HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-05-18 Special MinutesMay 18, 1981
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL OF COUNCIL
MEMBERS
OFFICIALS IN
ATTENDANCE
DISCUSSION
Prop. Zoning Map
Changes
North of I -5 405.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING
11 I N U T E S
City Hall
Council Chambers
The Tukwila City Council Special Meeting was called to order
by Chairman Dan Saul in the absence of Council President Van
Dusen at 7:03 P.M.
L. C. BOHRER, MABEL J. HARRIS. GEORGE D. HILL, J. REID JOHANSON,
DORIS E. PHELPS, DANIEL J. SAUL.
Mayor Todd, Director of Planning Brad Collins, Planners Caroline
Berry and Fred Satterstrom.
Fred Satterstrom, Planner, presented slides of the zoning pattern
and showed some of the cbanges that may affect certain properties
in certain ways. The Comprehensive Plan map was done in 1977.
This general policy integrates into the present zoning map. The
map is meant to change with the times. There are agricultural
and single family districts. Most of the single family residence
area is in McMicken Heights and atop the Tukwila hill. The
green area on the map is parks and agricultural area.
The multi- family district is mainly the south slope of Tukwila
hill; the basic pattern is that the C -1 district is the interior
portion of Interurban Avenue; the P -0 district applies along
Southcenter Boulevard and along 178th to the two bench areas and
the west side of I -5; the commercial zone is C -2 and C -P. The
industrial district, C -M, basically remains the same; the M -1
zone is located near I -405. M -2 district is to the south and in
Segale Industrial Park.
Public parks would be allowed in the R -1 and R -A districts.
Councilman Saul said the first discussion would take in the area
north of I -5 and 405.
Francis North, North Bend, said she was representing the Codina
property. The area is No. 1 on the Figure 7 drawing of the
proposed zoning map changes. The property has been changed from
M -1 to R -A. This is a down zone. When the property was annexed
to the City in 1957 all of the Codina holdings were brought into
the City at that time. Some of the property was west of the
river and some was east of the river. Whether that land becomes
part of a park is not sure at this time. She said it is in the
lap of the Burlington Northern Railroad. She pointed out that
there are two residences on the property and she is concerned
that if something should happen to those houses (fire) that under
the park zone they could not be repaired. She asked that the Council
consider returning this property to the M -1 zone that it previously
had.
Councilman Bohrer asked if the site has been purchased by King
County? Ms. North said 4 acres were purchased in the vicinity,
and there are 8 acres in the parcel.
Councilman Bohrer said it appears that there have been rezones.
The north part is being rezoned from M -1 to R -1 and the south
from M -1 to R -A. Mr. Satterstrom said that is correct.
Councilman Phelps said if the zone were left R -A even though
the City does not develop it for some time would it be nonconforming?
Mr. Satterstrom said the agricultural would be nonconforming. It
would have to be C -1 or C -2 to conform.
Ms. North said she would like to ask why the Council is down zoning
from M -1 the privately owned land. She said they planned to do
something with it commercially when it was annexed into the City.
Mr. Satterstrom said the comprehensive plan shows it as green in
that area. There are no sewage facilities in the area.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 18, 1981
Page 2
DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Zoning Map
Changes contd.
North of I -5 405
contd.
Property between
I -5 405.
Councilman Saul asked if it had been thought that the entire area
was owned by King County. Mr. Satterstrom said that was the
original thought, but then it was found that there are two single
family homes on the property, and just four acres were purchased
by King County. He said they had tried to show a line between
the R -A and the R -1 -72 area.
Councilman Bohrer said the issue then seems to be the correct use
of the property is not compatible with R -1 or R -A zoning. Mr.
Satterstrom said the nonconforming section would apply to the
structures. The present use could not be expanded. They can
continue in their current use. Any expansions would have to be
approved by the Board of Adjustment.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE COUNCIL CONFIRM THE
STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR PARCEL 1 AS SHOWN ON THE PROPOSED ZONING
MAP.
Councilman Bohrer said it is his understanding that King County
owns the south part, the north part is 4 acres surrounded by
parks and river and R -1 zoning. As R1 -1 it would be introducing a
small 4 acre piece of light manufacturing into an area that would
not be alike the rest of the property. Basically, the neighbors
are single family, but whether or not it remains single family
it is difficult to say.
*I10TION CARRIED, WITH HARRIS AND PHELPS VOTING NO.
Harvey Locke, audience, said he was speaking about Parcel No. 19
currently zoned C -2. The proposed plan shows it as C -1. This
would reduce the commercial flexibility and the incentive for
the businesses to expand and locate there. The down zone is not
desirable. The down zoning is a negative impact, resulting in
lower property values and a reduced commercial flexibility. He
said he would like to see the Interurban Corridor stay as it is
presently zoned. This area should be a focal area and the down
zoning is restrictive. It should be given flexibility in its
commercial usage. This down zoning does not achieve that. There
will be no incentive to rehabilitate the Interurban Corridor
if it is down zoned. If it is supposed to be a commercial focus
you are losing that objective by this down zoning.
Councilman Saul asked the Planning Commission reasoning for C -1
zoning along that area. Mr. Satterstrom said the Planning Commis-
sion approach to Interurban has been on an area basis rather than
business by business. C -2 zoning is near the intersection with
C -1 or commercial zoning located on the interior property. The
reasoning is that the C -1 zoning allows certain uses which it was
felt were not compatible with the upland residential type of use.
C -1 allows office, retail, and certain auto commercial use.
Other uses in C -2 were not thought to be compatible the bowling
alleys, billiards, for instance. Although the Interurban plan
has not been adopted, the Planning Commission thought of it as a
pedestrian type of property rather than auto oriented. The C -1
is thought to be more pedestrian type along the west and east
side of Interurban. Much of the C -1 zoning has been deleted from
Maule Avenue area.
Councilman Hill said he did not understand the reasoning of local
business along a four -lane highway. He said he does not walk from
his home down to Interurban and across the street. The speed is
posted at 40 miles per hour but the autos are going pretty fast.
He said he could not see where that street would be attractive to
residential -type businesses. If people did walk down there it
would not be enough to support a business. It has to be
automobile- oriented type of businesses.
Councilman Harris said along Maule Avenue there would not be
room to have any business there. Across the street there would
be P1 -1 zoning along a busy street. We have cardrooms and taverns
there.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 18, 1981
Page 3
DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Zoning Map
Changes Contd.
Property between I -5
and 405 contd.
Councilman Bohrer said he disagreed that this zoning would have a
negative impact. He said the plans for Interurban Corridor have
been that we create the feeling that we are achieving a consistency
of use. Right now we have truck terminals, office buildings, card
rooms, and the river itself. There is a balanced benefit to the
property owners to allow the area to develop. The uses should be
attractive to the area, whether it is C -1 or C -2. There are not
a large number of uses in C -2 that you cannot put in C -1. C -2
is large scale development and there is not the room on the west
side for large development.
Councilman Phelps said rather than consider the one piece of
property, if the Council has a philosophy of property development
along Interurban maybe we should consider it all along Interurban.
Councilman Hill asked what is the difference between C -1 and C -2
zoning? Fred Satterstrom said all of the conditional uses of
C -1 should be allowed in the C -2 zone or allowed conditionally in
the C -2.
Councilman Phelps said she noted in the area of I -5 just south
of 56th on the west side of Interurban there is C -1 and C -2
adjacent to each other. She said she did not see the reasoning
in having them side by side.
Councilman Bohrer said there is a street between them.
Councilman Phelps said the idea of having an Interurban Corridor
plan is appealing and having neighborhood stores is nice, but
the reality of it is that if Boeing or Longacres shut down they
go out of business. They depend on the traffic for business and
not the people on the hill who would walk down to shop. There
seems to be a conflict as to the reality of it.
Chris Crumbaugh, representing Segale Company, said P1r. Segale
has a piece of property on Interurban that has been down zoned
from C -1 to C -2 and R -4 to R -1. He wondered why it is down zoned
from C -1 other than to keep it consistent. He said he did not
see the reasoning for it. It is a corridor serving the people
going up and down the street.
Councilman Bohrer said the Council has been through the subject
of what to do with Interurban Corridor about six times. The time
has come for the Council to make up their minds and do it. He
said he understood the concern about the business being subject
to the traffic. The zoning code will require the parking be
adequate to serve the traffic going by on the street. We are trying
to create an area that is attractive and hold more people to the
area. We want to attract the people to the area, the golf course,
and Fort Dent. That was the concept. The pedestrian- oriented
aspect was discussed to some extent. We have said we do need
sidewalks. If there are no sidewalks, the people will walk
through the landscaping. We have to think what would be desirable
today. In the Interurban Corridor study we decided to think
about this. In the Community Affairs Committee we said we wanted
people- oriented businesses that would try to make use of the
amenities. This area is not developing rapidly. The why is that
there is nothing there to attract them.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL REAFFIRM
THE C -1 DESIGNATION ON PARCEL 19 AND THE THREE PARCELS NEAR I -5
INTERCHANGE DESIGNATED C -2 BE DESIGNATED C -l.
Fred Satterstrom, Planner, said if the businesses wish to expand
they can get a conditional use permit. It would have to go
through the Planning Commission review. The C -1 zoning will
allow the cocktail lounges with conditional use permit. The
furniture store would be nonconforming under C -1.
Councilman Phelps said if the Council continues with this trend
and it remains C -1 what other places would be nonconforming?
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 18, 1981
Page 4
DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Zoning Map Mr. Satterstrom said places such as taverns, cocktail lounges,
Changes contd. motorcycle repair shops would be nonconforming in C -1.
Property between I -5 and
405 contd. Louise Strander, audience, said she wondered if this meets all of
the requirements of down zoning? She asked if there has been a
legal opinion on this.
Brad Collins, Director of Planning, said the City is not adopting
the zoning ordinance at this time. This is a work meeting and
the reason for voting gives the audience the thinking of the Council
at this time. If down zoning is being done and the zoning map
is changed, this is not the process that is followed. There will
be a map showing the property changes and all of the changes will
be handled in one process. Without a legal opinion we cannot give
a better explanation.
Councilman Johanson said it was his understanding that the motions
just show intent of the Council until final adoption. Mr. Collins
said the Council is just showing intent. Councilman Hill said
this is not an official meeting where final action is taken and
the motions made this night show intent of Council.
Councilman Hill said the motion is considering just four pieces
of property. Are all of the rest of the properties along there
zoned C -1? Mr. Satterstrom said on the west side of Interurban
it is C -1.
Councilman Bohrer said that is the intent of his motion, the
proposed map shows C -1 except these properties.
*MOTION WITHDRAWN, WITH APPROVAL OF SECOND.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE COUNCIL CONFIRM THE
C -1 ZONING ON PARCEL 19.
Councilman Bohrer said the Council is indicating what they intend
to do when the zoning ordinance comes before the Council.
*MOTION CARRIED, WITH HILL AND PHELPS VOTING NO AND HARRIS
ABSTANING FROM VOTE DUE TO A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
*MOTION WITHDRAWN, WITH APPROVAL OF SECOND.
Jerry Knudson, audience, said his property between 57th and 58th
is zoned R -1 -96. It is on a hill and he wondered if this is the
reason for the R -1 -96 designation. He said he has constructed
sewer lines from the south end of 58th, 350 feet inward and into
the center of his land. He would like to have it designated
R -1 -72, the reason being that sewer and water are available to
the area.
Mr. Satterstrom said the policy has been not to upzone any single
family property unless specific request were made.
Mr. Knudson said he owns an acre and would like to subdivide into
three lots.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY PHELPS, TO REVISE THE THINKING ON THE
MAP SO THAT ANY LOT THAT IS ON SEWER OR SERVED BY SEWER WOULD BE
A MAXIMUM OF 7200 SQUARE FEET.
Mr. Knudson said the property to the south is R -1 -72 and up the
hill it is zoned MH density and the property to the north is
mainly R -1 -72.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE AREA BETWEEN 58TH AND
57TH, LOT 40, BE REVISED TO 7200 SQUARE FOOT LOTS RATHER THAN
9600 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 18, 1981
Page 5
DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Zoning Map Councilman Bohrer said on the draft map the property to the south
Changes contd. is indicated as R -1 -12 and that is more or less what the property
around has been; part of that bank is quite steep. Mr. Knudson
Property between I -5 and says he has one acre, it should be possible to build three homes
405 contd. on 9600 square foot lots on an acre and still leave 14,000 square
feet for streets if his goal is 3 houses on the lot.
11r. Knudson said he would have to give 15' x 185 190' to the
City and when he bought the property he had to give some back
so he does not have a full acre. There would still be the require-
ments to put in the roads. He said he had thought he would like
one lot larger than the others and not confine himself to each lot
being 7200 square feet. It is also hillside. If he took one -half
of the property for himself and then had two lots at 7200 square
feet there would be too many restrictions.
*MOTION CARRIED, WITH BOHRER AND JOHANSON VOTING NO.
RECESS MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY JOHANSON, THAT THE TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
9:25 9:35 P.M. SPECIAL MEETING RECESS FOR TEN MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED.
The meeting was called back to order by Chairman Saul, with
Council Members present as previously listed.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE THREE PARCELS NEAR I -5
INTERCHANGE DESIGNATED C -2 BE DESIGNATED C -1.
Brad Collins, Director of Planning, said it seems it would be
wise to send this back to staff to be reviewed, particularly
since the property owners are not present to discuss the property.
Without the City Attorney here it is difficult to decide the
legal rules. He said he thought the City Attorney should be in
attendance when specific property is discussed.
Councilman Bohrer said he was willing to accept Mr. Collin's
recommendation, and have the information brought back to the Council.
*MOTION WITHDRAWN, WITH APPROVAL OF SECOND.
Mr. Collins said the matter just discussed would be sent back to
staff and legal advice from the City Attorney would be obtained.
Councilman Harris said this entire zoning ordinance would come
up for a public hearing. Mr. Collins said we are in a review
session and any action taken here cannot be construed as a change
in zoning. Councilman Hill said we are here to gather information
from the audience and get their input.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT STAFF REVIEW CHANGING
THESE THREE PARCELS FROM C -2 TO C -1. MOTION CARRIED, WITH HILL
AND PHELPS VOTING NO.
MOVED BY JOHANSON, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE PREVIOUS MOTION
BE REFERRED TO STAFF AND THE INFORMATION BROUGHT BACK TO THE
COUNCIL. MOTION CARRIED, WITH PHELPS VOTING NO.
Councilman Harris said in reference to the C -1 property along
Interurban to Maule Avenue, that is worthless. There is not any
property along there to develop. It should be M -1.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT THE PROPERTY EAST OF
INTERURBAN TO THE RIVER BE C -1 AND IT BE REFERRED TO STAFF.
Jerry Knudson, audience, said there were a number of businessmen
along the Interurban Corridor who came up with a good proposal.
They were thinking in line with the fact that Interurban Avenue
have a buffering effect; there are a variety of businesses, trucking,
machine shops, etc. There was a concrete factory which is now
replaced by a candy manufacturer. Anything designated as manufac-
turing is manufacturing and there are a number of businesses that
fall into that category. There is not a lot you can do with C -l.
Landscaping and parking will act as a buffer.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
May 18, 1981
Page 6
DISCUSSION Contd.
Prop. Zoning Map
Changes contd.
ADJOURNMENT
10:10 P.M.
Councilman Bohrer said the proposal was to down zone to C -1 so
it would be a buffer. P1r. Knudson said it was the proposal of
the business men to have a corridor strip and it was supposed to
be a buffer from M -1 zoning to the corridor. The strip itself
would be a buffer.
*MOTION CARRIED, WITH PHELPS AND HILL VOTING NO.
Milton Young, audience, said the buffer zone shown as C -1 was
as a buffer for the residents on the hill. At the time they
agreed they were hurting the people on the west side of Interurban.
He said he believed if it were brought up to a vote with the
property owners and the people on the corridor we would find
they would go back and ask for C -2 zoning. As far as the height
restriction, we now have the elevated heights. He said he does
not agree with the heights allowed in the C -2 section. The
residents above are entitled to the view that they have.
Councilman Phelps asked if it is designated as a buffer, could
it be zoned R -A? Would there be parking requirements? Mr.
Satterstrom said he would advise against the R -A zoning because
of the commercial nature of the property.
Chairman Saul said the next zoning discussion would take place
on June 1, 1981.
MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
SP MEETING ADJOURL MOTION CARRIED.
Chairman Daniel aul
Norma Booher, Recording Secretary