HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-05-04 Special MinutesMay 4, 1981
7:00 P.M.
OFFICIALS IN
ATTENDANCE
DISCUSSION
Chap. 18.44,
Shoreline Zone
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL City Hall
SPECIAL MEETING Council Chambers
MI N U T E S
CALL TO ORDER The Special Meeting of the Tukwila City Council to discuss the
fourth draft of the proposed zoning ordinance was called to order
by Council President Van Dusen.
ROLL CALL OF COUNCIL LIONEL C. BOHRER, MABEL J. HARRIS, GEORGE D. HILL, J. REID
MEMBERS JOHANSON, DANIEL J. SAUL, DORIS PHELPS, Council President
GARY L. VAN DUSEN.
Mayor Frank Todd, Planning Director Brad Collins, Planner
Caroline Berry, Planner Fred Satterstrom.
Fred Satterstrom, Planner, said the purpose of this zone is to
implement the Shoreline Management Act of 1971 and to provide for the
regulation of development which impacts those areas of TukwilE under
the jurisdiction of the Shoreline Management Act consistent with the
policies of that act, all applicable Washington Administrative Code
regulations, and the goals and policies of the Tukwila Shoreline Master
Program which are contained in a separate document and adopted by
resolution. According to the Shoreline Management Program all
shorelines within Tukwila are designated "Urban." This chapter
applies to all development not exempted under the applicable
Washington Administrative Code on lands within 200 feet of the mean
high water line.
Mr. Satterstrom said all applications for a shoreline management
permit shall be submitted to the Planning Department. The
Planning Commission reviews and approves, approves with modifications
or denies all Shoreline Management Permit applications. In approving,
modifying, or denying a Shoreline Management Permit application, the
Planning Commission shall use the guidance provided in the goals and
policies of the City's Shoreline Master Program as well as any
additional requirements of this chapter and related references.
He explained the mean high water mark, and said these regulations
are proposed to substitute for Chapters 6, 7 and 8 of the Shoreline
Master Program.
Councilman Bohrer said the verbiage in the State law has been
around for a long time. It seems it is related more to lakes than
river banks.
Councilman Saul said he would like to have it explained how the
high water line is established. Councilman Bohrer said he believes
it says it is where the character of the vegetation changes. On
that basis there might be an argument for saying that it is back where
the valley wall goes up because that used to be the total of the flood
plain and that is where the character changes from the deciduous
trees and vegetation that should be on the valley floor to the
evergreens. What is wrong with that definition?
Councilman Saul said if you go down to Tecton they have poured
rock way down the bank so the vegetation quit way back so you
could say it was way back there where the rocks start. That would
put them in a lot different position. Councilman Bohrer said
that would be modified.
Fred Satterstrom said the Planning Department could look into this
definition and bring it back to the Council with some proposed
wording. We rely on King County to find out what their definition
is and come back at a later date.
Council President Van Dusen said the City should get a legal opinion
on this as to whether or not the City can change it.
Councilman Bohrer said the approach has made something that is
measurable. There are several ways of doing it. We could use
setback from the top of the bank as King County does, although that
can sometimes be difficult to ascertain. We should have something
that is easy to interpret. Some of our problems have been due to the
State's interpretation.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 4, 1981
Page 2
DISCUSSION Contd.
Chap. 18.44, Another thought that was brought up last fall at one of the committee
Shoreline Zone meetings was setback from the top of the bank as King County normally
contd. does, but again in some instances what that top of the bank is can
be as difficult to define as to where the vegetation change was. In
some cases it might be a reasonable sort of number where the bank
comes up at a reasonable grading and other cases there is very little
bank now so he was not certain that is always a reasonable approach
to it. He said for a matter of clarity we should have something
that is easily interpreted and a person can come to a chart and look
at it and say that it where it should be and it is readily under-
standable. Some of the problems of the past have come about because
of the vagueness of the State's ordinance and the tendency of people
to interpret it in different fashions.
Page 65
18.44090, Page 65,
Lines 3 and 10
Sec. 18.44.110
Page 67, Lines
8 -18.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT COUNCIL DIRECT THE
PLANNING STAFF TO DEVISE A DEFINITION FOR THE HIGH WATER MARK
REFERENCE FOR THE SHORELINE MANAGEMENT ACT REFERENCED TO THE RELEASE
RATE AS DISCUSSED AND WITH THAT RATE TO BE FINALLY DEFINED BY THE
COUNCIL.
Councilman Bohrer said as you get further down the river and into
the northern parts of the City the tidal action changes the river.
Councilman Hill suggested the City check with Auburn and Kent and
see what they have as a definition.
*MOTION CARRIED.
Brad Collins, Director of Planning, said this matter has been
researched and generally the Planning Commission is an advisory
board. This is an administrative type of decision.
Councilman Bohrer said that the "Department of Community Development"
should be changed to the "Planning Department" wherever it occurs
in the proposed ordinance.
Mayor Todd said he objected to the Planning Commission having
administrative authority as it is given in this section. It is
a needless waste of time and is not proper.
Chris Crumbaugh said under the present Shoreline Ordinance it is
administered by the Planning Department Director.
Mayor Todd said SEPA appoints by State law the Planning Director
as the official.
Chris Crumbaugh, audience, said he would recommend that this
section be changed so the Planning Department makes the adminis-
trative decision.
Council President Van Dusen asked if this should be an administrative
decision or a decision by the Planning Commission? He said he
would like to put it in the Planning Department and then go to the
City Council as necessary.
Brad Collins, Director of Planning, said the Planning Commission
could be used as a hearing process in case of a hearing.
Mayor Todd said all shoreline permit applications are advertised.
If someone wants to be heard on the matter they have that opportunity.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT COUNCIL DIRECT THE
PLANNING STAFF TO BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL WORDING FOR
SECTION 18.44.090. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilman Bohrer said the definitions of river environment,
low impact environment, and high impact environment should be
in Section 18.06.
Fred Satterstrom said they are in Section 18.06.620, on pages
15 and 16.
FUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 4, 1981
Page 3
DISCUSSION Contd.
Sec. 18.44.110,
Page 67, Lines
8 18 contd.
Pages 67 69,
Lines 19 20
Page 67, and Lines
29 and 30, P. 69.
Page 66, Line 4
Page 67, Line 25
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT THE THREE REFERENCED
ZONES BE PLACED IN THE DEFINITIONS AS INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. MOTION
CARRIED, WITH PHELPS VOTING NO.
Councilman Bohrer said he had a problem as it gives setback, but he
throught there should be alternatives. He found it confusing as
they are not identified as alternatives. He said he thought it was
a format problem. This should start as a new section.
Fred Satterstrom said there are two alternatives. The key
difference is the incentive to put the building back 50 feet and
then have the access which they cannot have in the 40 feet.
Chris Crumbaugh said there is a difference in where you can locate
the railroad tracks. The present master plan allows the access road
and there has been some development based upon that. He said they
would ask that the present existing master shoreline be kept.
Councilman Saul said in 1975 there was a cut put in for a railroad
spur. He asked how far that was from the shoreline.
Councilman Harris said on Page 66, Line 3, it says "there shall be
no disruption of existing trees or vegetation along the river
shore unless necessary for public safety or flood control. If
the vegetation is not going to be removed along most of the Green
River how can you have jogging trails or picnic spots. In 1974 the
river was not intended to be visual. She said she did not like the
idea of railroad tracks along the river. She asked what "shore"
means?
Councilman Saul said King County has control of the bank and they
can take down what they want to.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT THE WORD "SHORE" BE
REPLACED WITH THE WORD "BANK." MOTION CARRIED.
Councilman Bohrer referred to Page 67, Line 25, and said No. 1 should
not exceed 24', No. 2 said it should read: "Edges of which shall
be minimum of 40'.
Fred Satterstrom said the intent on the edges of the parking lot
would have to be minimum of 40' away. The 24' does not have any
meaning. It is the intention not to have any parking lots, etc.,
within 40' of the river.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT ON PAGE 67, LINE 26,
DELETED "EDGES OF WHICH," LINE 27 DELETE "NOT" AND DELETE ALL OF
LINE 28.
Councilman Bohrer said the conditions of the underlying zones would
still apply.
Mayor Todd said if he were a fisherman he would have to trespass
on someone's property to get to the river. Where would they park?
Councilman Bohrer said there are many places where you cannot
drive a car along a dike. In one instance we have allowed a 24'
road to be placed within the 50'.
Councilman Phelps asked if a fire line were required, would
it be within the 40' or would it have to be set back further to
accommodate a fire lane for emergency purposes.
Councilman Hill said we are eliminating all access.
*MOTION FAILED, WITH BOHRER, JOHANSON, AND HARRIS VOTING YES.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 4 1981
Page 4
DISCUSSION Contd.
Page 67
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT LINES 21 THROUGH 28, PAGE
67, READ: "THE RIVER ENVIRONMENT SHALL CONSIST OF 50 FEET, AS
MEASURED ON A HORIZONTAL PLAN, FROM THE MEAN HIGH WATER MARK, AND
SHALL CONTAIN NO USES OTHER THAN THE FOLLOWING SHORELINE USES:
(1) ACCESS ROAD NOT TO EXCEED 24 FEET IN WIDTH."
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HARRIS, TO AMEND THE MOTION AND DELETE
ITEM 2 FROM PAGE 67, LINES 29 AND 30. MOTION CARRIED, WITH PHELPS
AND HILL VOTING NO.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT ON PAGE 69, LINE 11,
ITEM (9) BE ADDED: "ROAD AND RAILROAD BRIDGES." MOTION CARRIED.
Councilman Bohrer said the motion as we now have it goes back to
allowing the situation that has been discussed in the north end
of the City where the fishermen are trying to get to the river bank
to fish but has no alternative but to go on private property. He
said he opposed that as a policy.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT ITEM 1 THAT WAS AMENDED AND
CURRENTLY SAYS "ACCESS ROADS NOT TO EXCEED 24 FEET IN WIDTH" BE
AMENDED BY ADDING THE PHRASE "FOR RIVER BANK MAINTENANCE ONLY."
MOTION FAILED, WITH BOHRER, JOHANSON, AND SAUL VOTING YES.
*MOTION CARRIED, AS AMENDED, WITH BOHRER VOTING NO.
Councilman Bohrer said we have precluded public access to the river
where it is developed.
Councilman Phelps said if the City had specific reason for wanting
access couldn't there be an easement?
Chris Crumbaugh said he would like the addition of foot bridges
across the river.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT ONE PAGE 69, LINE
8 (PART A) AND LINE 28,(PART B), ADD "FOOT BRIDGE." MOTION
CARRIED.
Councilman Bohrer said on Page 69, Line 29, there should be a
correction in format.
Councilman Bohrer suggested that the word "environment" be added
to Line 23, Page 71, between the words "river" and "width."
RECESS Council President Van Dusen stated the Council would recess for
9:30 9:40 P.M. 10 minutes.
?/9/
Councilman Hill said on Page 70, Line 9, he would like to see the
addition of fruit trees to the list of trees for landscaping.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE WORD "SHALL" ON PAGE 70,
LINE 6, BE CHANGED TO "MAY." MOTION FAILED WITH HARRIS VOTING YES.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT ON PAGE 70, LINE 6, (a)
READ: "WHERE THE RIVER BANK HAS BEEN RECONSTRUCTED FOR FLOOD
CONTROL PURPOSES IT SHALL BE LANDSCAPED WITH SUITABLE PLANT
MATERIAL CONSISTENT WITH FLOOD CONTROL MEASURES," AND ADD "FRUIT
TREES" ON LINE 10. MOTION CARRIED.
The Special Meeting was called back to order by Council President
Van Dusen, with Council Members present as previously listed.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HILL, TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION AT
THE MAY 11, 1981 MEETING THAT WILL COMMENCE AT 7:00 P.M. MOTION
CARRIED.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 4, 1981
Page 5
DISCUSSION Contd.
Chap. 18.46, PRD, Fred Satterstrom, Planner, explained the purpose of this chapter
Planned Residential which is to encourage imaginative site and building design and to
Development. create open space in residential development by permitting greater
flexibility in zoning requirements than is permitted by other
sections of this code.
RECESS
10:00 P.M.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY PHELPS, TO ELIMINATE LINES 11, 12,
AND 13, FROM PAGE 74.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE SPECIAL MEETING BE
RECESSED UNTIL 7:00 P.M. ON MAY 11, 1981. MOTION CARRIED.
Gar '`C. Van Dusen,Council President
Norma Booher, Recording Secretary