HomeMy WebLinkAboutTIC 2019-01-23 Item 3F - SCATBd - 12/14/18 and 12/18/18 Meeting Summaries / 1/15/19 Meeting AgendaEASTSIDE TRANSPORTATION PARTNERSHIP (ETP)
Friday, December 14, 2018 — Meeting Summary
Public Comment: None
11. The ETP Nominating Committee recommends Mayor Debbie Bertlin (Mercer Island) as Chair
and Councilmember James McNeal (Bothell) as Vice Chair for the ETP in 2019.
III. Approval of November meeting summary: The November meeting summary was approved.
IV. John Stokes introduces new King County Department of Local Services Director, John Taylor.
John Taylor, Director of the new Dept. of Local Services described his experience in working in
the rural areas of unincorporated King County with the King County Flood Control District, as
assistant director of King County's Water and Land Resources Division. He has worked with
both the agriculture and forestry communities and explained the rationale for new Department of
Local Services to better serve unincorporated communities that receive direct service provision
from King County. The new department will contain the roads and permitting divisions — the
two agencies that provide direct service to unincorporated areas. The department is securing
agreements with other agencies that provide services in the unincorporated areas — surface water,
parks, animal services, on -site septic and gas plumbing to start and more as time goes on.
We will be working on a continuous feedback loop with input from the public to improve the
agreements and develop measures to track performance. The Council approved funding for a
new economic development position and an outreach lead.
Questions: Where do you anticipate the most interaction with the ETP and what will those issue
be centered around? There is a structural flaw in taxation and how roads funding operates in
this county. The way we approach managing stormwater here and in the state is ludicrous.
Water has no boundaries but we've carved up SWMwith each city managing with their own fees
and systems. The single biggest impediment to salmon is how we manage stormwater. The same
thing with roads funding and transportation.
What do you anticipate from this group? I plan to visit often. I don't know what long term
solution is.
When you talked about road network and when I think about the 250k people in unincorporated
King County, they are most likely working in one of our cities and congestion is making their
ability to get to our cities difficult. When you look at emergency response, please get a better
sense of that. Never met a firefighter that lives in Seattle. In fact, many come from out of state.
Like what you said about reorganization because many cities have same struggles. What services
will be removed? All services will remain the same.
Appreciate your comments about performance metrics. Effort will rise or fall on how successful
we are with performance measures. With the general public, our King County departments and
the Executive.
You talked about PAA's and rural areas, and how does that relate? In King County there are 58
tiny little pockets relics where cities didn't want to incorporate. The biggest are White Center,
Skyway and Federal Way. These areas have been getting lesser levels of service. The Service
Partnership Agreements will have to approach other elected officials like the sheriff and fire
districts. We hope to create a value proposition so the agreements add value to these agencies
and elected officials.
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Period of maximum constraint is coming with the SR99 closure. Councilmember Kathy Lambert
is particularly effective on articulating transportation and other unincorporated issues. People
are acknowledging the web between rural and urban. There is talk of levies next year for parks,
human services, and homelessness. When you look at your portfolio how do you start
anticipating any change and movement given that we are already in a period of max constraint in
terms of funding? I am from the East Coast and doing levies is a harder lift there. These are
trade off choices made by elected officials.
With all of these levies, what are King County's priorities? This executive has focused on
delivering the best run government. The new Department of Local Services is another step
toward delivering best run government services to unincorporated residents.
Woodinville has some concerns when talking about economic development in the rural area.
What are the plans and constraints? Economic development efforts are first focused on the urban
unincorporated area. King County has a great agriculture crew of eight people who focus in the
rural area. King County is 17th for agricultural production in the state.
V. Legislative Agenda: Motion to approve the 2019 Legislative Priorities. Legislative agenda
approved.
VI. 2019 Work Planning
• Technological advances / Smart cities technology update— Censors in roads, ITS concepts for
tech advances. Take some time for future orientation. Rideshares and autonomous vehicles
and core infrastructure, INRIX work, parking space active reader signs. The update should
help us know what we don't know and include both policy and other questions.
• Governor's climate change policy and policy for cities and the county.
• Scooters, safety elements, bikes and pedestrians.
• Legislative updates during session. Bill's going to come. Nice to know if things are stalled.
• Fewer topics, more time for conversation vs. presentations. One vs. two topics per meeting.
Shape agenda more actively.
• Eastside Rail Corridor: Is moving fast and is something people are interested in.
• Road Usage Charge once that report gets published.
• Vision 2050 update.
VII. Good of the Order:
• PSRC: Fascinating update about V 2050. Finding metrics for index of displacement.
• Fred Jarrett retiring, he has been vocal about high speed ferry. This is a good forum to hear
about water borne transportation.
• Discussion to schedule a special meeting with Congressman Smith to be held in addition to
or in place of regularly scheduled ETP meeting? ETP members voted (using thumbs up and
down) to retain the regular meeting in January and to add a second meeting with
Congressman Smith. The meeting with Congressman Smith could take place at the Mercer
Island Community Center or at the Clise Mansion, Marymoor Park, Redmond.
Meeting adjourned: 8:45 a.m.
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South County Area Transportation Board
December Meeting Summary - 12/18/18
1. Introductions & Approval of December meeting agenda: Meeting minutes approved.
2. Reports & Communications:
• SCATBd should include completion of SR18 from Raging River to Issaquah Hobart road on its
legislative agenda.
• RTC not meeting in December. January meeting will look at 2019-20 budget in transit. 1)
Directs Exec to develop regional funding strategy outreach process in 2019 to be discussed at
Sound Cities Assoc., PIC and RTC in January. 2) Directs Metro to develop mobility framework,
street space and prioritization of future mobility options.
• CM Kwon was re -appointed to transportation committee for Nat'l League of Cities.
3. Conversation with Congressman Adam Smith: Funding for regional transportation — infrastructure bill.
Good that the WA Leg passed Connecting WA. Federal piece lagging. Funding for transportation is not
keeping up with needs. Not just roads and bridges, other infrastructure. Comes down to where to find
the money. No perfect answer. Gas tax has dwindling return, more electric vehicles. We need a new
revenue source to fund transportation. Our region has done a good job at telling me what projects are
needed. Can't wait to see 406/167 interchange, other federally contributed projects. President has said
this is a priority but hasn't put forth a plan.
Second issue is the airport. We were able to get funding for Highline School Dist. in the FAA bill. Passed
a formalized process into the conversation about what happens at airports in the FAA bill. Better than
30 years ago when the Port (of Seattle) wouldn't talk with us. Also funding for the fine particulate study.
Big issue is massive growth in the region. One of them is at the airport — more flights. Most major
metro areas have more than one airport. Discussion we started in the 90's when building the 3rd
runway. No room for a 4th runway. Flights recently to Paine Field, shifting cargo flights to eastern WA.
Significant challenge for region to contain growth. Where? No one wants it, where to go? Has to be on
the table to discuss. Planes are getting quieter but there are 2-3-4 x more planes taking off, continuous
impact on communities.
Questions: POS doesn't' have the capacity to pursue different airports. What can you do? On state level get a
regional airport commission. POS is not supposed to be in charge of regional air transportation. POS has no
authority outside of KC. Looking at regional solution need a regional player. In the 90s set up a regional
commission, outside of POS to set up regional airport. Step One is to set up a state airport transportation
commission to meet all of the airport needs.
Thank you for coming toady. What about Paine Field, will it help? Significant communities opposed there but
there is a runway with capacity. Who is doing to decide how to slice up the flights? Any regional solution would
have to include Paine Field.
What are your thoughts on high speed rail? 90% of flights out of SeaTac are local flights. What are prospects for
high speed rail? Missed the window where it would be easier. Just like light rail back in the 1970's with billion
federal dollars, voters turned it down. Other technology is the first electric airline in partnership with Boeing.
Makes it cheaper and quieter, makes Moses Lake and other airports more attractive for carriers with electric
planes.
New regional airport. POS can't lead the charge. What can you do at the federal level? Can help with regional
leaders — can't pass legislation. Help with FAA. Rick Larson from PSRC will be chair of transportation committee
at FAA.
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Regional airport commission — have you been talking with any state legislators about this? What can we do to
propel this into reality? / started out here in this district. Continue conversations with Karen Kaiser and Sen.
Orwell. Also in the 37th and 11th and the Transportation Committees in the legislature.
Airspace is the largest constraint and unwillingness of any community to take this on. Portions of KC that wanted
the airport won over those that didn't want it. Possession is 9/10th of the law and SeaTac had an airport that
was already there. Best decision would have been to build another airport.
4. Legislative Agenda: Legislative agenda committee met, draft before you. Concentrate on the boxes.
Discussion over what to include — state highways, how to prioritize. Suggestions included listing hwy's
of significance, projects. Use other side and list highways. Use RTSI map and list of projects? Outline
SCATBd area over it.
5. 2019 Work Planning:
• PSRC Inventory and assessment on baselining studies for airport
• Pierce Transit on Bus Rapid Transit
• Paine Field — update on new service and constraints — Snohomish County
• Update on Road Usage Charge — WA Transportation Commission
• 5G technology for automomous vehicles, other "IT on steroids", smart cities advances and policy
6. Public Comment:
• Larry Craig — retired pilot from Alaska Airlines. Tight working relationship with Burien. We are going to
destroy Puget Sound unless we do something about SeaTac airport. Logistics problem for Alaska in
creating more travel at Paine Field. One solution only — to move Lewis McCord to Moses Lake.
• J.0 Harris. — concentrating on the supply side. Problems will be solved by another airport. Change the
laws governing SeaTac Airport. Putting proposal together at the Burien Airport Committee. Start
lobbying at the state level for Title 53 changed governing the POS.
• Debbie Wagner — Burien putting this on its legislative agenda to site second airport. Illustrated maps
with impacts of noise levels, health disparities, flight patterns with flights lower than 3,000 ft.
• Bernadine Lund: Airports are growing worldwide because demand is there and costs of flights are
getting cheaper and cheaper. State is ignoring cot limit and requirement. No conversation about toxins
coming out of planes. Compare with tobacco,everyone smoking then laws. Some communities are
talking about regulating air miles. In Sweden they shame people because they fly too much.
• Dana Holloway: Federal Way have never been an activist but it also effects property values but also
health. Soil and vegetation samples that show toxics. Appaled that City of Des Moines is building a
school under the flight path. Enocourage you to use your legislative powers to support second airport.
Coffee Service Update: Today we have coffee from local coffee shop. Staff will be bringing forth
language changes for operating procedures to allow use of dues for coffee service.
2019 Elections for Chair and V Chair: Susan Honda agreed to contact post January 7 but before the
February meeting.
Next meeting January 15.
Adjourned 10:50 a.m.
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SOUTH COUNTY AREA TRANSPORTATION BOARD (SCATBd)
MEETING AGENDA
Tuesday January 15, 2019
9:00 — 10:30 a.m.
SeaTac City Hall
4800 South 188th Street
SeaTac
1.
Open Meeting
(Breakfast treats provided by the City of Auburn)
• Introductions
• Approve December SCATBd Meeting Summary
Action
9:00 a.m.
2.
Reports and Communications
• Chair or Vice Chair
• Participant Updates (from RTC and Other Regional
Committees)
Report and
Discussion
9:05 a.m.
3.
Metro Paid Parking Permit Program
Tristan Cook, King County Metro, Transportation Planning
Discussion
9:10 a.m.
4.
WSDOT's SR 518 Study Update
Thomas Noyes, WSDOT Regional Planning
Discussion
and
Possible
Action
9:35 a.m.
5.
2019 SCATBd Legislative Agenda
Action
10:00 a.m.
6.
2019 SCATBd Leadership
Action
10:20 a.m.
7.
• Public Comment
• Next SCATBd Meeting: Tuesday, February19, 2019
> Breakfast treats will be provided by the City of
Black Diamond
Discussion
10:25 a.m.
Link to the: 2019 SCATBd Meeting Materials
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