HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-07-10 Committee of the Whole MinutesJuly 10, 1978 TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
7:00 P.M. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
ROLL CALL OF BOHRER, HILL, JOHANSON, VAN DUSEN.
COUNCIL MEMBERS
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES
DISCUSSION
LID #27
Final Assessment
Roll
M I N U T E S
City Hall 1
Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER Council President Van Dusen called the Tukwila City Council Committee
of the Whole Meeting to order.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT COUNCILMAN HARRIS, SAUL, AND
TRAYNOR BE EXCUSED FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. CARRIED.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE LICENSE
HEARING HELD MAY 18, 1978 BE APPROVED AS PUBLISHED. CARRIED.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE COMMITTEE
OF THE WHOLE MEETING HELD JUNE 26, 1978 BE APPROVED AS PUBLISHED.
CARRIED.
Terry Monaghan, Director of Public Works, said the issue at hand was to
change the terms of the bond from 10 years to 20 years. Ron Swanson,
Finance Director, said Mr. John Urbina, Foster and Marshall, had
prepared a letter stating traditionally LID's of the size currently
being considered by the City are financed with a 12 year term bond with
assessments collected over a period of 10 years. He said there are
other alternatives open to the City. The City may elect to issue a
15 or 20 year bond. He stated his opinion was that it would be best
for the City to issue the 10 year bond. Mr. Urbina said it was up to
the Council. Mayor Bauch said the question of the legality of change
had been put to Mr. Woo, Deputy City Attorney, and he has issued an
opinion that it can be changed. The saleability of the bonds has not
affected anyone, except the banks. He said we do not have a written
contract. Councilman Bohrer said one of the concerns of the City
throughout the development of this LID has been to keep the costs to the
participants down. We tried to expedite the construction of the improve
ments to do that. He said there was a request at the last meeting that
an extension in the period of the bonds would be desirable. He said he
was curious to know if that is a single expression or if others share
that feeling. Charles Baker, Tukwila Industrial Council, said the
only request for an extension came from Mr. Thomas Bernard of Cabot,
Cabot and Forbes. He said he had not heard any other requests, he had
not talked to anyone about it, but usually if anyone has a request
change they call him. Councilman Bohrer said it was the feeling of
Councilman Traynor and himself that the City was participating in a
LID that was precedent setting. There was considerable debate on this
at a previous meeting. He voted to participate and he said he found
at the present time he was leaning the opposite way, that the City
should not participate. He was it was constructed for the benefit of
the business community and the cost increases which were a major
concern and inspired the request that we participate were due to: Escal
ation in construction costs at that time; assumptions that were made
in the original or preliminary engineering to keep the costs low,
which were later found to be unacceptable to the State of Washington;
whether the placement of the pump station should be above ground or
below ground. We determined we had adequate room to put it below
ground without further property acquisition, but not adequate room to
build one above ground. The Council's decision was to press onward
with the construction of the LID with the feeling that the cost of
building a station above ground would be reduced from putting it below
ground but in the interim the ongoing progress of inflation would
probably eat up any of the potential savings from above ground construc-
tion. He said he felt those were legitimate reasons for the actions
of the Council. He said he would prefer to see the roll redrawn so
the City does not participate. Terry Monaghan, Public Works Director,
said he had not discussed this with the City Attorney but he would
suspect the City would have to readvertise and it could go on for
another six months. Councilman Hill said the City has participated in
LID's before. He said he had seen the City put in sewers, etc., so
building can be done. Councilman Bohrer said it was his concern as
to whether or not the City would stand to recover the funds they put
into it. He said he was not convinced that the property included is
property that will be developed and recovered. Terry Monaghan, Public
Works Director, said in the report that was given three options were
given and the once chosen was the one that said we would participate
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
July 10, 1978
Page 2
DISCUSSION Contd.
LID #27
Final Assessment
Roll contd.
Park Place Rezone
Review of findings
of fact and
conclusions re
change of
zoning
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to the extent of those properties that would most probably be rezoned
for commercial and industrial development. He said there was an
exclusion of some property which would likely not be rezoned as it
might be unbuildable. Mayor Bauch said Section 3A of the ordinance
provides that all property R -1 and R -A at the time of rezone would
pick up the average assessment per acre. Council President Van Dusen
said this item would be on the agenda of the Regular Council Meeting
to be held July 17, 1978.
Kjell Stoknes, Director of Public Works, said he was in attendance to
discuss the findings of fact and conclusions regarding the change of
zoning classification.
Mr. Richard Wilson, 403 Columbia Street, Seattle, architect, said he
was in attendance on behalf of the rezone applicant, Dick Gilroy, to
present some changes and facts the Council may not have with an eye
toward asking the City Council to reconsider their previous vote of
denial. He said they had worked with engineers and architects to
solve some of the things that were brought up by the Council. He said
they felt they had solved most of the problems. He said there were
three areas of concern. The first one is the design of the access of
I -5 into 62nd; the second is the assurance of maintaining maximum tree
coverage and assuring there is adequate buffer along the northern
boundary; the third is the alleviation of any height problems. He
said most of the multi family developers in the past have been apart-
ment developers and there is considerable difference between the
development philosophy between apartments and condominiums. Apartments
try to cut costs, sites are stripped, a low grade of lumber is used.
In condominium developments you are building homes for people who
buy quality. You are using all of your efforts. You are making it as
nearly like a home as possible. Our competition is people who are
buying single family homes.
Dave Halinen, engineer, Triad Associates, 1950 112th Avenue NE, Bellevue
said he would like to address one of the main concerns at the last
meeting which was the entrance to the project on 62nd, an intersection
situation. It was a concern due to the alignment of the roadway with
153rd which would create a situation whereby you would have a substan-
tial amount of traffic heading down 153rd rather than making a turn
onto 62nd to Southcenter Boulevard. Because of this they spent a lot
of time looking at the intersection trying to find a way they could
route the traffic from the development coming down the hill onto 62nd.
As can be seen (using a wall map) they extended the proposed planting
island in form of a radius onto 62nd which would essentially force a
driver to make a "U" turn if he was going up onto 153rd. To further
promote his turning onto 62nd, a "right turn only" sign would have to be
installed on the south portion of the lane so it would be illegal to
make that left hand turn. On the 153rd side, traffic heading west
they proposed a stop sign to bring to the driver's attention the main
roadway is continued to the south rather than up the hill. That
should deter most traffic from going into the development. There
has been an additional 20 feet of right of way to the north of the
Blake property which has been deeded to the City. Because of this the
Public Works Department has asked that they shift the roadway alinement
to the south to match that road right of way on 153rd. We have done
this. We have discussed this proposal with Mir. Emke, the property
owner to the south, who has agreed to let us use that area for the
exiting lane from the development. In return for this they will
provide him with an emergency vehicle, access to the exit lane so he
can complete the emergency vehicle through his development. He said
he also wanted to mention that there was some confusion about the
grades they were looking at, going from the intersection at 62nd and
153rd up into the development. The conclusions stated that the
grade would be acceptable. The grade is about 10% as was designed
in the EIS. As we are now shifting the road down the hill we will be
getting further away from this rock outcropping. He said they would
be taking out a portion of the rock outcropping.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
July 10, 1978
Page 3
DISCUSSION Contd.
Park Place Rezone
contd.
Councilman Hill said he, Councilman Bohrer, and Terry Monaghan were up
there looking at the situation and as 153rd comes down there, it goes
up rather a steep grade and then down a steep grade. Did you intend
to take any off the top of that? Mr. Halinen said they did, they
were thinking in terms of three feet. Councilman Hill said 12 feet
could be taken off and it would make a much better street. It is solid
rock.
Leonard Milbrandt, 16301 NE 8th, Bellevue, said that would probably
be determined if the City intended 62nd to go through. It probably
would be to everyone's advantage to take that intersection down. The
Public Works probably has a design for 62nd, as they said within a
year it would be improved. He said that would be something that all
in the area who are developing could work out. Especially since the
roadway is being moved further south it does facilitate a better
gradient up into the project. If they were to take that intersection
down somewhat it wouldn't affect their grade up into the project that
much.
Councilman Bohrer said after looking at the intersection and reviewing
the map it seems it is something of a challenge to put that intersection
in there. His estimate of the roadway currently from that intersection
immediately to the west is probably now 15% or so. I would expect it
is something over 10 The proposal shows a stop sign at that location
which brings you up a fairly steep incline and still asks you to
make a turn. Having driven up there now, if you are driving a larger
car with a long hood or if you are small and sit down in the car you
would be unable to see the road at all. It is sort of a challenging
problem. I don't know if an engineering solution exits. I think
there is a reasonable solution as you have suggested in channeling
the flow of traffic. Richard Wilson said he felt a complete review
of the complete design would be the responsibility of the Public Works
Department and that they would not permit approval of the roadway
design unless they felt they met the safety requirements. He said
he thought they had demonstrated it was possible to route the traffic
flow which he thought was the main concern of the Council. We could
grade our driveways such that if the City did take down that inter-
section to facilitate development, if they are going to develop they
are going to have to solve the problem. They are not going to put
in a new street and have that visibility problem. They will grade
the road such that it will be a safe intersection. He said they
could provide grading on their driveway access such that they could
drop their grade, they could come down a certain grade and then level
out at the bottom so if the intersection came down in the future they
could revise their driveways such that it would be suitable grading.
Mr. Halinen said they had met with Public Works and they have not
really looked at that corner as far as the design aspect goes. He
said he thought the architect's thoughts were good. In other words,
if at a future date that knob is going to have to be taken down, their
projected driveways will fit right into it.
Councilman Bohrer asked Mr. Monaghan if at the point of the discussion
he felt there is an engineering solution to the design for that
corner or does he have within the framework of the concepts presented
a solution or is there some further major surgery required to solve
the problem.
Terry Monaghan, Director of Public Works, said there is a solution to
take the grade up 153rd and 62nd to flatten the top of the hill.
That could be done. The rock will make it expensive to the extent it
is going to be cut. The tailoring of the driveways on private property
to a new shortened vertical curve is another problem with the gutter.
They are going to cut some of that rock out and we are going to do
the same. I suppose there is going to have to be some consideration
for that to meet the existing road grade. It will have to be cut back
far enough to have sight. As far as the grading there is a general
feeling it should be dropped. The question of how much it should be
dropped is a question of how much economics against safety. There is
a solution. If they are willing to take the risk of designing their
driveways to meet the grade that is ultimately designed, he said he
would say yes.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
July 10, 1978
Page 4
DISCUSSION Contd.
Park Place Rezone
contd.
2 1
Councilman Johanson said he keeps hearing the phrase "when the City
fixes that road" and "makes that road" and "ultimate design of the
street after..." Isn't this street going to be prepared for the flow
of traffic before this project becomes a reality. Mr. Monaghan said
it is the City's responsibility to develop that street. It may come
under an LID in which the City would take the dominant role. As to
when, we have a six year program in the future. We have that in the
program to do next year. We hope to do it under an LID.
Council President Van Dusen said the developer's design would have to
meet the design of the City for those two streets. Mr. Monaghan said
the City has an agreement with the Blake property and Mr. Emke is
putting together his package and LID participation has been discussed
with him or a developer's agreement. It has also been discussed with
Bruce Morgan who is developing the office on the corner. We will be
going after an LID vote. Because of almost a total length of the
street from Mr. Roland's house on 153rd heading west and then heading
south down 62nd is presently planned to be developed by people who
are going to put in developments. It is conceivable that the other
approach might be the more kindly approach to develop the whole street,
hire one engineer, have it designed. The City would be the ruling and
approving body to develop to City standards. The advantage to that
would be it might lessen the cost to everybody. In all of the rezones
that have been approved and rezones that are presently being prepared
the improvement of the street is being included as a prerequisite of
the rezone so it will be developed as it should be developed.
Dick Gilroy, 1115 108th Avenue NE, Bellevue, said regarding the land-
scaping everyone is concerned about, some of the solutions that have
been used and which they are going to work out with the City would
be an agreement that as they submit for each building permit they go
out and stake the buildings on the site prior to the permit and review
the site with someone from the staff. Sometimes this requires them
to move a building a few feet one way or another because of existing
trees. In addition, they would bond to replace all of the conifers
they take down in excess of four feet. They will replace them in the
landscaping with 10 to 14 foot firs. This is a good start. Another
thing they emphasize is the planting of additional conifers in the
perimter area or in the area that is of great concern for buffering
purposes. They would increase the planting of conifer trees in
addition to the existing ones and some of the deciduous ones, so there
would be year -round greenery. Another point is to designate "no cut"
areas where they could not go in and remove any trees. These would
be designated on the face of the plat. This would be left in the
natural state.
Council President Van Dusen asked Mr. Gilroy if they were willing to
put some kind of guarantee on that. Mr. Gilroy said they were willing
to make it part of the covenant and as a part of the requirement of
the building permit, to work along with the staff for review at that
time.
Councilman Bohrer asked how the City implements the mechanism Mr. Gilroy
was speaking about where in the process of placing the building on the
site and asking for a building permit to go through this process of
reviewing the trees and marking it, how is it formalized? Is that a
developer's agreement that goes with the rezone? What is the mechanism?
Mr. Gilroy said that it is something the City would place on the rezone
making it subject to staff review that prior to the final building
permit being issued it conform. He said they were doing a project now
in Lake Forest and that is how it is being handled. Mr. Stoknes,
OCD Director, said this is a common practice.
Mr. Halinen, Traid Associates, 1950 112th Avenue NE, Bellevue, said the
structures have been revised as to height so they are compatible with
the vicinity. He said they would limit the heights of buildings to
three stories, in the area where they had discussed they would make the
transfer from four stories and would step the buildings. He said they
would eliminate the end two units which are required in order to step
buildings.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
July 10, 1978
Page 5
DISCUSSION Contd.
Park Place Rezone
contd.
RECESS
8:55 9:00 P.M.
Park Place Rezone
contd.
Increase in
Budget for Civil
Service Comm.
Proposed Motion
delaring intent to
remove metal bldg.
in City Park
21�
Richard Wilson, 403 Columbia Street, Seattle, said on the basis of
revisions that have been made he would ask that the Council reconsider
the application for rezone. He said he would like to add that having
reviewed the findings of fact and conclusions submitted by the City
Attorney, it was his opinion that if this does ever come to litigation
the City is going to have a tough time of it. From what the EIS
shows and the other facts this is an excellent development.
Councilman Hill said at the last meeting when the Council was discussing
this, it was mentioned there are covenants to go with this, it is to
be owner occupied. How would this be enforced? He said he had friends
living in condominiums in Bellevue. I talked to them and they said
when they bought the condominiums the project was 8 years old. They
had to be approved by the Board of Directors before they could buy.
They said the Board of Directors had to approve the buyer if you sold
your condominium. If they did not approve the buyer then the associa-
tion had the option to purchase. In talking to all of them, it
worked the same. They have been doing it for 8 years. He said he felt
a project like this of a strictly quality type condominium you would
have the same type of people you would have living in a single family
residence, except there would be two of them living within six inches
instead of 10 feet of yard.
Dick Gilroy said they were building condominiums to sell and the better
the project or development the better their sales would be. In the
earnest money agreement they have the provisions of sale.
Mr. Don Sipe, audience, said he owned property north of the project
and he had attended Planning Commission meetings on the rezone. He
said they had owned the property for 28 years and have been concerned
with what was going to happen. He said he wished to speak in behalf
of the proposed development. He said they had no objections to it.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE SUBJECT OF THE PARK PLACE
REZONE BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE JULY 17, 1977 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IF
ALL SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL ARE PRESENT. CARRIED.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MEETING RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. CARRIED.
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called back to order by
Council President Van Dusen with Council Members present as previously
listed.
Mayor Bauch said the Findings of Fact and Conclusions had been prepared
by the City Attorney to be approved by the Council if they do not
reconsider the rezone request. Councilman Bohrer said there are still
things about the project that causes him concern. Councilman Bohrer
said he felt the Findings of Fact and Conclusions should be tabled until
the Council has reconsidered the rezone request.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND
CONCLUSIONS REGARDING CHANGE OF ZONING CLASSIFICATION BE TABLED UNTIL
THE COUNCIL RECONSIDERS THE PARK PLACE REZONE. CARRIED.
Steven Phelps, Chairman of Civil Service Commission, said he would like
to request additional money for the Civil Service Commission. They
would like to have the sum of $2,500 added to the budget. He said
they had delineated it into line items.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT AN ORDINANCE BE PREPARED TO
TRANSFER FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,500 FROM APPROPRIATE FUNDS TO THE
CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. CARRIED.
Terry Monaghan, Director of Public Works, said he concurred with the
recommended removal of the building in the spring of 1979. It is
presently, being used for the storage of supplies and consumables;
used as storage for tools and equipment; and is a work area for building
and repair projects. Council President Van Dusen said the intent is
to move the building. Mayor Bauch said it is the intent to put in
stairs, partitions, etc., and use it for fire training.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
July 10, 1978
Page 6
DISCUSSION Contd.
Intent to
remove metal bldg.
in City Park contd.
Van Woerden Short
Plat Ord.
accepting dedica-
tion of certain
lands along
Green R. for park
related purpose
TMC 8.04.520, Council President Van Dusen said this matter was put on the agenda
Alcohol consumption because of the golf course request for a liquor license. Since the
in public place golf course is owned by the City he thought it should be considered due
unlawful to the phrase in the TMC that says "or leased by the City." Mayor
Bauch said he recommended the repeal of Ordinance 1021 and the removal
of Section 1 of Ordinance 945 and possibly a change in the fine. Chief
Sheets said he had no knowledge of any arrests being made in the parks.
He said there is nothing wrong with Ordinance 945 that a few words
could not correct. He said there can be drinking in the parks with
some restrictions on it. He said a package should be defined, a bottle
should be smaller than a quart, and the hours be defined, such as
after 11 p.m. The Park Commission has chosen that hour to close the
tennis courts. Councilman Bohrer said Ordinance 1021 was passed to
prohibit drinking in the park because of the concern when Fort Dent
was opened. He said he recommended drinking and sales be limited
to 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. He also suggested that for special events a group
could come to the Council and ask for a special permit.
Prop. Ordinance
Noise Control
Motion on Area
Wide Water Quality
Plan
STANDING COMMITTEE REPORTS
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPT THE MOTION
DECLARING THEIR INTENT TO REMOVE THE METAL BUILDING IN THE TUKWILA
CITY PARK. CARRIED.
Kjell Stoknes, Director of Office of Community Development, said the
proposed land dedication on the Van Woerden property contains a 20
foot river trail dedication and a portion of property on the north
end for park purposes. I,t implements the adopted Park Plan for the
City of Tukwila and appears to be consistent with the City's goals. It
would be a continuation of the Christensen Trail.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE HAVE A
PARAGRAPH INSERTED BETWEEN THE SECOND AND THIRD PARAGRAPHS THAT STATES
"WHEREAS, THIS DEDICATION WAS NOT REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF TUKWILA BUT
DEDICATED FREELY BY THE OWNERS, AND:" AND BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE
JULY 17, 1978 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT THIS ITEM BE REFERRED TO
THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION.
CARRIED.
Councilman Bohrer said the proposed ordinance relating to noise control
was on the agenda for City Council information. He said he would like
to have it set for a Public Hearing. A draft of the proposed ordinance
has been prepared for staff comments. The ordinance will have to be
approved by the State Department of Ecology. Dave Saunders wants to be
informed of the date of the Public Hearing and he will be invited to
attend. Council President Van Dusen suggested the information regarding
the Public Hearing be put in the next issue of the Hazelnut. Councilman
Bohrer said the Public Hearing could be held the first part of
September. Council President Van Dusen said it could be discussed at
the next Committee of the Whole meeting and a date for the Public
Hearing could be set at that time.
Mayor Bauch said the Staff had prepared a Formal Statement for an
Areawide Water Quality Plan subject to the comments and qualifications
contained within the statement. He said the City is committed for a
120 day program. Councilman Bohrer said there seems to be something
missing in the last sentence of Item 5. Mr. Stoknes said the word
"freely" should be "maintain."
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT THE MOTION ON AREA WIDE
WATER QUALITY PLAN BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE JULY 17, 1978 REGULAR
COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED.
Public Health Councilman Bohrer said Wednesday, July 12, 1978, from 7 to 10 p.m.
Safety Committee there will be a meeting of the Joint Committee to Control Airport Noise.
He said he would not be able to attend but would send a statement.
He said if anyone on the Council could attend, he recommended they do so.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
July 10, 1978
Page 7
CALENDAR REVIEW
Council Policy
Seminar
Special Meeting re
Southgate Elem.
McMicken Heights
Improvement Club
Christensen Trail
ADJOURNMENT
10:40 P.M.
2 /C
Mayor Bauch stated there would be a Council Policy Seminar on July 28,
1978 at the Doubletree Inn at 4:00 p.m. Dinner will be at 6:30 p.m.
Mayor Bauch said there would be a special community meeting involving
patrons, the School Board, and the Tukwila City Council in the Board
Room on Thursday, July 13, at 7:30 p.m. The purpose of the meeting
will be to work toward a sale price for Southgate Elementary School.
Mayor Bauch announced the McMicken Heights Improvement Club has invited
the Council to attend a public presentation on the results of a study
they sponsored this spring. The study concerned the pros and cons
of three local government options to the community. They are incorpor-
ation into own city; annexation into Tukwila; remain as is in King
County. The meeting is scheduled for 7:30 p.m. on Wednesday, July 12,
at the McMicken Heights Clubhouse.
Mayor Bauch said the architect was ready to present final design on
the Christensen Trail at the next Council Meeting.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MEETING ADJOURN. CARRIED.
Gary Van Duen; City Council Presibeht
Nor ooher, Recording Secretary