HomeMy WebLinkAbout1982-04-27 Committee of the Whole MinutesApril 27, 1982
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL OF
COUNCIL MEMBERS
REPORTS
Council Members
Finance Personnel
Committee
Public Safety
Garbage Pick -up
56th Ave. Bridge
OLD BUSINESS
Approval of
Minutes: 4- 13 -82.
Prop. Ord. amending
Ord. 1207 to change
days for City
Council Mtgs.
Prop. Ord. estab-
lishing regula-
ting license fees
for amusement cen-
ters, owners
devices.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL City Hall
Committee of the Whole Meeting Council Chambers
M I N U T E S
MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT COUNCILMAN VAN DUSEN BE
CHAIRMAN OF THE MEETING IN THE ABSENCE OF COUNCIL PRESIDENT BOHRER.
MOTION CARRIED.
EDGAR D. BAUCH, JOE H. DUFFIE, MABEL J. HARRIS, GEORGE D. HILL,
DORIS PHELPS, GARY L. VAN DUSEN.
Chairman Phelps reported the Finance and Personnel Committee will
meet on Thursday at 4:30 p.m.
Chairman Bauch reported the Public Safety Committee will meet at
4:45 p.m. on Wednesday.
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Councilman Duffie said citizens have been complaining because
garbage has not been picked up over the week end. The area around
the dumpster should be policed.
Mayor Todd said the City spent $2,500 cleaning up garbage. He followed
two cars from outside the City coming in to use the facility on 53rd.
Chairman Van Dusen said Council has talked about placement of the
dumpsters. It might be less expensive to give Tukwila citizens
free use of the dump for one or two weeks. Curb service pick -up for
citizens of the City is also a possibility.
Chief Lowery said restrictions are not posted at the dumpster site.
He suggested a sign be posted saying, "Tukwila Citizens Only."
Councilman Bauch reported trash is being dumped where the dumpsters
were located last year.
Chairman Van Dusen turned the matter over to the Public Works
Committee to discuss and make suggestions on how the trash clean -up
can be handled in a more efficient manner.
Councilman Duffie said Mrs. Baker has received a call from Mr. Eagan
that there will be a meeting in May regarding the bridge. It is
possible money will be available by October 1 for the bridge repair.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING HELD APRIL 13, 1982 BE APPROVED AS PUB-
LISHED. MOTION CARRIED.
MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE MAY 4, 1982 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. MOTION
CARRIED.
Chairman Van Dusen suggested a date be set for a public hearing on
the proposed ordinance. This matter was discussed fore or five years
ago and action was not taken.
City Attorney Hard said the purpose of the ordinance is to regulate
the use, location, development, and tax imposed for amusement centers,
owners and devices. There should be a public hearing. The ordinance
would control video games, pool games, "ride" games, etc.
MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT A PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD ON
JUNE 1, 1982.
Police Chief Lowery said this matter should be put in the Public
Safety Committee prior to the Public Hearing. There will be strong
opposition to the ordinance. The investments in the recreation
games are expensive.
*MOTION CARRIED.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
April 27, 1982
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OLD BUSINESS Contd.
Prop. Ord. Lic. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BE
fees for amuse- PUT IN THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE UNTIL TIME FOR THE PUBLIC
ment centers, owners HEARING. MOTION CARRIED, WITH DUFFIE AND BAUCH VOTING NO.
devices contd.
Council position
on Pro Parks bond
issue address
regional local
share allocations
as presently prop.
Rev. Sign Code
TMC Title 19.
Don Williams, Director of Parks and Recreation, said the Council
should solidify a position with regard to the Pro Parks bond issue
as a whole, then address the regional and local share allocations as
they are presently proposed. If either share should be adjusted,
the Council should develop a plan to influence the County Council to
make an adjustment(s). He said he could attend any meetings and
present facts and figures. If the bond issue passes as it is
written, Tukwila will receive $285,000. They should receive a minimum
of $735,500. An adjustment should be made because of the difference
in the population of Tukwila and the daytime work population. It
appears that this information has not been passed on.
MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL OPPOSE
THE PRO -PARKS PROPOSAL.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, TO AMEND THE MOTION STATING
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL IS AGAINST PRO -PARKS PROPOSAL IN ITS PRESENT
METHOD OF DISTRIBUTION OF THE LOCAL FUNDS. MOTION CARRIED.
*MOTION CARRIED, AS AMENDED.
Chairman Van Dusen suggested Don Williams and two or three Council
Members attend the public hearings and express the concern of Tukwila.
Don Williams said a letter from the Mayor and City Council President
stating Tukwila's stand would be useful.
Councilman Phelps suggested the Tukwila Chamber of Commerce furnish
input and attend the Public Hearings with the City Council Members.
Brad Collins, Director of Planning, gave background information on
the revised sign code, stating Draft No. 4 is being considered at
this meeting. The Planning Commission has reviewed the draft in
two or three meetings.They reviewed the work of the Sign Committee
and made some changes. It has now been sent to the City Council for
action. It is scheduled for a public hearing and adoption on May 18,
1982. The sign code can be adopted as revised; the time limit can be
extended on the latest amendment; or we can keep the existing code and
enforce it.
Mr. Collins said Section 19.28.030 (Prohibited Signs and Devices,
Nonconforming Signs) does not include a definition of "Nuisances."
There may be some questions regarding Section 19.32.140, .150, .160,
and .180. Another area for consideration is Section 19.12.060
(Criteria for Granting Variances). Section 19.22.020 (Content Res-
tricted), the internal information signs are permitted to promote
identification rather than advertising. Modest changes were made
in Section 19.28.010. Much of the legal research revolved around
regular billboards. Proposed changes provide for a ban on national
billboards, advertisements without violation of the rights of free
speech. Mr. Collins said he recommended the revision be approved
following the Public Hearing on May 18, 1982. He wanted to know
if there are issues the City Council wants worked on prior to the
Public Hearing.
Richard Kirsop, Chairman of the Planning Commission, said the code
has had enforcement problems and the City has been due for a change
in the sign code. He recommended the City Council accept the
revised edition. One issue is the billboard problem. The old
code prohibited it. The revision has only partially addressed the
billboard issue.
Ron Mikulski, member of the Sign Code Revision Technical Committee,
said internal information signs should be permitted so people
entering a building would know where to go. Billboards are an
excellent advertising vehicle and there are areas that are suitable
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
APRIL 27, 1982
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OLD BUSINESS Contd.
Rev. Sign Code for billboards, but they should be regulated. He suggested free
TMC Title 19 contd. standing signs be set back as far as they are high. They should be
limited to a height versus height of building it represents. If
there are electronic signs giving the time, date, and weather it
should be able to tell the name of the business offering the informa-
tion. Mr. Mikulski said in his building, the Solly Building, there
are internal signs on the first floor. They would like to put in
gold letters the offices on each floor.
Steve Hanson, Director of Community Relations, Ackerley Communications,
Inc., said his company is interested in outdoor advertising. He
did not agree with the proposed revision as it will impact the
community and the Council is legislating against the community.
Outdoor advertising provides benefits. He'defined outdoor advertising,
on- premise signs and the services they provide. He proposed a change
to Section 19.32.040. to specify: Billboards not exceed 300 square
feet in area; billboards be allowed only along the following avenues:
180th, Valley Highway, and Interurban north of the I -5 interchange;
all billboards shall be of single -post construction; shall be spaced
not less than feet apart on the same side of the street; billboards
shall be set back not less than 15 feet from the public right -of -way.
He distributed a brochure to members of the City Council illustrating
some of the signs made by his company and their use.
RECESS Chairman Van Dusen called for a five minute recess.
9:20 9:30 P.M.
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called back to order by
Chairman Van Dusen, with Council Members present as previously listed.
Brad Collins, Director of Planning, said the ideas presented by
Mr. Hanson have been heard by the Planning Commission and /or the
Staff and have been given consideration.
Mr. Collins referred to Page 21, Section 19.28.030 (Nonconforming
Signs) and said if a site were developed on Interurban it would be
his recommendation that the billboard be brought down. He said he did
not know the answer if there is a change in the lease arrangement on
a building.
Councilman Bauch asked if (A) of Section 19.28.030 could say: "If
the tenant changes, the sign comes down." City Attorney Hard said
that might be reasonable.
Chairman Van Dusen suggested addressing the rest of the issues and
leave billboards for the next discussion.
Councilman Phelps referred to Page 8, Paragraph (G),and said reference
is made to the 1971 edition. Reference should be to the current edition.
On Page 10, Section 19.12.110 what is the abatement procedure for that
Section? Mr. Collins said it is his understanding that it is subject
to abatement procedures. It is taken care of in Section 19.12.110(B)
which says the Planning Director may order the removal of any sign
that is not maintained in a safe and orderly condition. Section
19.28.040 can also be used.
referred to
Councilman Phelps Page 14, Paragraph (C), Section 19.20.020,
and asked if agreement does not exist, then what? Mr. Collins
said this would be considered as legally nonconforming.
Councilman Bauch said in the past it has been alleged that the signs
of the City Hall were illegal.
Mr. Collins said this is covered in Section 19.32.060, .080, .100.
Councilman Harris said she thought animated signs were not legal.
City Attorney Hard said that is covered on Page 20, Section 19.28.010(C).
MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT ITEM (P) BE ADDED TO SECTION
19.12.050 STATING: "SIGNS OF GOVERNMENTAL BUILDINGS." MOTION FAILED,
WITH DUFFIE, HILL, PHELPS VOTING NO; BAUCH, HARRIS, VAN DUSEN VOTING
YES.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING
April 27, 1982
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OLD BUSINESS Contd.
Rev. Sign Code Chairman Van Dusen referred to Page 16, Section 19.22.020, and
TMC Title 19 contd. stated the object of a permit is to see that the sign conforms.
The City should have to conform to the same requirements as the
public.
ADJOURNMENT
10:15 P.M.
COUNCILMAN DUFFIE LEFT THE MEETING AT 9:55 P.M.
MOVED BY HILL, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT THE REVISED SIGN CODE
BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING.
MOTION CARRIED.
MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE
WHOLE MEETIN `i 1.''. uOTION CARRIED.
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Chair` an Gary "Van Dusen
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NorMd Booher, Recording Secretary
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