HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-06-23 Committee of the Whole MinutesJune 23, 1981
7:00 P.M.
FLAG SALUTE AND
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL OF COUNCIL
MEMBERS
REPORTS
Mr. Ron Dunlap,
King County
Executive.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL City Hall
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING Council Chambers
M I N U T E S
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Council President Van Dusen led the Council and audience in the
Pledge of Allegiance and called the Tukwila City Council Committee
of the Whole Meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
MABEL J. HARRIS, GEORGE D. HILL, DORIS E. PHELPS, DANIEL J. SAUL,
Council President GARY L. VAN DUSEN.
Mayor Todd introduced Mr. Ron Dunlap, King County Executive.
Mr. Dunlap said he was going out to the 28 municipalities in
King County to find the desires of the people. He said it
would be an informal discussion and then a question and answer
period.
He said at the present time his office is concerned with the
preparation of the 1982 budget. There are some financial
problems. These problems are being addressed by effecting
necessary cut backs in services so a balanced budget may be
presented that will not result in a tax increase. This will
necessitate reducing spending by 10 million dollars.
Mr. Dunlap said they hope to have on the ballot a County -wide 911
dialling system. It is called enhanced 911. It will give King
County the very finest emergency system available in this
country. Indications are that 50 cents per month will provide
this system. To have fire, police, or medical system it is
necessary to dial only 911 and state whether the problem is
for "fire, police, or medical" and the call will be relayed to
the nearest station. The number and location of the call will
be flashed and it is the latest in equipment. The hardware
is available and the County is in the process of putting it
together.
A long range program that the County has been exploring is that
of converting waste to energy. The plan is to take the 2,000
or 3,000 tons of waste a day and sort it, shred it, and burn
it to create steam and generate electricity. The electricity
would be sold to Bonneville Power. It would produce more
energy for the area. The additional benefit will be the decided
environmental good to the program. It will improve the
environment, be economical, and provide energy.
Mr. Dunlap said another thing that has come to his mind is the
amount of time that it takes to process paper work through the
government. When someone decides to build a home it takes some
time for all of the paper work to go through. He said he
would like to make government a servant of the people rather
than an obstacle. A task force has been created; they have
reported a list of recommendations that can be done to reduce the
time flow. A number of changes will be incorporated that will
reduce the amount of time it takes County government to serve
the people.
These are some of the things that are being looked at. There
are a number of other things being considered.
The improvement of the jail is another thing that is underway.
They are thinking in terms of making the King County jail a
better place. Less than $5,000 has been spent in paint, wax,
etc. Ten years of wax has been stripped off, windows have been
washed and walls painted. The labor has been done by inmates of
the jail. He said he would like the County to get to the point
where others will look at the jail as a well -run and clean
facility. The King County jail is 25% larger than the next
largest penal institution in the State. Art in the amount of
$600,000 will not be put into the King County jail! Each cell
has a window that is a requirement, color TV does abound, but
not in each cell.
Mr. Dunlap said he would like to open the meeting for discussion.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
June 23, 1981
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REPORTS Contd.
Mr. Ron Dunlap,
King County
Executive contd.
Council President Van Dusen said he had a question from the
audience that has to do with the 56th Avenue bridge.
Mr. Dunlap said they have block grant funds appropriated and
ready to go into the design and construction of the bridge.
The County contends that because the boundary line goes through
the middle of the bridge some of the cost should be borne by the
City of Tukwila. He said they would like to move ahead on the
construction.
Council President Van Dusen asked if there is a chance for
matching funds? Mr. Dunlap said he would be surprised if the
Federal would join in on the cost. The bridge is not on a
State highway so it is doubtful that the State would join in.
Mr. Dunlap said the design will cost about $137,000 and the
total cost will be 1.49 million dollars.
Mayor Todd said the block grant funds have been set aside for
the County. Why cannot these funds be used for the City part?
Mr. Dunlap said the Prosecuting Attorney is clear in his convic-
tion that this needs to be a shared project.
Mayor Todd said the County took advantage of block grant funds.
If the City assumed the liability couldn't the County fund the
City share? If block grant funds are available to the County
could not the City be eligibile for block grant funds also?
This would get the preliminary engineering underway.
Mr. Dunlap said he would take the question back to the prosecuting
attorney and see what his answer may be.
Mayor Todd said it is easy for the County to get the block grant
funds. Why cannot they approve the City for that?
Mr. Dunlap said he would discuss this matter with the attorney.
Mayor Todd said the bridge serves 17 families who live in the
City and 50 families who live in the County.
Councilman Saul said if the City has to participate in a one
and one -half million dollar project he did not know how they
could do it. There is no need to spend the money for the design
because the City cannot do it, and then participate in a
one and one -half million dollar project because we do not have
the money.
Mr. Dunlap said the total cost of the bridge would be 1.495
million dollars. The local share would be 30% of that, or
about $225,000. The design cost is on top of that.
Mrs. William Baker, 13059 56th South, said she was told by
Mr. Grieve that Tukwila would get Federal matching funds and
State help in building the bridge.
Police Chief Lowery said he would like to address one question
about the County jail. The County and City are looking at
who is going to pay what. The cost has gone up to $50.00.
He said they are looking for a regular jail. There is space
available here. There would be many good points to it. It will
necessitate pulling out of the 10 -year contract.
Mr. Dunlap said Chief Lowery is one of the few who have said
they would like to have a jail. On the issue of cost, it needs
to be restated. He said they have no ambition of making money
on the County jail. All they have argued is that those who
use the jail pay their fair share. It costs 2.2 million dollars
per year to support the jail. The County and City split the cost.
Fifty percent of the bookings come from Seattle. He said they
wanted equity on the issue of jail costs. There is cost
associated with booking a person and a daily charge. The costs
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
June 23, 1981
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REPORTS Contd.
Mr. Ron Dunlap,
King County Executive
contd.
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have been analyzed and we believe it is fair and equitable.
The same charges borne by Tukwila will be borne by Bellevue and
Seattle.
Chief Lowery said our people are paying a general tax and then
we get a bill. Does the sheriff get the same bill?
Mr. Dunlap said a consultant was hired to do a cost analysis.
It is on the basis of that information that we are asking for
the fair share. It was a matter of disagreement with the City
of Seattle.
Council President Van Dusen said the Recreation Department has
a lease with the local school district building and we have
allowed County citizens to participate in the program. We have
60 County citizens and only 20 Tukwila citizens. They use
the facilities and all of the amenities and the City vans for
trips. We are going to have to ask the County to help on these
expenses.
Mr. Dunlap said he understood the Director of Parks has been
contacted and it is intended to put this matter into the
budget request for 1982.
Councilman Hill said he keeps worrying about the problems here.
He asked if any thought has been given to making a County -wide
traffic study? Most of the problems are coming from I -405 and
Longacres. If we put in a 4 -lane street to our City limits and
it is 2 miles of County road until a person gets to Kent or
Renton City limits. This is not going to help. Can't everyone
get together on something like this.
Mr. Dunlap said it is a great idea and one they are working
toward. He said he looks at the roads throughout King County
and sees the need to do something about them. The idea of the
County -wide bond issue is being explored that would take care
of the transportation problems. It will not be on the ballot this
November, but it is being discussed. He said he thought the
bond would be received by the people.
Mrs. Baker, audience, asked if this would include the bridge
repair? She said if they become isolated, there is no way a
fire truck can get into their area. A bridge is needed. It is
a County road. Will this be included on the bond issue?
Mr. Dunlap said he can only say that the County is prepared with
the money to go ahead with the design and construction.
Mrs. Baker said a consultant was called in for the jail. Could
one be called in for the bridge?
Mr. Dunlap said the County has the attorney's opinion. There
are other legal opinions that say it is County responsibility.
The decision on this may ultimately come only through court
action.
Chris Crumbaugh, audience, said the County developed a proposed
general development guide and in it Tukwila is ignored.
Industrial zones are shown as open space. He said he would ask
that Tukwila not be ignored.
Mr. Dunlap said the general development guide is significant,
but is only a draft at this point. A lot of work has gone into
it. One of the most important issues is land use development.
There is a need to listen to local communities. That is where
decisions about land use are best made. He said there is a
new director of planning who will be taking office about July 15.
One of his aims will be to listen to the communities.
Councilman Harris asked that Tukwila appear on the maps.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
June 23, 1981
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REPORTS Contd.
Mr. Ron Dunlap,
King County Executive
contd.
RECESS
8:00 8:15 P.M.
CITIZEN COMMENTS
Name Change Pacific
National Bank to
1st Interstate Bank.
NEW BUSINESS
Budget Transfer Motion,
provide funds for
Technical Advisor
position in the Police
Dept.
OLD BUSINESS
Approval of Minutes:
Zoning Ord. 6 -1 -81
Zoning Ord. 6 -8 -81
Comm. of Whole 6 -9 -81.
Approval of 1981 Tow
Truck Rates.
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Mr. Dunlap said as soon as the old map supply has been depleted
and there is a reprint Tukwila will be on the new maps.
Councilman Hill said on the watershed program, it has been
determined how they are going to get the water out of Auburn,
Kent, and Renton, but no one has planned how they are going to get
it out of Tukwila's back door. We have to get it from here to
Elliott Bay. It is the same thing with transportation. If the
entire problem is not solved, Tukwila cannot solve our problem.
Councilman Phelps said we should work in the spirit of
cooperation. At the recent AWC convention she heard Vancouver
tell how they developed a plan to support legislation they wanted
and defeated what they did not want.
Mr. Dunlap said the County would be pleased to entertain such
an idea. There are many problems of the City and County that
overlap and are the same. He said he would be interested to
work with citizens on such issues of mutual concern. The
Governor came from King County and he is familiar with the
problems. He said that Bob Hodges should be contacted by the
City. He is in charge of inter governmental relations.
Council President Van Dusen called a recess for ten minutes.
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called back to order by
Council President Van Dusen, with Council Members present as
previously listed.
Jan Wiesner, Tukwila Chamber of Commerce, said on Wednesday
afternoon all City officials were invited to attend an afternoon
social between 4 and 7 p.m. at 343 Andover Park East to
celebrate the name change of the bank.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE AGENDA BE CHANGED
AND NEW BUSINESS BE DISCUSSED PRIOR TO OLD BUSINESS. MOTION
CARRIED.
Alan Doerschel, Director of Finance, said the purpose of the
budget transfer is to fund the Technical Advisor (Police
Department) position through December 1981 per the signed
agreement.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT THE PROPOSED BUDGET
TRANSFER BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE JULY 7, 1981 MEETING. MOTION
CARRIED.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY SAUL, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE REVIEW HELD JUNE 1, 1981 AND JUNE 8, 1981 AND THE
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING HELD JUNE 9, 1981 BE APPROVED
AS PUBLISHED. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilman Hill said the matter of tow truck rates had been
discussed in committee. The Police Chief checked tow rates
in the surrounding area and we are a little lower than most of
them.
Police Chief Lowery said the TMC says the Council must review
the rates every year. They are buying a license for each tow
truck and they are inspected by the Police Department. He said
the present practice is fair.
Councilman Hill said there is some policing and it is good to
keep them licensed by the City.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE
TOW TRUCK RATES BEING CHARGED BY THE OPERATORS IN THE CITY.
MOTION CARRIED.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
June 23, 1981
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OLD BUSINESS Contd.
Council Manager,
Mayor Council forms
of government for
City.
J.? 7S
Council President Van Dusen said Dennis Hidell, former Council
Analyst, and Teresa Julnes, Council Analyst, would present
information that has been researched.
Dennis Hidell said if this resolution passes it is necessary
for the Council to present it to the voters. The issue is
the abandonment of the Mayor Council type of government in the
City. The whole face of City government in Tukwila would be
changed. It is fair for this resolution to be proposed by the
Council. The alternative would be a petition by the voters
for the change. The voters should have the arguments from both
sides of the question. A lot of information has been accumulated
for the Council from nationwide as well as local sources.
Mr. Hidell said in the paper he wrote for the Council he had
said there were people who would be glad to come and speak to
the Council and audience and tell their views on the subject.
Council President Van Dusen said if the issue passed on the
November election then there would still have to be another
election in February.
Teresa Julnes, Council Analyst, said through the RCW there is
a reorganization of the Council that must take place if the
City government is changed. Following the election that
accepts the change in type of City government there must be a
primary election held for Council Members and then the Mayor
is selected.
Councilman Harris said at the AWC convention she had asked what
the City could use to give the people of Tukwila an unbiased
discussion on the subject. It was suggested that information
from both sides be presented to the voters in a public hearing.
She was told the AWC could be a moderator and get a Mayor and
Manager to speak and the audience could ask questions. There
could be a second meeting and even a third, if necessary.
Teresa Julnes, Council Analyst, said there has not been an
outcry from the public for this change. This is where it
should come from when the change is being considered. If the
change is made, the City will not be electing a Mayor, the
Council will be electing the Mayor.
Dennis Hidell said it is only right that the people initiate
this objective. The RCW allows the Council to pass the resolution
and makes provision for it.
Council President Van Dusen said it would be good to have a
public meeting. We have about 12 to 1400 voters and about 800
of them actually vote. The people do not seem to come out for
public meetings.
Councilman Hill said without the issue originating with the
people the Council should not consider it.
Mayor Todd said he proposed the resolution because the need
for a fulltime Mayor has been felt for a long time. Mayor Baker
thought it was necessary to have a fulltime Mayor more than 18
years ago. He said he introduced the resolution to give the
people that option.
Councilman Hill said the Chamber of Commerce expressed the
thought that the town needed a fulltime Mayor some time ago.
They did not specify it should be a City Manager, but it should
be a fulltime person in charge of the City. The Mayor feels
we should have a fulltime person running the City. That is why
this issue has been introduced.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
June 23, 1981
Page 6
OLD BUSINESS Contd.
Council Manager,
Mayor Council forms
of government
for City contd.
MISCELLANEOUS
Reno Nights.
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Chris Crumbaugh, audience, said the Segale Company felt their
views should be expressed. He said they agreed that the City
staff needs full time direction. The staff tries hard, but they
cannot accomplish without direction. He said it is their thought
that the City try the fulltime Mayor before they go to the
Council Manager type of government. He said they would like to
be able to come up to City Hall and express views to elected
personnel. He said there are qualified people in the position.
He said the hiring of a City Manager could create financial
problems for the City.
Councilman Harris said the seven City Council members would be
elected by the people. If the Council then appointed the Mayor,
he would actually be elected by the people.
Mayor Todd asked what the powers of the City Council appointed
Mayor would be? He would have no authority. The Council is
prohibited from interferring with Administration.
Teresa Julnes said cities are experiencing two or three City
Managers in five years. They are not staying for any length
of time in a City.
Council President Van Dusen said if this matter gets to the
public vote he thought it would be turned down.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION
BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AT THE
DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
John Barnes, audience, said he agreed that the City should try
the form of government presently in use with a fulltime Mayor
and then if it does not work out the City could look to changing
the type of government. He said when he has a complaint he
likes to be able to take it to an elected official and not to
a City Manager who would hide behind the Council.
*MOTION CARRIED, WITH VAN DUSEN VOTING NO.
Council President Van Dusen said a number of nonprofit organiza-
tions have called him about the recent ordinance eliminating
Reno nights. They have been scheduled to have Reno nights and
have booked until about the end of November with one being
scheduled for February 1982. These organizations would like the
Council to allow them the events that have been scheduled.
Councilman Saul said he was not in favor of continuing Reno
nights. There is no way to monitor the money. It is wide open
with no controls and no surveillance. If they want to run them
they can go to one of the surrounding cities.
Councilman Hill asked if the nonprofit organizations were from
the City? Maxine Anderson, City Clerk, said they were not.
Council President Van Dusen said if Council is in favor of letting
them keep their scheduled events then the ordinance should be
delayed or permission granted to go ahead with the event.
Councilman Saul said he would like to hear what the Police
Chief has to say about this matter.
Police Chief Lowery said his feeling is that if exceptions are
granted the ordinance might as well be thrown out. The
hearings were started in February. It would be interesting to
know how many of these events were scheduled after that time.
Reno nights were declared to be illegal right from the beginning.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
June 23, 1981
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MISCELLANEOUS Contd.
Reno nights contd.
ADJOURNMENT
9:00 P.M.
3.
City Attorney Hard said the City has a gambling ordinance that
is working well. If there is a tolerance policy it is more
trouble than it is worth. If there are any changes made, the
Council will have to amend the ordinance.
Councilman Phelps said she was not in favor of allowing the
scheduled events to take place. The other Council members
agreed with that decision.
MOVED BY SAUL, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED.
L'-Van Busen, Council President
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Noma Booher, Recording Secretary