HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-09-25 Committee of the Whole MinutesSeptember 25, 1978
7:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL OF BOHRER, HILL, HARRIS, JOHANSON, SAUL, TRAYNOR, VAN DUSEN.
COUNCIL MEMBERS
DISCUSSION
H &CD Block Grant
monies 1979
Voucher No. 454
Voucher No. 366
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
M I N U T E S
.2A G
City Hall
Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER Council President Van Dusen called the Tukwila City Council Committee
of the Whole Meeting to order at 7:04 P.M.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 11,
1978 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING BE APPROVED AS PUBLISHED. CARRIED.
Prop. Ord. fixing Councilman Harris explained the change in the price of the bonds from
amount, form, date $5,000 to $1,000 so individuals could buy them rather than institutions.
interest rate, This made a difference in the number of bonds. The interest rate is
maturity denomin- not on the ordinance at present as they are waiting until 5 p.m. on
ations of LID 27 Monday, October 2, 1978 before the bonds are issued to get the best
bonds directing interest rate. The present rate is about 62 She said many would have
the issuance liked to have had them before but they were all sold out.
sale to Foster
Marshall MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BE ON
THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 2, 1978 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED.
Mayor Bauch stated the proposed resolution would be on the agenda of the
October 9, 1978 Committee of the Whole Meeting.
Terry Monaghan, Director of Public Works, said in January, 1977 there
was an agreement made between the City and the Benaroya Company to
oversize a culvert on the present site of the Carriage House. The City
agreed to pick up the additional cost. Mayor Bauch asked if the cost
was to be borne by the City or the LID? Mr. Monaghan said the way he
read it, it was the City. He continued that in 1976 the LID was completed
and the outfall for an overflow was through a Swale through the Benaroya
property. Sometime prior to January, 1977 they applied for a building
permit. The building permit was held up pending their putting in a
36 inch sewer rather than 24 inch, as it was not large enough to carry
the overflow. This bill of $2,456.25 was the difference in cost in
putting in the 36 inch rather than the 24 inch. Councilman Hill asked if
this was part of the master water drainage plan down there. He said there
was a master plan made up as to how that area would be developed. Mr.
Monaghan said he had not seen the master plan. He said there was no
obligation requiring Benaroya put in a 36 inch line, but the 24 inch
was not large enough to carry a 100 year storm. Mayor Bauch said the
overflow is the pipe coming under I -5 and the State says you cannot back
water up. On a 100 year flow it could create pressure. The City put
in the overflow to take care of the emergency. Councilman Hill said he
remembered when it was done but he did not know the City agreed to pay
the difference. Mayor Bauch said it was not necessary for the developer
to put in more than a 24 inch line and we had to put in the 36 inch line.
He said he thought it was charged to the LID. Councilman Johanson said
if the 36 inch line is required then that is a requirement, it would have
to be put in to take care of the overflow. Councilman Hill said by
putting it in it benefits a lot of other property. That is why he
wondered if it was put in the LID. Councilman Traynor said even if it is
not on the LID the City is obligated to pay it. Mayor Bauch said in
January 1977 the City was committed to pay it. It is an obligation of
the City. The letter committing the City was written, using the LID
as the subject of the letter.
f10VED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT VOUCHER NO. 454 PAYABLE TO THE
JACK A.BENAROYA COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,456.25 BE ON THE AGENDA
OF THE OCTOBER 2, 1978 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED.
Councilman Traynor said he thought $108.90 was high for a publication
for the Fire Department. Mayor Bauch said the amount was for a subscrip-
tion to the "Planner" for the Lieutenants, the publication comes monthly
and costs $1.01 per person per month. It is put out by "Man and Manager."
Mayor Bauch said it is a planning calendar that is similar to the one
put out by the City. He said he thought it is within the prerogative of
the Fire Department budget.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT VOUCHER NO. 366 PAYABLE TO "MAN
AND MANAGER" IN THE AMOUNT OF $108.90 BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 2,
1978 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
September 25, 1978
Page 2
DISCUYSION Contd.
Ord. No. 1069
auth. Mayor Public
Works Dir. to take
immediate action to
have the ruptured
water line serving
Southcenter So.
repairs
Water Service to
Seattle Rendering
Works
2
Terry Monaghan, Director of Public Works, said in August he came
before the Council and asked for an emergency ordinance and funds
for the broken water line. The cost was estimated between $15,000
and $20,000. He said it was found the water line and sewer line
were broken and extensive repairs were required. He said he had
a bill from the contractor in the amount of $24,000. He said he
was in the process of revising the bill with the contractor and
it will be something like $20,700. He said that is not the final
figure, but it is based on his own analysis. He said it would
be prorated between the water and sewer fund. Councilman Saul asked
what the possibility was of this happening again? Mr. Monaghan
said the damage occurrred on the bend of the river. There was a
slump of the bank and an eddy in the water there which undermined
the bank. The bank is now held with heavy rock and the rupture
should not happen again. He said he would look at it visually
from time to time to see if any damage is being done. He said
there had been a settlement of the pipe and it washed out the
bolts and the 6 -inch line broke in the same spot. He said he did
not know if it would happen again, the repair has been made
and it should stand. Mayor Bauch said a motion by the City Council
to change the amount of the repair would be required.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE MATTER BE ON THE
AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 2, 1978 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED.
Terry Monaghan, Director of Public Works, said the Council had been
given a report on the comprehensive revision of the water system.
He said there are 12 residential customers and three commercial
customers on the line. One is the Seattle Rendering Works. He
said the line comes from Sunset Road. A few years ago it was dis-
covered to be leaking in the river where it crossed into Tukwila.
At that time the line was valved off on either side of the river.
Recently in the surveillance of this line a leak was uncovered
under the railroad tracks on the east side of the river at the
point the line crosses the railroad tracks in a casing and the
pipe was in this casing. He said it had been made temporarily safe
but it might undermine the railroad track, but there is not immed-
iate danger. He said in order to repair this it would be necessary
to get at the casing and that would be through 12 yards of concrete.
He said he would suggest Water District 125 serve the Seattle
Rendering Works. The lines are parallel. He said we have to get
rid of the leak. We are losing water through the leak, about
$3,585 a year. He said he was proposing replacement of the whole
facility and tapping it off and installing another line and tying
them in together. It will be about 900 feet. It will cost about
$13,000 of water line if we install it. In order to repair the
casing we would have to get a permit from the rialroad and the cost
would be upwards of$50 a foot for 300 feet. That would be
$15,000. He said he thought it would be better to eliminate the
entire line and get residents turned over to Water District 125.
He said he had not talked rates with Water District 125 but we
would buy water from them at a rate we could provide water to the
people. He said he would bring a report to the next regular
Council Meeting with his recommendations. Mayor Bauch said the
report will require a formal motion transferring the funds. Mr.
Monaghan said he would like to get permission to do the repair on an
emergency basis to put in the new line. Councilman Bohrer said he
understood the request is to put in a new line; get the 12 residents
to get water from Water District 125, and cut off the other line.
Mr. Monaghan said he would like to turn the whole system over to
Water District 125 eventually, but he would like to point out the
magnitude of the damage and get funds transferred. He said the
ideal solution would be to arrive in a short time with an agreement
with Water District 125 to take over the area. He said he did not
know how long the leak has been there and how much damage has been
done.
MOVED BY JOHANSON, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO
PREPARE A REPORT AND IT BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 2, 1978
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
Councilman Traynor asked what action the Council will take? Mayor
Bauch said it will be an ordinance. Mr. Monaghan said the leak
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
September 25, 1978
Page 3
DISCUSSION Contd.
Water Service to
Seattle Rendering
Works contd.
Salary of Engrg.
Technician
Prop. Ord. on
Noise Control
Prop. Res. on
Annexation of
Riverton Area
was just discovered the other day, and a train might be going
over the tracks when it gives away. Councilman Bohrer said it
sounds like the water has been leaking for at least 18 months. Mr.
Monaghan said that could be. There has been a loss of water for
some time and meters were put in to check the loss, in the course
of doing the survey the leak was found.
*CARRIED.
Councilman Harris said this subject was discussed at the Finance
and Personnel Committee meeting and it was decided to accept Terry
Monaghan's suggestion to change the title of Engineering Technician
from salary grade 9 to 8. Terry Monaghan, Director of Public Works
said they had in the budget in 1977 an engineering technician at
grade 9. We had a person in that position who was hired as a
public works inspector and he left the City early in the year. He
said we have attempted to fill that position. It was filled tem-
porarily with a young graduate civil engineer from the university
and then he left. He said we had advertised the job on three
occasions. He said he had numerous responses but have been unable
to fill the job at the salary. The job description requires
three years experience and junior college. We cannot get anyone
with the qualification and the experience that he would feel com-
fortable hiring, he said. He continued he would like to establish
a junior engineer type title at grade 8 salary which would allow
us to cover the spectrum of a graduate civil engineer or an exper-
ienced engineer technician. He said his department had functioned
without this person since April, except for the short period of
time in June and July. He said at the present salary they cannot
attract the right person. All of the resumes are either over-
qualified or under qualified. He said he thought the City should
get a professional onlvr college or a novice Graduate engineer.
He said they would like to raise the pay one level higher to bring
it in a more competitive position. Councilman Bohrer said he would
like to see some kind of a comparison range within the City and
some of the surrounding cities for this position. Are we proposing
to pay less than if a person went to a comparable position in
another City? Mr. Monaghan said the answer is yes we pay lower.
He said he would have a packet next week for a comparison. Mayor
Bauch said this position was never put in the salary plan. The
salary was pegged at grade 9 which was the salary paid the engineer-
ing technician. The engineering technician was part time and then
was put on full time with the benefits.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT COMPARISON INFORMATION BE
PREPARED BY STAFF AND IT BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 2, 1978
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. CARRIED.
Councilman Bohrer said the next thing the Council should do would be
prepare a resolution on what they are going to do.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE MATTER BE REFERRED TO
THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH COMMITTEE. CARRIED.
Kjell Stoknes, OCD Director, said the wheels have been set in
motion for the annexation of the Riverton area. He explained that it
has come to his attention that the King County Boundary Review
Board requires submission of an Environmental Questionnaire and
Negative Declaration in conjunction with the application or request
for them to consider the proposed Riverton Annexation. He said he
was recommending that the Resolution passed on the Riverton Annexa-
tion be reconsidered and voted down. After reversing the decision
on the Resolution, it was his recommendation that the City Council
review the Environmental Questionnaire and the Negative Declaration
and then redecide upon the adoption or rejection of the Resolution
regarding the Riverton Annexation, based upon the information
provided in the Environmental Questionnaire. He said this
procedural item needs to be accomplished prior to submission of
the annexation petition to the King County Boundary Review Board.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
September 25, 1978
Page 4
DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Res. on
Annexation of
Riverton Area
contd.
Prop. Ord. fixing
amt. of tax levies
necessary to raise
funds to meet est.
expenditures 1979
Prop. Ord. relating
to sale of alcoholic
beverages (Referred
by Public Safety
Health Committee)
Prop. Ord. amending
Criminal Trespass
(Referred by Public
Safety Health
Committee)
City Attorney
Budget 1978
2 G y
Councilman Saul asked if this could be accomplished by adding some
part to the resolution that has been passed. Mr. Stoknes said
the City Council needs to demonstrate they have this information
and want the annexation in spite of it. He said he had not contac-
ted the City Attorney on this, but he would and let the Council
know. Mayor Bauch said the environmental information would be
included in the resolution. John Mann, Riverton resident, asked
who prepares the questions and who prepares the answers? Mr.
Stoknes said he would prepare the questionnaire and take it to
Ms. Robinson and she would sign it on the part of the citizens of
the area. The questions are mandated by State law and the answers
would be provided by Ms. Robinson.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT RESOLUTION 653 BE REVERSED
AND THE COUNCIL REVIEW THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTIONNAIRE AND NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AND THEN ADOPT OR REJECT A RESOLUTION REGARDING THE
RIVERTON ANNEXATION BASED UPON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTIONNAIRE AND IT BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER
2, 1978 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
Mayor Bauch said this procedure would preclude someone from suing
the City because we did not look at the environment. Councilman
Saul asked if the questionnaire would address taxes, roads, water,
sewers, etc. Mr. Stoknes said it would. He said he had a request
in the King County Assessor's office for tax information and he
would bring it to Monday night's meeting.
*CARRIED.
Mayor Bauch said a letter had been recieved from the County stating
the information regarding the tax levy will be available on the
9th of October. He said when it is received it will be on the
next regular Council Meeting.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 2, 1978 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
CARRIED.
Councilman Bohrer explained the need for the proposed ordinance in
order to control sale, possession, and consumption of alcoholic
beverages at the golf course and such functions as the dedication
ceremony. He said this proposed ordinance deletes drinking in the
parks which was in the original version. He said it is against
State law to allow drinking in the County and City parks. Council-
man Traynor said as far as drinking in the parks, the City Attorney
told the Council it was against the law so that takes care of that
part of it. This proposed ordinance takes care of the golf course.
Mayor Bauch said Administration Policy Procedure 01 -19 and 20
were rewritten in regard to the new ordinance.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BE
ON THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 2, 1978 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
CARRIED.
Councilman Bohrer said the intent of the ordinance is to reduce the
defense so someone trespassing cannot invent an excuse for being
where he is not wanted. If someone comes into a local shop and
has been previously convicted of shoplifting, the proprietor might
not want them on the premises. Under the proposed ordinance they
would not be permitted to remain.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BE
ON THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 2, 1978 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HILL, TO AMEND THE AGENDA AND CONSIDER
THE REMAINING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA PRIOR TO DISCUSSING THIS ITEM.
CARRIED.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
September 25, 1978
Page 5
STANDING COI MITTEE REPORTS
Community Affairs
Public Safety
Health
Finance Personnel
Public Works
CALENDAR REVIEW
Dedication of New
City Hall
RECESS
8:40 8:50 P.M.
DISCUSSION Contd.
City Attorney
Budget 1978
Chairman Traynor said they had no report to make at this time.
Chairman Bohrer said the proposed ordinances regarding alcholic
beverages and the ordinance amending criminal trespass had just
come out of the committee and were on the agenda this evening.
He said the committee plans to meet on Wednesday if Chief Crawley
is available to attend the meeting.
Chairman Harris said the subject of the engineering technician had
come from the Finance and Personnel Committee and had been considered
in this meeting.
Chairman Johanson said his committee had no report to make at this
time.
Mayor Bauch announced the dedication of the new City Hall on
Friday, September 29, from 3 to 7 p.m. He said this would be the
last time the Council would hold a meeting in the old City Hall.
He said the Court would meet in the old City Hall on Tuesday
night and the Planning Commission on Thursday, September 28, 1978
and they would be the last meetings in the old City Hall. Meetings
will be held in the Council Chambers in the new City Hall after
this.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MEETING RECESS FOR TEN MINUTES. CARRIED.
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called back to order by
Council President Van Dusen, with Council Members present as
previously listed.
Mayor Bauch said this item was put on the agenda because after
reviewing the August 31 budget it showed we were at a negative
$900 in the Other Legal and after we paid August bills and bills
incurred in September we are in Other Legal by $5,000. He said
we have spent $20,209. He said he had prepared a work sheet
showing how the money has been spent. He said he had asked Larry
Hard, Deputy City Attorney, to estimate what it will take to
finish the year. Mayor Bauch said there was money left in the
budget last year and it was dropped at the end of the year. He
said it was his recommendation that the $2,915 shown on the golf
course and under the Independent Water Company the $50 should be
transferred to Water. Deputy City Attorney Hard explained some
of the cases, stating they were averaging about three times as
many hours on specific legal cases as last year. He said one big
item was the massage parlor case, it has involved a lot of litigatior
and was not anticipated when the budget was prepared. Councilman
Harris asked if there was any way to recoup the legal fees. Mr.
Hard said the City is winning most of the cases. In the case of
a City a judge does not feel a City should have their legal fees
paid as an individual is paid. He said people are getting more
involved in litigation, the records show, rather than talking
things out. He said in 1915 there was one ticket issued in Tukwila,
according to old records. Mayor Bauch said the money will have to
come out of the Contingency Fund. He said he would estimate we
are going to need $10,000. Mr. Hard said the Kinney suit is in the
Court of Appeals and City Light suit is still outstanding. He
said the firemen's suit regarding social security is still pending,
also there is a new lawsuit, Schmid vs. the City. He said the
City Licht suit could be a genuine battle. They have not been
pushing the lawsuit, but if they are unable to sell the property
for anything near what they think it is worth, it may be a battle.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT AN ORDINANCE BE PREPARED
TRANSFERRING $10,000 FROM CONTINGENCY FUND INTO THE LEGAL BUDGET
AND IT BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 2, 1978 REGULAR COUNCIL
MEETING. CARRIED.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
September 25, 1978
Page 6
DISCUSSION Contd.
City Light Property
a7/
Mr. Ross Tunnell, audience, said he was present to talk about the
City Light property. He said he represented a group who is
interested in the property, but they do not want to bid on the
property until they know what they may be able to do with it. He
said they had approached the Office of Community Development with
plans, but were told they would have to have definite site plans.
Before they go to this expense they would like to know what the
Council will approve. He said he did not know if they would develop
the land or divide it into sections and sell it. He said they
had plans for office buildings, fill in some of the lake but have
at least a ten acre lake, with a walk around it that would be open
to the public. He said he was going to find out the exact dimen-
sions of the lake so it would be known. He said they had also
talked of a motel, high rises, and a bird sanctuary. He said they
do not want to spend money on plans unless they know the City will
accept a preliminary plat. Councilman Bohrer asked how the investors
would handle the lake on the plan. Mr. Tunnell said some of the
property would run into the lake. they propose to do some fill, he
said they wanted to build on the lake and notlose access to the
street. Council President Van Dusen said he was sure there would be
some development down there. Mr. Tunnell said they might prepare
the land and then sell it. He said on their plan they would show
the fill that would be put in and how the lake will be reduced.
Councilman Saul asked if there could be a contractors' agreement
that there would be a walk around the lake that would be open to
the public. Mr. Tunnell said they need a waiver because they plan
to do something to the lake. Council President Van Dusen said the
City has tried to preserve the lake, the City knows the area
should be developed and they would like to see a nice development
down there. Councilman Harris asked if the City could be assured
as to the size of the lake if it is purchased and fill put in.
Mr. Tunnell said that is what they proposed to do. He said they
would attempt to define the boundaries on a map. Mayor Bauch said
he was afraid Mr. Tunnell would lose the competitiveness of the bid
if he comes to the Council previous to purchase and shows what
can be done. Mr. Tunnell said they are fixed with a time limit
of November 7, 1978 to submit the bid for the property. He said
they would like to know the Council's decision in two and one -half
weeks.
Councilman Bohrer said it is likely there are people with eyes on
the property who would welcome guidelines as to what the City would
accept as far as the development is concerned. He said he would
suggest the Staff (OCD) come back to the City Council with ground
rules as to what might be acceptable to the City on that site:
what is the size of the lake, how much access must there be, parking
requirements, need of a wild life sanctuary. If these ground
rules were set down then everyone would have them. Larry Hard,
Deputy City Attorney, said it would have to be recommendations
from the Office of Community Development. He said the people
requesting the information do not own the property, by putting
limitations on the land you are depriving the owners of their own
use of the property, you would be imposing restrictions on it.
Councilman Bohrer said there is an interested party who has no
legal interest in the property who is coming and asking for an
interpretation and the City provides him with an interpretation.
He asked if the City was not being biased. Larry Hard said if
the Council decides tonight on this issue it will have to have the
decision binding to everybody. Councilman Harris said if it were
not for the shrinking of the pond she would say go right ahead
with the plans. Larry Hard said he thought Councilman Bohrer's
idea of City ground rules for the property was a good one. He
said he would like to see guidelines of what the City would consider
the land could be used for. He said it would be a statement to those
who wanted to buy the land. These people need to know what the
goals would be and there is a time limit to submit bids.
Councilman Traynor said if we put a minimum of 10 acres on the lake
that is how it will end up. Sharon Mann, audience, said if the
Council develops general guidelines as to how they would like the
property developed, there are professional people who could meet
the guidelines.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
September 25, 1978
Page 7
DISCUSSION Contd.
City Light Property
contd.
ADJOURNMENT
10:10 P.M.
Councilman Harris said the present zoning on the property is
CM. The zoning tells how much parking there should be so we do
not need any guidelines on that. Mr. Larry Hard suggested there be
some trading, perhaps some parking for the size of the lake, and the
wild life sanctuary. Councilman Johanson said City Light is a
municipal entity and they have deprived the City of the taxes on
that property for 15 years. Theoretically, they bought the
property to be a sub station, then we developed all around it.
They have never paid taxes on the property like everyone else
has had to. He said he did not think that was right. Councilman
Traynor said he thought the quickest way would be to consider the
preliminary plans. Larry Hard said this fact as to what would be
considered in the preliminary plans should be published so everyone
would know about them. Councilman Saul said City Light would have
a list of everyone who has called about the property. They could
be notified. Mayor Bauch said many had asked about the property.
Mr. Tunnell said he was not asking for guidelines, he was asking
permission to present their plans for the property.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO COME
TO THE OCTOBER 9, 1978 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING WITH SOME
POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSTRAINTS OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE
SEATTLE LIGHT SITE AT ANDOVER PARK WEST AND STRANDER BOULEVARD.
CARRIED.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE
WHOLE MEETING ADJOURN. CARRIED.
Gary Van Dusen, City Council President
Norma Booher, Recording Secretary