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Home My WebLink AboutTIC 2018-11-13 Item 3F - SCATBd - 9/18/18 Meeting Summary / 10/16/18 Meeting AgendaSOUTH COUNTY AREA TRANSPORTATION BOARD (SCATBD) September Meeting Summary —Tuesday, September 18, 2018 Introductions & Approval of meeting summary — August SCATBd meeting minutes approved. ii. Reports and Communications — • Vice Chair Johnson asked that a Seattle Times article about car subscriptions be distributed to the membership. • Cynthia Foley, Regional Transit Committee: May act on strategic plan report on Metro's performance. • Councilmember Kwon: Airport hosting public meetings on the Strategic Airport Master Plan and is accepting public comments both at meetings and online. • National League of Cities: Accepting applications for federal advocacy committee. iii. Reema Griffith, Executive Director, WA Transportation Commission - Road Usage Charge Pilot Program — The Road Usage Charge is a leading idea nationally for toolbox of transportation funding. Gas tax won't be able to fund future transportation needs. CA and WA currently have the highest gas taxes in the nation. Only 8 cents of the 49.4 cents of gas tax levied currently is available for new projects, remainder pays for debt and previous bonds to fund projects. By 2027, 70% of state gas tax revenues will go to debt service payments. The fuel efficiency bar continues to rise. Current federal CAFE standards: 54.5MPG by 2025. Projections show that car mpg standards will increase faster. Auto manufacturers are setting the pace and Volvo, GM, Toyota, Ford and Tesla all have plans for electric and hydrogen vehicles — non -gas engines will yield lower gas tax revenues. 45% decline in gas tax revenue is expected by 2035. Road usage charge a potential solution rather than paying by the gallon of gas. WA is not alone but along with West Consortium is testing, researching and enacting road usage charge programs. Eight states are conducting research, four are testing and one has a legislatively -enacted program (Oregon). Since 2012, the WA Transportation Commission has led RUC work with a 25 member steering committee comprised of diverse stakeholders including three commissions, eight legislators. Costs to administer the system could be 2-8% of overhead but will vary if WA is alone vs. national or with other state implementation. Another cost reduction if billing for charges could be paired with phone or other utility companies. Assuming that there will be two systems (gas and Road Usage) while debt is being paid off and Road Usage Charge begins, that consumers will pay one but not both systems simultaneously. Why not just keep increasing the gas tax? We would have to raise the gas tax by 1.5 cents per gallon, per year on all vehicles from 2019-43 to equal the net revenue from a RUC of 2.4 cents per mile. This would not address growing needs for improvements or maintenance. The transportation revenue line currently associated with all of this growth in Seattle is flat- big red flag indicating people making other less gas using transportation options. RUC would increase, tax for cars with lower mpg but costs to operate those cars would still be higher as gas costs are greater. RUC enables funding sustainability & policy harmonization. Out of state drivers can be captured. Small pool of people being included in the pilot program. 39 Pilot program: Mileage reporting options include a mileage permit (log), odometer reading, application with smartphone, plug in device with GPS, and a plug in device without GPS. Pilot participants — 30% odometer reading; 34% plug in device with GPS and 15% chose smartphone application. Only 1% chose the mileage permit. Pilot uses private sector provider to do the billing and technical work (DrivesNY or eMovis). Private companies collecting driving information may not be desirable to consumers. Pilot produces drivers scoring on breaking, cornering and driving behavior. 2,000 people participating that reflect the state's distribution of drivers: 78% use gas vehicles, 8% use hybrid, and 4% use electric vehicles. Questions: Notion is that you will pay either one or another system, not both. You would get a refund for or a credit. That is happening at an automated basis in the pilot. Q: Age demographic? Yes. Can send that information out. Q: How can you determine how much will be shared with local jurisdictions? Legislature could set forth a distribution as they do now with the gas tax. Some cities are asking that the actual miles traveled is used by jurisdiction vs. an allocation. Q: In-between state travel, we may be able to do something as we do with ORCA — putting the burden on the agencies or state vs. the consumer to distribute the allocation issue. Our state constitution has the 18th amendment — couldn't use gas tax dollars for anything except roads. This is an opportunity to revisit this. Parking lot for all of these issues ultimately local funding distributions will be addressed. Ultimately that is a political fight. Q: Will this system include congestion pricing? And is this socially just / equitably just? On the pricing pilot is not looking at pricing mechanism. Depends on if legislature wants to enable equitable pricing — they could. RUC is not a congestion pricing tool — not a tolling tool but legislature could make that work on certain corridors but only would work if everyone is using a GPS enabled system so we can capture where you are driving. (PSRC): Transportation Futures work did value equity pricing was a high priority for those that participants. We heard that loud and clear. Q: Privacy issues. Be careful of the technology side — insurance company gets info on driving behavior and then increases rates. We recognize that there are a lot of privacy issues associated with data. There are safeguards on other large data sources like ORCA data for example. Q: Thank you for presentation. Change is hard for the public, certain members. Public perception issue of being tracked. Is anyone collecting data on being tracked? Smoothness of this implementation will be based on the public's willingness to be tracked. Looming, legal fight as the larger discussion is ongoing about government's role as to how much data should be collected / protections. Q: WA second largest gas tax in the nation. Last year's survey showed that 58% surved didn't want it. And 59% said govn't didn't do a good job with transportation. 2,000 RUC participants will take three surveys as part of the process. At the end we will go out with another statewide survey. The initial survey was used as a baseline. Q: Goal of finding a new way to collect revenue for roads seems to be in conflict with another larger goal to get people to drive less. How would this be sustainable in the long run if people get out of their cars, and stop driving? No huge shifts in rural areas but shifts in urban areas with autonomous vehicles and other transit shifts. Future transportation paradigms would have to involve to a fleet taxation system vs. an individual system. 40 iv. SCATBd 2019 Legislative Agenda — Distribute 2018 agenda for members to review. Ask each SCATBd member city to share their legislative agendas. v. Public Comment — No public comment was received. Meeting adjourned 10:30 a.m. 41 SOUTH COUNTY AREA TRANSPORTATION BOARD (SCATBd) MEETING AGENDA Tuesday October 16, 2018 9:00 — 10:30 a.m. SeaTac City Hall 4800 South 188th Street SeaTac 1. Open Meeting (Breakfast provided by the City of Burien *) • Introductions • Approve September SCATBd Meeting Summary Action 9:00 a.m. 2. Reports and Communications • Chair or Vice Chair • Participant Updates (from RTC and Other Regional Committees) Report and Discussion 9:05 a.m. 3. E-Bikes — Policy, Use & Trends Barbara Chamberlin, WSDOT Active Transportation Division Director Report and Discussion 9:15 a.m. 4. Metro Rapid Ride Program Update Hannah McIntosh, KC Metro, Rapid Ride Program Director Discussion 9:55 a.m. 5. • Public Comment • Next SCATBd Meeting: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 ➢ Breakfast will be provided by the City of Tukwila* Discussion 10:25 a.m. *(Thank you to the City of Burien for bringing treats with absences expected for a variety of cities at this meeting. Beginning in November, the order for bringing treats will revert to the Cities of Tukwila, Algona, Auburn, Black Diamond then Covington — skipping Burien — and following in alphabetical order thereafter.) Link to the 2018 SCATBd Library of Materials: 2018 SCATBd Meeting Materials 42