Golf Course
Committee contd.
RECESS
8:40 8:46 P.M.
City's choice. At the end of the month there will be an accounting.
He said the safeguard is that the money is deposited to the City and
they will earn interest on it. He said the hiring of a pro, when neces-
sary, will be done with City approval.
Mr. McMicken said he would suggest a lease be executed beginning May 1
and terminating December 31, 1982. There will be a provision that the
lease may be extended by mutual consent. He said Golf Management plans
to rebuild the clubhouse and improvements will be made to the golf
course. Mr. McMicken said if credit cards are used at the golf course,
Golf Mangement will make cash deposits to the City for the credit and
they will collect the credit amounts. Mr. McMicken said there is equip-
ment in the kitchen and shed that should be listed as surplus and sold.
The lessee would then be assuming the liability for equipment that is
useful. The lessee will make capital improvements. The City is
committed to repair and maintain the bridge. There may also be the
requirement to supply a restroom for handicapped persons that will
involve a ramp. An employee of the golf course asked if the restaurant
would stay union and if the old help would be kept. Mr. Stoknes said
he had told the union steward that nothing would be put in the contract
stating it had to be a union shop. The matter of the union will be up
to the managers of the course. Councilman Saul said he did not ask Golf
Management if they would keep the help, but he felt they wanted to keep
the people who were working there.
Mr. McMicken said the Aliment proposal was a pro- management agreement.
The City retains all of its responsibility and obligations to oversee
the running of the course, but they would have a manager on the premises.
There would be quite a few obligations and responsibility on the part
of the City. In a lease agreement the City would not have these respon-
sibilities. Councilman Bohrer said the trails proposed for the golf
course would run the length of the golf course and would not interfere
with the game. Councilman Harris said at one time the City was compar-
ing notes with the City of Bellevue and their golf course. She asked how
they are doing now. Mr. Stoknes said they have City employees running
the course, they have a coffee shop, they have the third most play in
the State, Foster is fourth. Their maintenance budget is starting to
affect their profit margin.
Mr. McMicken said in summary he felt Golf Mangement would be the wise
choice for the City. It has been said there will not be a fee increase
at the present time. Mayor Bauch said the City Attorney has said the
City will assume the ownership of the golf course at midnight on May 1,
1978. He said he would recommend the City Council hold a Special
Meeting on Thursday, April 27, 1978, at 4:00 P.M.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT A SPECIAL MEETING BE HELD ON
THURSDAY, APRIL 27, 1978 AT 4:00 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THE
MAYOR BE AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT FOR THE OPERATION OF THE
GOLF COURSE FOR THE CITY.
Councilman Bohrer asked what changes would be made in the way the golf
course is run if there is a lease agreement with Golf Management?
Mr. McMicken said the thing the City retains as its responsibility would
be the setting of fees, the hours of operation, and other rules that are
made by resolution from time to time. This includes proper dress and
courtesy. There should be a semiannual analysis of the operation and
if anything is found wanting the City may require it be corrected.
Mayor Bauch said it would take Council action to raise the fees. Mr.
Stoknes said a resolution setting the fees would be brought to the
Council.
*CARRIED.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MEETING RECESS FOR SIX MINUTES. CARRIED.
The Commitee of the Whole Meeting was called back to order by
Council President Van Dusen with Council Members present as previously
listed.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
April 24, 1978
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DISCUSSION Contd.
Surplus Property
along So. 154th
Review of Model
Massage Parlor
Ordinance
Terry Monaghan, Director of Public Works, said he had recommended in his
letter of April 6, 1978 the maximum desirable right -of -way in the area
of South 154th Street and 52nd Avenue South. He suggested the City
acquire the surplus right -of -way needed and then inform the State that
this is the extent of the City's acquisition, then they can sell the
remainder. Council President Van Dusen said if the City takes the
amount needed then Mr. Bowen could apply for the purchase of the remain-
der.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE CITY REAFFIRM ITS POLICY
SET FORTH IN COUNCIL MOTION NO. 76 -13, ACQUIRE THE SURPLUS RIGHT -OF -WAY
PROPERTY RECOMMENDED AND INFORM THE STATE THIS IS THE EXTENT OF THE
CITY'S ACQUISITION. CARRIED.
Mayor Bauch said the City Attorney has sent out a model ordinance so
the City can revise some of the provisions in the ordinance we have on
massage parlors. He said he had gone over it and there are some parts
that need to be put into other form to fit the City's needs. He said
Sgt. McQueen is present to answer any questions about the need to change
the ordinance. Mayor Bauch said one provision prohibits a female being
allowed to provide massage to a male. It also requires registration of
employees. Councilman Bohrer said the City has found it costs to try
and govern a massage parlor. He said he thought the City should try
to recover the expense. Councilman Bohrer said he noted that massage
parlors should not be in a close proximity to residential zones, but
were permitted in general business areas. He said it seemed to him
there is a lot of residential area within 100 yards of the massage estab-
lishment. He said in the recent case, KCW owned the massage parlor
and the individual owner was trying to divorce himself from the operation
and did not know what was going on. He said he thought the name of the
manager should be posted in a prominent place so it is known and recog-
nized who is responsible. He said he did not see a requirement in the
proposed ordinance to have the manager bonded, also the employees
should be bonded. He said he would like to see the business license
application require a list of all businesses and establishments an
employee might have a part or interest in; also any businesses the
owner has an interest in. Mayor Bauch said this is covered in Paragraph
"0" in Section 7 -1204. Councilman Bohrer said a new license and new
picture should be required annually.
Councilman Bohrer said the City should ask for a list of all employees.
Sgt. McQueen said there is a provision in the model ordinance for that.
Councilman Bohrer said the City should know if any masseuse has a license
in any other municipality. Mayor Bauch said the name of the manager
should be posted at all times so if there is a violation it will be
known at that time who is manager. Council President Van Dusen asked
if there is a legal definition for "posted in a prominent place."
Sgt. McQueen said he thought it should be visible to the customer's eyes
and in full view. Mayor Bauch said on Page 22 it says the license should
be posted in the work area. Sgt. McQueen said he would suggest the dis-
play of identification on the person in the establishment, that they
have an identification number and physical description, also a picture.
The City should issue this identification. Councilman Bohrer said in
the case the City had been in recently, it indicated the proprietor had
divorced himself from the business. He said he only went there once a
week for fifteen minutes. It appears that Mr. Durkin went to great
lengths not to have knowledge of what was going on. Councilman Bohrer
asked if our ordinance provides for fines and imprisonment. He said
he thought that should be transferred to any ordinance the City is con-
sidering. Also, if the manager is changed the City should be notified.
He said he wondered if the City could require the names and addresses of
all customers be kept for record. Councilman Saul said he thought
there should be windows in each room so a person could walk through and
see what is going on. This might solve a lot of problems. Sgt. McQueen
said the doors are not locked, just the door into the office area.
Mayor Bauch said he would refer the items that have been discussed to the
City Attorney.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR MASSAGE
PARLORS BE PRESENTED AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING ON MAY 8,
1978. CARRIED.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
April 24, 1978
Page 4
DISCUSSION Contd.
EDP Objectives
STANDING COMMITTEE REPORTS
Public Safety
Noise Control
Council President Van Dusen said with respect to electronic data
processors, he would like to form an ad hoc committee to work on this.
Members of the committee would be Councilman Van Dusen, Finance Director
Swanson, and Administrative Assistant John McFarland. He said he would
like to ask permission of the City Council to go forward and ask for a
needs study proposal to bring back to the Council. He said the needs
study proposal would contain the following: cost, time, report, person-
nel time required, and scope. The proposal could be evaluated and two
or three choices could be made. It could be brought to the Council
for evaluation and then the City could go on to the next phase. Council-
man Hill said if the Council gets the needs study they can know how
much can be done this year. Council President Van Dusen said the ad hoc
committee would proceed as outlined.
Community Affairs Chairman Traynor said at the second meeting in May they would have an
ordinance on cable television to present.
Finance Committee Chairman Harris said the Committee met with Finance Director Swanson
and Mr. McFarland, Administrative Assistant. They talked about contract
negotiations.
Chairman Bohrer said the Committee met on April 12 with Dave Hickok
and Mr. McFarland. He said the committee would meet with Dave Hickok
and help him with the noise ordinance. Chief Crawley is unable to meet
with the Committee on Wednesdays so the Committee will meet on May 2
at 4:30 p.m. regarding the smoke detector ordinance.
Public Works Councilman Hill said the Committee talked to Terry Monaghan, Public
Works Director, and gave him a list of things to report back on.
The six -year street plan was reviewed. He said they mentioned the
fact that at one time all of the open ditches in the City were to be
closed. They asked to have this looked into. With respect to the
undergrounding program, a report will be made on this.
Thorndyke and Mayor Bauch stated the School Board would be meeting on April 25, 1978
Southgate and they will be discussing the Southgate School. He said he had met
Schools for with Dr. Fotheringham and they had explored all of the various methods
Senior Citizens and possibilities of using Southgate School. Dr. Fotheringham said they
have a request from a private school to lease Southgate School. He said
he would like the Council to state whether or not they are interested in
Southgate School. He said the letter that came from Mr. Spellman said
some of the grant block money for Thorndyke could possibly be used for a
lease. Council President Van Dusen said he was interested in Southgate
and he favored giving up Thorndyke. Councilman Bohrer said he did not
want to make a fifteen year commitment to something the Senior Citizens
have said they will not go to. Councilman Traynor said he was enthus-
iastic about Southgate School and he felt it would be a good community
center. Mayor Bauch said the price of the building does not have to be
the appraised value, it can be the agreed price between the School Board
and the purchaser. The building is not expected to be used again as a
school, but it has to be used for community purposes. It can be used
for anything that it is legal for the City to use it for. Council
President Van Dusen said then it is the consensus of the Council that the
Mayor bring a resolution on the Thorndyke building to the next City
Council Meeting.
Councilman Bohrer said he had attended a local government meeting the
previous week. He said the port denied they had any potential to affect
the noise that comes from the airport. They said the Federal government
has refused the right to legislate noise that comes from aircraft. One
noise that is annoying is the run up and testing. The airport has a
restriction of two minutes at a time within an hour. He said he had
heard them run up and shut down for six or eight times within an hour.
The port survey itemizes that as being one of the most annoying noises.
It occurs at night when other noise is quieter, that is probably why it
is so obvious. He said the port was buying up housing in the area of the
airport.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
April 24, 1978
Page 5
DISCUSSION Contd.
Interurban Councilman Harris said she had gone to a meeting of the Puget Sound
Corridor Council of Governments. She said during one of the recesses she had
talked to Wesley Beaugart, Department of Highways, about the Interurban
Corridor. He said to let him know next time there is a study on it
and he would send someone out to see it.
ADJOURNMENT
10:20 P.M.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MEETING ADJOURN. CARRIED.
Gary" Van
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''n, City Counci 1` PresiZtent
Norma Booher, Recording Secretary