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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-08-24 Special MinutesAugust 24, 1981 7:00 P.M. 3.. ,9 TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL City Hall SPECIAL MEETING Council Chambers M I N U T E S CALL TO ORDER In the absence of Council President Van Dusen, Chairman Hill called the Special Zoning Meeting of the Tukwila City Council to order. ROLL CALL OF L. C. BOHRER, MABEL J. HARRIS, GEORGE D. HILL, DORIS E. PHELPS. COUNCIL MEMBERS DISCUSSION Sec. 18.56.040, Chairman Hill asked if it would be a requirement to have a curb around Off- Street Parking landscaping in the parking areas? Loading Regula- tions, Page 102, Fred Satterstrom, Planner, said curbing around landscaping is not a Line 8. uniform requirement throughout the code. Wheel stops are required in parking areas. Mr. Satterstrom said Section 18.56.040 (5) (d) has a misplaced comma. MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT SECTION 18.56.040 (5) (d), LINES 19 21, READ: "WHERE PEDESTRIAN WALKS ARE USED IN PARKING LOTS FOR THE USE OF FOOT TRAFFIC ONLY, THEY SHALL BE CURBED OR RAISED SIX INCHES ABOVE THE LOT SURFACE." MOTION CARRIED. Page 103 Chairman Hill referred to Lines 11 and 12 and asked if curb cuts in single family use areas would be limited to a maximum of 20' in width? Fred Satterstrom, Planner, said any administrative decision will be appealable to the Board of Adjustment and there will be no cost to an appeal. If a curb is 30' at this time it will be alright. New curb cuts will be limited to 20'. Francis North, audience, asked how this would affect the area where Jim Codiga has his house? The City did not take in the road in the annexation. Chairman Hill said he thought the City has the road to the middle of the street. Mrs. North said there are no curbs there. Chairman Hill said if sidewalks are put in there and the street paved then the curb cuts would be 20'. Cris Crumbaugh, audience, said he would think that the City would want to encourage people not to park on the streets. He would like to see the Public Works Department have the ability to approve curb cuts in the industrial area and have them greater than 40' and be closer than 20' to the property line. People are driving over the landscaping. Chairman Hill asked if it would be possible for two businesses located on adjacent lots to put in two 40' driveways on one side. They would have better egress, and ingress. Cris Crumbaugh, audience, agreed it would make a smoother flow of traffic. Fred Satterstrom, Planner, said they differentiate between access roads such as at Southcenter, and curb cuts like you would find coming out of, for instance, the Sandwich Shop or the Doubletree curb cut where an internal access drive in a parking lot is actually something more than jus a curb cut into a parking lot that is actually serving a number of properties or a large area and it is more of an access road, in that case these restrictions would not apply. Chairman Hill said along Interurban Avenue some of the lots are only about 50' wide. Councilman Phelps asked how this section would enhance a property owner's ability to design offstreet parking. Mr. Satterstrom said the proposed requirement would make it so there would be a distance of 20' to the property line and 20' to the property line on the other end for the entrance driveway. This is on Line 8 and 9 of page 103. Councilman Phelps said the kind of development between two separate lots, especially on a street like Interurban is something she would like to avoid in the new zoning code. When she thinks of the access to the businesses on Andover East, the Sandwich Shop, Printing Controls and on down that way, where you drive in at one point and you drive along the fronts of those businesses, through the parking lot and exit down the street, that is all under one ownership and is all leased. She said she would like to encourage that along Interurban, so you could drive in along the store fronts and not run into curbs and landscaping along the frontage. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING August 24, 1981 Page 2 DISCUSSION Contd. Sec. 18.56.040 contd. Sec. 18.56.040 (10) Sec. 18.56.040 (11) ,337 It would eliminate leapfrogging from one driveway to another. How can we avoid that situation with this kind of a requirement? Mr. Satterstrom said this does not require adjoining properties to do this. If they want to cooperatively manage their parking facilities it would be desirable to do so. It would diminish the number of curb cuts and handle traffic more easily. Brad Collins, Director of Planning, said you are not required to have curb cuts, but if you do have them they cannot be closer than 40' apart. Cris Crumbaugh, audience, said a good example is in Federal Way along Pacific Highway South. You can get off the street and drive along the access road. Brad Collins said this design is good for new buildings going in and all of the design conditions have to be looked into at the time of new development. Locations of existing driveways will remain. Councilman Bohrer said there are side yard requirements. Councilman Harris said if you do not need to get to the back to park you would not have to have the side yard requirements. When Interurban develops there will have to be 10' between each building. Councilman Bohrer said the properties are small on Interurban. Brad Collins, Director of Planner, said if you were doing a development under multiple use development you would be able to waive some of the side yard requirements. He said it is his understanding that the Public Works Department does not wish to vary from the 20' from the property line curb cut. It is a public safety issue. Councilman Hill said a check should be made with the Public Works Department to be sure about this. Councilman Phelps suggested that Line 8 and 9, Page 103, read: "...edge of curb cut or access shall be no closer than 20' from a property line, or less when approved by the Public Works Department for the safe moving of vehicles." Mr. Collins said they could discuss this matter with the Public Works Department, it has been discussed previously and the Public Works Department has been unwilling to waive this requirement when it has been brought up by developers. Mr. Collins asked if the Council would like to have a representative from the Public Works Department present when this information is brought back to the Council. Chairman Hill said it would be good to have them at the meeting to answer questions the Council might have. He suggested it be discussed next Monday night. Mr. Collins said it could be discussed at the time the unresolved issues are considered. Chairman Hill said Section 18.56.040 (10) appears acceptable as written. Councilman Bohrer said he thought staff should bring an explanation on (10). Francis North, audience, said she was going to consider that the trucks are parking legally on her brother's land. Other vehicles are parking there and they are not associated with the landscaping business. Mr. Satterstrom said if Mrs. North's brother has a business license and the City inspected the premises then anything associated with the landscaping business would be "grandfathered" in. He said he did not know about the other trucks not associated with the business. Mr. Collins said they would bring to Council an interpretation on this section. Councilman Bohrer said he would like to know about "temporary storage." Councilman Harris said in her mind it is the car or vehicle you are using and you take it away from time to time. Chairman Hill said you could use a motor home for one week, then come back and park it for two weeks, then go again for one week. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING August 24, 1981 Page 3 DISCUSSION Contd. Sec. 18.56.040 (11) If you get enough people who are temporarily storing their contd. vehicles it could be crowded. MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE LAST SENTENCE OF SECTION 18.56.040 (11) BE DELETED. MOTION CARRIED. Chairman Hill said Section 18.56.040 (11) would be accepted, as amended. RECESS Chairman Hill declare a ten minute recess. 8:50 9:00 P.M. Sec. 18.56.060, Loading space requirements, Page 104. Sec. 18.56.070, Cooperative Parking facility. ,39/ The meeting was called back to order by Chairman Hill, with Council Members present as previously listed. Sec. 18.56.050, Required Chairman Hill said the required number of parking spaces are number of parking spaces, smaller than we have at the present time. Page 103. Fred Satterstrom, Planner, projected the parking requirements of Section 18.56.050 on the screen, stating all of the listed uses were not shown in the draft. Mr. Satterstrom said the requirement is one and one -half for multi- family and it is being upped to two. The requirements for food stores and markets has been increased. In the parking for high schools certain stalls will be indicated for visitors. Hospital parking is presently one for each 3 hospital beds; proposed is one parking space for each hospital bed. In outdoor sports areas the parking spaces shall be determined by the Planning Commission. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT COUNCIL ACCEPT SECTION 18.56.050 AS PRESENTED IN THE PROPOSED DRAFT. MOTION CARRIED. Fred Satterstrom, Planner, said the number of loading spaces required are the same as previous. Cris Crumbaugh, audience, referred to Line 21, page 105, and suggested the Board of Adjustment be changed to Planning Commis- sion. MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT LINES 21 AND 22 ON PAGE 105 READ: "THESE REQUIREMENTS MAY BE REDUCED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UPON APPEAL AND AFTER HEARING, WHERE THE COMMISSION FINDS THAT SUCH...." MOTION CARRIED. Sec. 18.56.060, page 104. Councilman Bohrer said the loading space requirements refer to small trucks and large trucks. A business might start with small trucks and then go to large trucks. Mr. Satterstrom said the type of business determines the size of truck. Brad Collins said if you have multiple loading spaces at least one should be a large space so you would always have the option of requiring them to schedule their deliveries so they would always have their large trucks maneuvering on site and they could not use that as an excuse for maneuvering off -site. MOVED BY BOHRER, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT RETAIL, DEPARTMENT STORES, MANUFACTURING, STORAGE, ETC., HAVE 30 PER CENT MINIMUM OF LARGE SPACES. Councilman Hill said this would require a building to have at least one long parking space so if the building changed tenants they could still utilize that one long one by scheduling their deliveries. This might relieve some of the on- street maneuvering. *MOTION CARRIED, WITH PHELPS VOTING NO. MOVED BY PHELPS, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT COUNCIL ACCEPT SECTION 18.56.070 AS PRESENTED IN THE DRAFT. MOTION CARRIED. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING August 24, 1981 Page 4 DISCUSSION Contd. Sec. 18.56.080, Parking for the handicapped. Sec. 18.56.090, Compact car allowance. Sec. 18.56.100, Sec. 18.56,110, and Sec. 18.56,120. ADJOURNMENT 10:30 P.M. Gary Huff, audience, said they had the handicapped parking spaces monitored at Southcenter and the use of the spaces was very small. Councilman Phelps said the one parking space in 50 could be applied to some places in Tukwila such as the library. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT COUNCIL ACCEPT SECTION 18.56.080 AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Harris said there are over 50% parking space for compact cars. Councilman Bohrer said the shift at this time is towards smaller cars. Gary Huff, audience, said it is almost impossible to enforce the rule that compact cars use the compact stalls. He said as the new compact spaces are put in they are being designated as "Compact Car." MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT SECTIONS 18.56.090, 18.56.100, 18.56.110, AND 18.56.120 BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT THE SPECIAL MEETING ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED. Chairman Ge6rge D. Hill Nntd Booher, Recording Secretary