HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-03-16 Committee of the Whole MinutesMarch 16, 1981
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL OF
COUNCIL MEMBERS
OLD BUSINESS
Cedarwood Habitat
Waiver Application.
Sunwood Project.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
M I N U T E S
City Hall
Council Chambers
Council President Van Dusen called the Committee of the Whole Meeting
to order at 8:4n p.m.
LIONEL C. BOHRER, MABEL J. HARRIS, GEORGE D. HILL, DORIS E. PHELPS,
DANIEL J. SAUL, Council President GARY L. VAN DUSFN.
Council President Van Dusen said the applicant, Mr. Campanella,
has requested his waiver application not be considered at this time.
In place of that discussion, the Sunwood project will be discussed.
Council President Van Dusen said Don Dally, developer of Sunwood,
has met all of the conditions of Phase II as requested by Council.
Mark Caughey, Acting Planning Director, said the Council had
requested Mr. Dally to prepare an inventory of trees on Phase II
site, showing which trees would be saved and which would be removed.
Mr. Dally has complied with the request. The inventory is introduced
and made a matter of record at this meeting. It was submitted in a
timely manner.
The City Council members looked at the inventory chart. Councilman
Bohrer said the development we are going to see will take all of
the trees off the top of the hill. It will be bare. This will
happen because the buildings are being sited where the trees
were. The time to consider this was when the Council approved the
project four years ago. We need to plan ahead or we get what we
bargain for.
Councilman Phelps asked if the developers were required to submit
landscaping plans? Mark Caughey, Acting Planning Director, said
it is a requirement for restoration.
Councilman Harris asked if the plans have been through the Planning
Commission? Mr. Dally said they have been approved by the
Planning Commission.
Inquiry on the Council President Van Dusen asked what the Council would like to
status of Sign Code. do with the sign code. Several letters have been received
requesting some action. It has been requested that we extend the
present sign code to take into account the economical effect it
would have on businesses that are concerned. There are threats
of law suits. The general request is to review the present
ordinance and make it more palatable to business.
Councilman Phelps asked about the scope of authority? She said
Mr. Dick Goe had requested a citizen's committee address the
matter of the sign ordinance with a projected meeting date of
April 16, 1981.
Council President Van Dusen said the citizen's committee is going
to look at the present sign ordinance. As a member of the Board
of Adjustment, he gets most of the letters about the present sign
code.
Mayor Todd said the City needs either a new sign code or an
extension of the present. There are many concerns about what
will happen when the enforcement date begins.
Jan Wiesner, Chamber of Commerce, said it might be a good idea
to extend the date and then review the sign code with both the
City and the business people offering input.
Councilman Phelps said at one time consideration was given to the
possibility of an ad hoc committee composed of staff, businesses,
etc. Maybe there are industry standards that should be known.
Mayor Todd suggested extending the present sign ordinance until
such time as a Planning Director is hired so his input can be
consi dered.
Al Pieper, Building Official, asked that the Council repeal
Ordinance No. 1175 (present sign ordinance).
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
March 16, 1981
Page 2
OLD BUSINESS Contd.
Inquiry on the
status of Sign
Code contd.
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Councilman Bohrer said part of the problem we had in 1980 was the
fact that a piece meal change was made. It appears that is what
is being asked for again, a piece meal change. Last year we
extended it with the anticipation that within three months we
would have a new sign code. We have just the same piece meal attempt.
This calls for a comprehensive approach. The City has had the
sign code since 1973. A number of businesses have complied with
it and some have nonconforming signs. The longer we try to
piece meal it the longer the problem exists. We seem to be in a
rut and just talk about it.
Al Pieper, Building Official, said he specifically asked the
Council for suggestions, whether they wanted to amend, revise
or what the present sign ordinance. He said he did not receive
any directions. He said if they want a new code he did not want
to come to them with a piece meal revision. He said he was not
inclined to do anything with the code until the Council tells him
what they want. If a new code is wanted, one can be drafted.
Before Ordinance No. 1175 was passed he said he did not have any
trouble with the sign code. The Planning Commission recommendation
for staff to put in ordinance form was not adopted. Ordinance
No. 1175 cannot be enforced. When businesses come in with their
attorneys they laugh at the ordinance. He asked that the sign
ordinance be repealed.
Councilman Harris asked Mr. Pieper to specify the portion of the
sign code that is unenforcible.
Mr. Pieper said Paragraph 7 (A) which relates to signs on faces
of buildings is an example. The word "faces" is plural and could
mean anything. You can have one sign on each street that the
building faces. The implication is that you can have more than
one sign when the building faces two streets.
The percentage chart in Ordinance No. 1175 is an improvement. He
said he spends a lot of time working with the ordinance.
Councilman Borher said much of the language of Ordinance No. 1175
that the Council is to repeal is the same as in the original
ordinance.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE PROCESS BE GIVEN TO
THE NEW PLANNING DIRECTOR, THAT IT BE A COMPLETE PROCESS, THAT
THERE BE SOME INVOLVEMENT TO BE DEFINED BY THAT INDIVIDUAL WHEN HE
COMES ON BOARD OF THE CITY STAFF, THE COUNCIL AND THE BUSINESS
COMMUNITY IN ESTABLISHING A NEW SIGN CODE.
Council President Van Dusen said he was afraid the Council is going
to have to be careful about what they are loading onto the
new Planning Director. We have some really capable candidates
and it is intended that he be involved with the new zoning ordinance.
Councilman Phelps said she was not really concerned about loading
the Planning Director with work because he has a capable staff
that will work with him to resolve the problems.
Mr. Pieper said the Planning Director, he was sure, would be
schooled in the planning field. The sign code is a regulatory code
and if there are revisions made it should be worked on by people
who are familiar With regulatory problems. That is the problem
he has with the sign code. The sign code itself is a good code,
except from a regulatory point of view it is hard to regulate. It
is ambiguous and a few things like that. He said he did not want
to step on any toes, but at the time the sign code was adopted
about 8 years ago, one of the problems that we had with it is that
it is quite obvious that the people who came up with the ideas,
and formerly the sign code, were not familiar with regulatory
procedures so he would say that the Planning Director and /or the
Finance Director and /or the Public Works Director is not the place
to put the sign code for revision. It should be kept in a
regulatory agency.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
March 16, 1981
Page 3
OLD BUSINESS Contd.
Inquiry on the
status of Sign
Code contd.
NEW BUSINESS
Shimatsu Rezone
request on
Southcenter Parkway
to change classifi-
cation from R -1 to
C -2.
Councilman Bohrer said the intent of his motion was that it be
assigned in the Planning Department and he surely would not exclude
the Building Official from participating in that process. In the
new organization, with the Planning Director as his direct super-
visor, he thought that would be appropriate.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY HILL, TO AMEND THE MOTION TO
INCLUDE THE EXTENSION OF THE PRESENT ORDINANCE NO. 1175 FOR ONE
YEAR OR PENDING REVISION TO THE EXISTING SIGN CODE AND IT BE
ON THE AGENDA OF THE APRIL 6, 1981 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
MOTION CARRIED.
*MOTION CARRIED, AS AMENDED.
Council President Van Dusen asked City Attorney Larry Hard to
draw up an extension to Ordinance No. 1175.
Mark Caughey, Acting Planning Director, said the Planning
Commission considered the subject rezone request at their
February meeting. The rezone request is motivated by the
applicant's wish to develop a fast food franchise restaurant
with a drive -up window on the site (Wendy's Hamburgers). The
restaurant project will require more extensive environmental
investigation before it is presented to the BAR. The action
recommended by the Planning Commission is only on the rezone
legislation at this time.
Mr. Caughey referred to the area on a chart, stating the westerly
25 feet of the rezone area (above elevation 25 feet) is extremely
steep and wooded. The remainder of the site is relatively flat
and marshy and rests three to five feet below adjoining street
level. During the Planning Commission review, staff proposed
that the rezone boundary be designated at the toe -of -slope
(approximate elevation 25 feet) in recognition of the Comprehensive
Plan environmental policy to discourage development on slopes
exceeding 20 The Commission chose to impose the following
stipulations: (1) Placement of fill material allowed to the
westerly toe -of -slope as it now exists without cutting off said
slope, and that the finished grade of the project be consistent
with that of the adjoining property to the south; (2) Any project
proposed on this site subsequent to City Council approval of the
subject rezone action shall require BAR review of site, architec-
ture and landscaping details prior to issuance of building
permits.
Mr. Caughey said Staff is not certain that the Commission's
proposed stipulation affords adequate protection of the slope
area, which is designated on the Comprehensive Plan as an area
of environmental sensitivity. It is suggested that the condition
be reworded to establish the toe -of -slope as the rezone's western
boundary.
Staff recommends that the Council approve reclassification from
R -1 -7.2 to C -2 of the Shimatsu property as described, subject to
the following stipulations, and that the City Attorney be
instructed to prepare the appropriate documents to effect said
rezone action: (1) The westerly limit of the rezone area shall
be revised so as to terminate at or before the toe -of -slope as
said toe -of -slope elevation existed on February 26, 1981; (2)
Any project proposed on this site subsequent to Council approval
of the subject rezone action shall require BAR approval of site,
architecture and landscaping details prior to issuance of building
permits.
Council President Van Dusen asked about a late comer's fee on the
LID. Mr. Caughey said Mrs. Shimatsu said it was all paid.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
March 16, 1981
Page 4
NEW BUSINESS Contd.
Shimatsu Rezone
request on
Southcenter Parkway
to change classific-
cation from R -1 to
C -2 contd.
Proposal for review
of the prop. Zoning
Ord. (Draft #4).
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Councilman Bohrer said the street elevation is between 21 and
22 inches so if you take this and grade it back it would still
be 3 feet below the toe -of- the slope.
Mr. Caughey said the applicant intends to fill and run it back.
Jim Paul, architect for Wendy's, said he was not representing
the owner of the property. He said there have been many
expenses involved such as a test report on the property near
toe -of- the slope. He said they want to stabilize the hill by
putting 3 feet of fill all of the way back to the 30 foot line.
He said it is his understanding that this is one of the last
pieces of property available in Tukwila and it has become very
expensive. The City will be taking a great deal of income away
from the applicant if the rezone is granted just to the
toe -of- the slope. Mrs. Shimatsu pays taxes on all of the
property. There are trees in the upper left hand corner of the
property.
Mr. Paul said Mrs. Shimatsu is losing about one -third of her
property, it is unbuildable.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT AN ORDINANCE BE DRAWN
UP INCORPORATING THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND REZONE OF THE
SHIMATSU PROPERTY AND IT BE ON THE AGENDA OF APRIL 6, 1981
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. MOTION CARRIED.
Council President Van Dusen said he had proposed four actions
the Council might take in their review of the proposed Zoning
Ordinance.
Proposal 1: Table discussion of zoning ordinance until new
Planning Director is confirmed, allow him to adjust to his new
position and make input into the zoning issue.
Proposal 2: Use approximately two hours of each Committee of
the Whole Meeting in discussing the zoning ordinance. The
problem with this proposal is that most Committee of the Whole
Meetings have a long agenda and it would be difficult to add
two hours to each meeting.
Proposal 3: Devote whole meeting night to discussing (1)
Residential Text, (2) Business Text, (3) Special Provisions,
(4) Map, (5) Conduct a Public Hearing. This would be 'hard i
schedule on regular Committee of the Whole nights. These meetings
would have to be special meeting nights.
Proposal 4: Using Committee of the Whole meeting or special
meeting nights discuss subjects as referred to in Proposals 2 and 3,
and address: (1) Planning Commission recommendations; (2) Issues
brought up at the informational Public Hearing of March 9, 1981;
(3) Other issues /concerns not identified at the hearing of
March 9, 1981 but which emerge as a result of on -going discussions.
Councilman Saul said the Council will start meeting on Tuesday
nights rather than Monday nights in May. He said he would
suggest that a meeting be held on Monday nights to discuss the
zoning ordinance and then use what time might be available on
Tuesday night at the Committee of the Whole meeting.
Councilman Bohrer said he did not want to wait until May to
start discussing the zoning ordinance. He suggested the Council
start the discussion by having a meeting on the fifty Monday of
March. Council President Van Dusen said several Council members
would be on a trip to Japan on that date and he doubted a quorum
would be present on March 30.
Councilman Phelps suggested the adoption of Proposal 2 and
eliminate a meeting on March 30, 1981.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
March 16, 1981
Page 5
NEW BUSINESS Contd.
Proposal for review
of the prop. Zoning
Ord. (Draft #4)
contd.
Quiet Claim to
property next to
Riverside Inn.
ADJOURNMENT
10:15 P.M.
Council President Van Dusen said the agenda for the Committee
of the Whole meetings is quite full and it would be hard to
devote much time to discussion of the zoning ordinance.
Councilman Hill suggested the Council discuss the zoning ordinance
on Tuesday nights in a special meeting until the Council starts
meeting on Tuesday night and then the Council meet on Monday
night and use whatever time might be available at the Committee
of the Whole Meetings.
Councilman Phelps said Court is held in the Council Chambers
on Tuesday nights.
Councilman Van Dusen said the Council may have to find another
location for the zoning ordinance discussions. A possibility
might be the use of the school, where there would be room for
the public to be accommodated when the residential area is
discussed. He said the Council will use Monday and Tuesday
nights for the discussions of the zoning ordinance and start at
the meeting of April 13, 1981.
City Attorney Hard said he had received a letter from Mr.
Parker, attorney, proposing that the City join in a complaint
for a quiet title to property the City owns next to the
Riverside. He said he would advise the Council as to the
advisability of participating.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MEETING ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED.
Counc`i President Gary L. Van Dusen
Norma Booher, Recording Secretary