HomeMy WebLinkAbout1979-05-14 Committee of the Whole MinutesMay 14, 1979
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER Council President Bohrer called the Tukwila City Council
Committee of the Whole Meeting to order.
PUBLIC HEARING
MINUTES
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL City Hall
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING Council Chambers
ROLL CALL OF LIONEL C. BOHRER, MABEL J. HARRIS, GEORGE D. HILL, DANIEL J.
COUNCIL MEMBERS SAUL, DWAYNE D. TRAYNOR, GARY L. VAN DUSEN.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE
APRIL 23, 1979 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING BE APPROVED AS
PUBLISHED. MOTION CARRIED.
Discrimination Councilman Saul, Chairman of the Community Affairs Committee,
against children explained that the Council had received a letter of complaint
by Apartment from a lady who was unable to find apartment housing in the
Owners City of Tukwila because she had children.
Council directed staff to investigate this complaint. The report
showed that, of the 950 units surveyed, there were 10 children.
Most of the apartments did not allow children. Council President
Bohrer said the Committee is reviewing some policy alternatives.
The reason for the Public Hearing is to hear from both apartment
owners and apartment renters about what the problems are and
why there are so few children in the apartments.
With this, Council President Bohrer declared the Public Hearing open.
Mr. Stanley Berman, Maple Crest Apartments (65th Ave. South)
said they do not allow children. The complex was not designed
for children. There is no playground area, there are possible
danger areas, and it does not have sufficient sound proofing
between the walls. You need to balance the need to rent to
children and the right of people who have raised their children.
I have another complex in Tacoma where we allow children. The
building is suitable for children. Council should very carefully
weigh the pros and cons -not all buildings are suitable for
children and there are mature adults that do not want to live
with children.
Councilman Saul commented that he is not in favor of government
regulations, but if that is what we need to make balconies safe
and have sound barriers then maybe that is the way.
Mr. Berman said the building was built in 1978 and met all the
codes in existence at that time. If we have to bring our
buildings up to a certain standard, you'll have an inflation
problem -when the costs go up they have to be passed on.
Council President Bohrer commented that the City has passed a
resolution of intent to adopt noise regulations which will give
the City some authority to regulate noise from loud stereos.
Mr. Clifford Godwin, Secretary /Treasurer of the Canyon Estates
Condominium Association, said he hopes Council will make special
consideration for condominiums in planning an ordinance. Many
of the original purchasers rent their units in this complex.
The complex was, in its bylaws, designated as an adult only
complex with children under 14 years of age not admitted. These
people made their investment and did not expect children to be
there. The condominium owner should be given particular consideration.
Councilman Saul asked if the complex is about 50% rentals. Mr.
Godwin said about 50 some are still owned by the developer
and some are rental units that were purchased for investment by
individuals.
Mr. K. Millward, Property Manager for Pacific Management Company,
said they manage three complexes consisting of 250 units. They
are the La Vista Estates, Southcenter, and Hillcrest Apartment
units. They do accept families- -they do not discriminate against
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
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PUBLIC HEARING Continued
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Discrimination children. They do rent to families that qualify by way of
against children income and if they can determine that the parents will properly
by Apartment care for the children. In these buildings certain areas are
Owners suited for children and certain areas are best suited for adults.
The cost of refurbishing after a family leaves is much greater
than when they don't have children. By forcing owners to
rent to all children constitutes discrimination against those
who choose to live in a child free environment.
Council President Bohrer asked if families with children pay
a larger damage deposit. Mr. Millward said n o they don't.
They screen the families and ask who cares for the children
when the mother is not there. They have 250 units and have 36
to 40 children.
Councilman Harris asked if it would be worthwhile to raise the
damage deposit for families with children. Mr. Millward said
they use the deposit as an incentive to get tenants to clean
the unit. They try to rent to good families.
Mr. Allan Merkle, Southcenter Court Apartments (14081 58th
Ave. South), said they are a small complex and do have children
in the building. He had one child that caused considerable
damage to walls getting his bike in and out of the building.
One of his biggest problems in renting to families with children
is that mothers are not home to look after them. He will
continue to rent where the mother is there all the time. He
would not like to see a law passed saying he has to rent to
families with children as he feels he has some right when he
owns the building.
Ms. Karen Wharton, South King County Tenants Union, said she
didn't understand the problem; we were all children at one
time. At the present time in King County we have a 5% condo
conversion rate and a 2% vacancy rate. She gets upset when she
hears a landlord complain about a problem tenant. If you use
adult judgment and screen your tenants, you shouldn't have any
problems. If you have problems there are legal ways to handle
them. Todays inflation and economy is forcing both parents to
have to work. We have to make provisions for children. The
landlord is in the business for profit. The tenant is a consumer
and entitled to certain rights. There are responsibilities and
obligations on both sides. To say that you will make no provision
for children is insanity -they are our future.
Councilman Saul asked what a Tenant Union is and was told a
union for tenants dedicated to tenant rights.
Mr. Ray Vomenica, complex on 56th Ave. South, asked Council to
consider the many H.U.D. sponsored projects using tax payers'
money, and the apartment owners are competing against them
at 7% interest when he pays 92 -12 He said they rent to
everybody but families and cited the qualifications. The profit
is not in renting to families. There are places for children.
They need play area -they need more than a third floor apartment.
Why doesn't Tukwila have low cost H.U.D. projects? The problem
is suitability, and most of the buildings in Tukwila are not
designed for children because of the terrain. It is all hills
and most of these buildings are sitting on a cliff. Tukwila is
an Industrial /Commercial type of apartment population. Maybe
you need to look at some of the code, maybe use some H.U.D. money
so you do get more units for children.
Councilman Saul said Tukwila probably has more open space,
trails and parks per capita than anywhere in King County. We
probably have one of the largest working forces for this small
area. This is why you find it beneficial; and some of these
people have children.
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May 14, 1979
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PUBLIC HEARING Continued
Discrimination Mr. Vomenica said they built their building in 1965 and nothing
against children was ever mentioned to them about children and now you want to
by Apartment change things overnight. This is not the answer. Upgrade your
Owners codes so that new buildings are liveable for children. Stair-
ways, lanais and parking lots are not children's playgrounds and
that is what we have here.
RECESS:
8:00 p.m.-
8:08 p.m.
PRESENTATION
Ms. Colleen Willhite, South King County Tenants Union, commented
that it is going to cost the same amount to repair damages
whether they are done by children or adults. This is what
damage deposits are for.
Mr. Stanley Berman said most adults are more mature and don't
cause destructive damage. It costs more or the area is in-
adequate is why landlords don't rent to families with children.
We are looking for a return on our dollar. We don't care who
we rent to as long as the property is maintained.
Ms. Wharton asked that Council use sound adult judgment.
With sound judgment there can be an environment for children.
Children are our future; there has to be provisions made.
People cannot afford to buy homes unless there are two
working parents so you're going to have tenants with children.
Landlords are in it for investment and profit and have got to
recognize human needs.
There being no further comment, Council President Bohrer declared
the Public Hearing closed.
Council declared a five minute recess. Council President
Bohrer called the Committee of the Whole Meeting back to
order with Council Members present as previously reported.
Bicycle Trails Council President Bohrer said the next subject is bicycle
in South King trails and how King County's plans relate to Tukwila. We are
County now becoming concerned that, sometime in the future, we might
want an alternate mode of travel for distances a little further
than people normally walk. He has invited Mr. BeYoung Ahn,
Chief Transportation Planner for King County to make a presentation.
Mr. Ahn displayed a map of the completed and proposed King County
Bicycle Plan. He explained that the Councy received $400,000 on
behalf of all of the agencies for the Interurban Bicycle Project.
The County has just been the lead agent on the project. Saturday,
1:30 p.m. at Auburn City Hall will be the dedication of the
Interurban Trail. In the beginning it was estimated that
$400,000 would build the trail from Fort Dent to the South
County Line. As it turned out they were able to pave little morE.
than 5 miles, 10 feet wide. They will now do what they can to
improve the existing shoulder areas of the local citizen streets
to extend access from Tukwila south to the County Line. He
is trying to convince King County Officials to include in
their roadway standards provisions for bicycles.
Mr. Ahn explained the extensions of the trail to the north.
They are trying to tie the City of Seattle's Bicycle Path
Program with Renton and Tukwila.
He introduced David Mark from his office. Mr. Mark described
some of the projects King County is working on and how they are
attempting to use a systems approach to try to get a network of
bicycle facilities connecting the various jurisdictions.
Mr. Mark suggested that the local agencies can write to their
Senators and Representatives urging them to appropriate the money
that has been earmarked for purposes such as this. When this
money has been released, one of the first things they would like
to do is complete the Interurban Trail.
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May 14, 1979
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PRESENTATION Continued
Bicycle Trails Councilman Saul asked if drinking fountains and sani cans will
in South King be installed along the trails. Mr. Ahn said they will not be
County installed but will use directional signs to the nearest facility.
DISCUSSION
Waiver Request
McNamara Invest-
ment Company,
53rd Ave. So.
c2
Mr. Mark explained that the Interurban Trail is a multipurpose
facility. There is an area where horses can be ridden. They
expect to see bikers, joggers, hikers and horseback riders on
the trail.
Council President Bohrer asked if the thrust of the program is
recreation or transportation. Mr. Ahn said transportation.
Council President Bohrer said the City has a plan to extend
Christensen Trail to the Fort Dent area. He asked if there is a
plan to continue the trail to the Seattle Industrial area.
Mr. Ahn said they are discussing it -it is possible. Bicycling
and bicyclying related activities are so new that Public Works
Departments are reluctant to spend anything more than necessary.
Kjell Stoknes, OCD Director, explained that McNamara Investment
Company was required to submit an application for a waiver for
their property on 53rd Avenue South (adjacent to the Bow Lake
Pipeline) because the Comprehensive Plan shows the property
as Single Family Residential while the present zoning is R.M.H.
Mr. Stephen Clark, Harstad Associates, displayed drawings and
made a presentation on behalf of Mr. McNamara, the applicant.
They have worked to develop a complex that complies with the
goals and policies of the Comprehensive Plan. The property is
located on 53rd Avenue South at approximately South 158th.
The elevation of the property is from 120 feet on the northeast
to 165 feet on the southwest. The entrance is proposed on
53rd at the northern corner of the property. One of the
basic questions in planning for this site is slope stability.
They are relying on the report of Shannon Wilson, Inc.,
Geotechnical Consultants, who made an evaluation of the site in
1976. There are two mechanisms of instability to consider.
One would be a shallow failure in which the surficial fine
sand moved downslope. The second type would be a deep failure
where the movement occurred along a sliding plane at some depth.
The Shannon report states, "The remedial measures installed
to protect the freeway interchange are designed primarily to
minimize the potential for deep- seated failure. The property
appears to be more stable relative to a deep- seated type
movement than the hillside property to the south and the
northwest." The report further states, "We have no evidence
of recent deep- seated movement and, by carefully planning the
development, the potential for deep failure would not be
increased. The shallow movement could be reduced by installation
of an interceptor with perforated pipe to collect the ground-
water." He presented Council with a copy of the report.
Councilman Harris asked if this is a deeply wooded area. Mr.
McNamara said no, just small alders and brush. The large trees
along the stream will be maintained.
Mr. Clark continued; the developer proposes the construction
of 11 tri- plexes (33 units), each having a building area of
1,800 square feet and containing approximately 1,200 square feet
of living space per dwelling unit. Of this total area of the
site (2.7 acres) approximately 19,800 square feet will be
utilized as building area, 32,500 square feet impervious surficial
area, and 64,910 square feet reserved for open space and land-
scaping. Approximately 2.3 parking spaces per unit will be
provided, a portion of that underneath the buildings.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
May 14, 1979
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DISCUSSION Continued
Waiver Request
McNamara Invest-
ment Company,
53rd Ave. So.
RECESS:
9:25 P.M.-
9:32 P.M.
Authorization to
Call for Bids
LID #29 (62nd
Ave. So. So.
153rd)
Authorization to
Call for Bids
1979 Accelerated
Street Improvement
Project
Formal Motion:
Authorizing
modifications to
certain annexation
legal descriptions
Discussion with
Bob Richards,
Policy Analyst
9% to 10% of the area will be maintained specifically for
play areas for small children.
Mr. Clark said that does not count the storage and parking
area on the ground floor. It would have the appearance of
a two story structure but would be three levels. In this
development they are trying to achieve a cluster of row
houses and still maximize the open space to create a sense of
community.
Council declared a five minute recess.
5-3
Council President Bohrer verified that they are proposing
approximately 600 square feet per floor in a two story structure.
Mr. Clark read and commented on portions of Attachment A,
Relationship to the Comprehensive Plan: Goal and Policies,
submitted with their Application for Waiver and called Council's
attention to the complete document.
He said they are cognizant of the attitudes of the citizens
of the area. They would not like to see the development of
a high density complex. But, McNamara Investment is talking
about meeting the market demand for housing units in a price
range that is affordable ($50,000 $60,000) in a family oriented
community. This proposal does not warrant disapproval. Council
input is certainly necessary in working out the site plan to put
together a quality development.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THIS ITEM BE ON THE
AGENDA FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 21, 1979. MOTION CARRIED.
Council President Bohrer called the Committee of the Whole Meeting
back to order with Council Members present as previously reported.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR
BE AUTHORIZED TO CALL FOR BIDS FOR LID #29 WITH THE BID OPENING
TO BE JUNE 26, 1979. MOTION CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR
BE AUTHORIZED TO CALL FOR BIDS ON THE 1979 ACCELERATED STREET
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT (SO. 153RD ST. 64TH AVE. SO.) WITH THE
BID OPENING TO BE JUNE 26, 1979. MOTION CARRIED.
Kjell Stoknes explained that this is on the agenda to comply with
the annexation procedures. After action is taken by the City on
an annexation, the Boundary Review Board requires the legal
description be sent to King County Public Works Department. They
review it for accuracy and recommend changes. This Formal Motion
is to recognize that this has happened in the Segale, Riverton,
Allentown and Crestview annexations. The areas have not changed,
the only thing that has changed are a few words in the legal
descriptions.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT THIS ITEM BE PLACED ON
THE AGENDA FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 21, 1979. MOTION CARRIED.
Council President Bohrer called attention to the contract signed
with Bob Richards that indicates the job description and respon-
sibilities for the Policy Analyst position. It also includes three
specific tasks to be worked on. They are:
1. Analysis of Council Manager form of Government.
2. Child Discrimination in apartments. (Tenant /Landlord)
3. Development of administrative records management system
for council action.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
May 14, 1979
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DISCUSSION Continued
Discussion with
Bob Richards,
Policy Analyst
Full -Time
Mayor Position
Council President Bohrer asked Council if any of the Committees
had specific items they would like help with. He explained that
he and Bob will work out a schedule of hours so he will be
available to meet with individual Council members.
He reminded Council that, for major tasks, he will help set the
priorities. For individual small requests Council can feel free
to contact Bob directly for assistance.
Councilman Harris, Finance and Personnel Committee, said they
would use him on the Labor Negotiation Item but will meet directly
with him. Councilman Saul suggested he could help on the subject
of conversion of apartments to condominiums.
Councilman Traynor said he would like to discuss, how does the
Council feel, is it time to go to a full -time Mayor? If there
are enough that feel the City is ready for a full -time Mayor,
it should go to Committee for a salary recommendation. Since
this is election year it should be done before filing time.
Councilman Van Dusen said there are really three items involved.
(1) What type of government do we want? Do we stay Mayor Council
or do we go Council- Manager. (2) Do we go full -time Mayor?
(3) If we go full -time Mayor, we have to set the salary.
Council President Bohrer said that research Mr. Richards has done
shows that there is not time for the Council to decide to go to
a Council- Manager form of government and achieve this during the
Mayor's current term in office. If Council does decide to change
the form of government it must be after the next election.
Councilman Harris asked if it can be done in the middle of a term
and was told it can be. Mayor Bauch explained that if the form
of government is changed there must be an election held for all
Council positions.
Mr. Richards reviewed the alternatives open to a City if they go
to a Council- Manager from of government. He then explained that
it would take two elections to change the form. The first is
to let the citizens decide if they want to change the form of
government and, if they do, the second is to elect Council members.
Council President Bohrer said, after reviewing this procedure, the
current decision is to go forward with the current form of government
and now resolve the question of a full or part -time Mayor.
Councilman Traynor said Council has put this off until election
year and now, this is election year.
Council President Bohrer said his position is that the City needs
a full -time executive because of the amount of the budget and the
number of employees. This warrants a full -time executive for the
City.
Councilman Traynor said the City is in need of a full -time manager.
Councilman Hill said you don't run a business with a budget the
size of this City's with a part -time manager.
Councilman Van Dusen suggested maybe the citizens should vote on
this. Mayor Bauch said Council could hold a Public Hearing and
let the people express themselves.
Councilman Harris said she has always been in favor of a part
time Mayor. This should be a position everybody can run for.
Few people would be willing to leave a job for four years and then
try to go back to it.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
May 14, 1979
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DISCUSSION Continued
Full -Time
Mayor Position
Ordinance to
prohibit the
parking of
commercial
vehicles in
residential
areas
Ordinance recreat-
ing the Tukwila
Planning Commission
EXECUTIVE SESSION:
10:47 P.M.
11:28 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT:
11:30 P.M.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY TRAYNOR, THAT THE MATTER OF
DETERMINING THE SALARY FOR A FULL -TIME MAYOR BE PUT IN THE
FINANCE AND PERSONNEL COMMITTEE.*
Mayor Bauch recommended that the Committee set the salary at
a level "0" on the Salary Plan.
*MOTION CARRIED.
Councilman Van Dusen said the City Attorney recommended adoption
of this ordinance and suggested the penalty be set at $500. In
Section 1, a. make the gross vehicle weight 8 thousand pounds
and in Section 3 have the imprisonment be not more than 90 days.
Mayor Bauch said he has a problem with the hours noted in Section
2. This would allow vehicles to park on the streets during day
time hours. He recommended putting a comma after residential
district and striking the hours. He also said he has a problem
with Section 2, c. "in order to make necessary repairs" and
recommended that "necessary" be changed to "non recurring." He
said the City Attorney agrees with both changes.
MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
BE CHANGED AND PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF MAY
21, 1979. MOTION CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
RECREATING THE PLANNING COMMISSION BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE REGULAR
MEETING OF MAY 21, 1979. MOTION CARRIED.
MOVED BY TRAYNOR, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT COUNCIL GO INTO EXECUTIVE
SESSION. MOTION CARRIED.
Executive Session called to discuss labor negotiations between
Supervisors and Office Personnel and the City of Tukwila.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY HILL,THAT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION
BE CLOSED. MOTION CARRIED.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY HARRIS,THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE
WHOLE MEETING ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED.
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