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Home My WebLink About1982-07-06 Committee of the Whole MinutesJuly 6, 1982 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT DISCUSSION PROPOSED SIGN CODE City Attorney Opinion Clarification Issues Issue #10 19.04.020 Issue #11, 19.08 Issue #14 19.08.030 Issue #16, 19.08.040 Issue #20, 19.08.100 8:05 P.M. Issue #21, 19.08.140 Issue #22 19.08.180 19.32.120E 19.32.130E 19.32.140E 19.32.150 Issue #24 Issue #30 19.12.020 TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE M I N U T E S GEORGE D. HILL, GARY L. VAN DUSEN, LIONEL C. BOHRER, Council President, MABEL J. HARRIS, DORIS E. PHELPS, JOE H. DUFFIE, EDGAR D. BAUCH. Council President Bohrer called attention to an opinion from the City Attorney on a question raised at the last meeting. It is the Attorney's opinion that there is no problem, but issues can always be challenged. Issue #10, 19.04.020 Purposes MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY BAUCH, THAT 19.04.020 PURPOSES REMAIN AS SUBMITTED IN DRAFT FOUR. MOTION CARRIED. Issue #11, 19.08 Definitions MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT COUNCIL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE. MOTION CARRIED. Issue #14, 19.08.030 Area and Background Area MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY HILL, THAT COUNCIL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE AND KEEP THE LANGUAGE AS IT IS IN DRAFT FOUR. MOTION CARRIED. Issue #16, 19.08.040 Billboard Brad Collins explained that staff feels there may have been significant change when the word "display" was changed to "device." It was intended to be anything structural in nature. MOVED BY PHELPS, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT THE WORDS "ITS STRUCTURAL AND COMPONENT PARTS" AFTER THE WORD "DEVICE" BE ADDED.* "Billboard means sign or visual communication device, its structural and component parts..." *MOTION CARRIED WITH VAN DUSEN VOTING NO. Tukwila City Hall Council Chambers Issue #20, 19.08.100, Internal Information Sign MOVED BY DUFFIE, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE WORDING IN DRAFT FOUR REMAIN AS IT IS. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Hill was excused from the meeting. Issue #21, 19.08.140 Portable Sign Mr. Collins said staff has chosen not to regulate vehicle signs. Stationary signs on wheels are not permitted. He recommended adding "operating in the normal course of business" be added to the end of 19.08.140, Portable Sign. MOVED BY PHELPS, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT 19.08.140 PORTABLE SIGN BE AMENDED BY ADDING "OPERATING IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS" AT THE END. MOTION CARRIED WITH BOHRER VOTING NO. Issue #22, 19.08.180, 19.32.120E, 19.32.130E, 19.32.140E, 19.32. 150 Merchandise Signs Mr. Collins said staff recommends the language in Draft #4. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT COUNCIL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE. MOTION CARRIED. Issue #24 is the same as Issue #10. MOVED BY PHELPS, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT COUNCIL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE. MOTION CARRIED. Issue #30, 19.12.020 Application Procedure In the last sentence, change "its" to "his." 3 ?06 TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE July 6, 1982 Page 2 DISCUSSION PROPOSED SIGN CODE Issue #40, 19.24.010 Issue #42, 19.08.170 19.28.010F 19.32.020 Issue #45, 19.32.020 Issue #47, 19.08.090 19.22.040 19.32.070 19.08.090 Issue #48 19.32.080 B thru 19.32.130B Issue #54 19.32.140B Issue #40, 19.24.010 Area Restrictions -Time Limit Mr. Collins said that staff agrees with the comments from the May 11, 1982 meeting. The Real Estate Governmental Affairs Committee suggested that signs advertising open house and the direction to residents for sale shall be limited to one sign on the premise, three off premise signs; however, if a real estate company has more than one house open for inspection in a single subdivision, they shall be limited to four off premise open house signs. Such signs are permitted only during daylight hours and when the real estate company representative, seller or agent is in attendance at the property for sale. Mr. Collins said the important language is "the duration of those signs be limited to when a representative is in attendance at the property for sale." He recommended that this language be incor- porated into 19.24.010. MOVED BY PHELPS, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT COUNCIL ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND INCLUDE WORDING ON DURATION OF SIGNS. MOTION CARRIED. Issue #42, 19.08.170, 19.28.O10F, 19.32.020 Shared Directional Signs Mr. Collins said all of the concerns expressed at the public meeting have been addressed. MOVED BY PHELPS, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT COUNCIL PROCEED WITH THE REVIEW. MOTION CARRIED. Issue #45, 19.32.020 Shared Directional Signs Mr. Collins said this item was corrected while dealing with Issue #18. 3 07 MOVED BY PHELPS, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT COUNCIL PROCEED WITH THE REVIEW. MOTION CARRIED. Issue #47, 19.08.090, 19.22.040, 19.32.070 Freestanding Signs Mr. Collins noted that language changes have been made in 19.22.040. He recommended, in 19.32.070, that the text end after the word sign in the third line. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT THE SENTENCE END AFTER THE WORD SIGN IN THE THIRD LINE OF 19.32.070. MOTION CARRIED. 19.08.090 Height Council President Bohrer referred to 19.08.090; there are two items here. Mr. Collins explained that first is "the lowest point of the elevation of the ground between the top of the sign and a point five feet distant from said sign." Second is "the lowest point of elevation of the finished surface of the ground between the top of the sign and the property, if it is less than five feet distant from said sign." Council President Bohrer said the word "boundary" is needed with property Nos. "1" and "2" used to identify the separate items. MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT THE THREE CHANGES SUG- GESTED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT BOHRER BE MADE IN 19.08.090. MOTION CARRIED. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT THE SECTION NUMBER BE ADDED IN EACH SUBSECTION (B) CONTAINING THE WORDS "ALL SIGNS IN THIS SUBSECTION (Add number here) MUST BE APPROVED BY THE PLAN- NING COMMISSION IN 19.32.080B THROUGH 19.32.130B. MOTION CARRIED. Issue #54, 19.32.140B Office Buildings with Multiple Tenancies Mr. Collins explained that the issue was to add language that would permit tenants above ground floor, who have an exterior entry, signing to help people locate their operation. A new section 2 has been added to Draft #4 at the request of the TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE July 6, 1982 Page 3 DISCUSSION PROPOSED SIGN CODE Issue #54 19.32.140B cont. 3 )aT Council. If there is a single entry which all tenants use, there would not be ground floor signs permitted. If there are exclusive entries by any ground floor tenants, they would be allowed exterior signs. Ron Mikulski, from the Business Community, explained how they would like to put signs on their building located on Interurban Avenue. The building was constructed with exclusive outside entries for security purposes. He said that if signs are only allowed next to the entry it would be hard to identify their office. They have an outside entry and they occupy the entire second floor. Mr. Collins said the intention was that the sign would stay in scale with the ground floor exposed building face only. MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT COUNCIL ACCEPT THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE REVISION AS SUBMITTED.* Council President Bohrer clarified that it is to: (1) Substitute the word "ground" for "first" in line one, paragraph 1. (2) Substitute "the ground floor" for "a single" in paragraph 1, line 3 and after "on the" in paragraph 2, line 2. (3) Add new Section 2. *MOTION CARRIED WITH BOHRER VOTING NO. Misunderstandings MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY VAN DUSEN, THAT COUNCIL NOT CONSIDER THE MISUNDERSTANDINGS IN DETAIL.* Further Review ADJOURNMENT 9:45 P.M. Mr. Collins noted a typing error in subsection 19.32.060, 110 should be 130. *MOTION CARRIED. Council President Bohrer said that Council will consider bill- boards at the next meeting and then, review Draft #5 on July 26. Council will also reconsider Policy Issue #53, Free Standing Sign Setback /Height Reauirements at the next meeting. MOVED BY VAN DUSEN, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED. Council President Bohrer _,(2:it7Lt./2 'Cit erk