HomeMy WebLinkAboutTrans 2011-11-21 Item 3A - SCATBd - 10/18/11 Meeting SummarySOUTH COUNTY AREA TRANSPORTATION BOARD (SCATBd)
October 18, 2011
Members
Councilmember Wayne Snoey
Mayor Dave Hill
Councilmember Ralph Shape
Carolyn Robertson
MEETING SUMMARY
Councilmember Joan Hernandez
Chris Arkills
Councilmember Marcie Palmer
Councilmember Jeanne Burbidge
Grant Fredricks
Councilmember Les Thomas
Stacy Trussler
Geri Poor
Mayor Bart Taylor
Steve Roemer
Emiko Atherton
City of Covington (Chair)
City of Algona (Vice Chair)
City of SeaTac
City of Auburn (Alternate)
City of Tukwila
King County Executive (Alternate)
City of Renton
City of Federal Way
City of Des Moines (Alternate)
City of Kent
WSDOT
Port of Seattle (Alternate)
City of Milton
City of Burien (Alternate)
King County Council (Alternate)
I. Introduction, Comments, September 20 Meeting Summary
After introductions Chair Snoey recognized Karen Goroski from the Suburban Cities
Association and noted that this would be Karen's last meeting because she will be soon
retiring. He thanked her for doing a wonderful job with the Suburban Cities Association
and said that they would all miss her. Ms. Goroski thanked the Board, adding that she
had learned a lot from the Boardmembers and from staff.
The September 20 SCATBd meeting summary was adopted by the Board.
II. Connecting Washington Task Force Update Seattle City Councilman Tom
Rasmussen
Because of meeting conflicts Chair Snoey switched the agenda items and asked Seattle
Councilmember Tom Rasmussen to update the Board as a member of Governor
Gregoire's Connecting Washington Task Force. Chair Snoey said he was pleased to see
the Task Force talking about the preservation and maintenance issues and noted that there
needs to be a regional conversation and approach on this issue when the Task Force
reports back to the Legislature next year.
Mr. Rasmussen began the discussion by saying that he believed he brought a regional
perspective to the Task Force discussion because of this role as Chair of Seattle's
transportation committee and the various other transportation committees that he has
served on in the past. He said the challenge for the Task Force is how to provide
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mobility for all the people who live in our various communities. He acknowledged the
different needs of the people who lived in our rural communities and those who lived in
the urban areas and said we have to find a better way to fund transit and transportation
needs throughout the region. Mr. Rasmussen said the Governor asked the Task Force to
focus on jobs and the economy; he said the challenge to the Task Force is how to craft
transportation policies that will help improve our State's economy and get people to and
from work.
Mr. Rasmussen noted that the SR 167 and SR 509 corridors were listed as priority
corridors in Task Force issue papers. He also noted that there were lots of comments
from stakeholders in the State's ferry system. He said Seattle welcomes commuters from
Kitsap County, but noted the reality of driving on congested Seattle streets, and said there
needs to be strong advocacy for transit and street car solutions in Seattle. He also wanted
eastern Washington farmers to be able to get their crops to the ports and was concerned
about the condition of the "last mile" to the ports. Mr. Rasmussen said that if trucks are
continuously stuck in local commuter traffic, they will go elsewhere to move their
products out of the state
Mr. Rasmussen asked the Board if there were any messages that he could bring back to
the Task Force. Councilmember Les Thomas noted that the City of Kent built the 228
Street Corridor with plans to connect with the SR 509 extension. He said one message
Mr. Rasmussen could bring back is to complete missing link projects. A competed SR
509/228 Street corridor would bring a lot of freight traffic into the Kent Valley area and
would reduce freight traffic on I -5.
Chair Snoey also noted there was a missing link issue with the SR 167 corridor and the
need to complete the connection to the Port of Tacoma. Mayor Hill cautioned about
delivering more traffic to SR 167 while there still was a choke point between the Sumner
area and Auburn area on SR 167. Councilmember Burbidge also mentioned the Triangle
project at 1 -5 and SR 516, and the need to fund the remaining phases on the project. The
Triangle projects would bring benefits to commuter and freight traffic as well as safety
benefits. Councilmember Burbidge also talked about the need to complete the light rail to
South 272nd Street. Councilmember Ralph Shape noted that SeaTac supported light rail
into the South County area and its eventual link to the Tacoma light rail system.
Wayne Snoey noted that freight mobility is important to the region and said the public
needs to be educated on the role it plays in our region's economy. Mr. Rasmussen said
that one way to take pressure off from existing roads is to use transit and light rail.
Getting more commuter traffic off the roads will allow freer movement of freight traffic
on existing arterials. Chair Snoey discussed the need to improve the Stampede Pass line
and the need to crown the tunnel to allow double stacked trains. Carolyn Robertson
noted that Auburn's M Street overpass was fully funded and the project should be
completed in 2013. She said that his project will help pave the way for the region to use
the Stampede Pass line. Geri Poor from the Port of Seattle underscored the need to
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complete SR 509 corridor, and noted that funding preservation and maintenance projects
was critical for the region. Ms. Poor said that the Stampede Pass improvement project
might be a good candidate for a public /private partnership project arrangement.
III. Reports, Communications and Citizen Requests to Comment
Chair Snoey reported that he attended October's Regional Access Mobility Project
(RAMP) meeting where Paula Hammond updated the group on state projects and
reported on state needs and the revenue short falls the state is now experiencing. He said
that the SR 167 and Cross Base Highway projects were Pierce County's high priority
projects. He reported that these projects are at the forefront of the discussions now going
on at the state level. He said that Eastern Washington Legislators are aware and
understand the need for these projects.
Councilmember Burbidge briefed the Board on the Transportation Policy Board (TPB)
meeting that was held on October 13. She said that TPB was briefed on the progress on
the project prioritization process. She reported that the PSRC will go ahead on the project
selection process for possible 2012 Federal grant funds, and a task force will be formed to
discuss the project selection criteria. Councilmember Shape announced the ribbon
cutting of a new electric charging station in front of the SeaTac City Hall.
Councilmember Palmer said that Renton is also getting charging stations in front of their
city hall, and reported on the opening of a new parking garage in downtown and at the
Landing. Councilmember Hernandez reported that the City of Tukwila's urban access
center is now open for business and congratulated Tukwila Public Works director Bob
Giberson for job well down.
IV. Sound Transit Update
Brian Stout, from Sound Transit (ST), began the briefing with an update of Sound
Transit's revenue forecasts. Mr. Stout explained the differences between the existing
revenue forecasts and the forecast that was done prior to the ST 2 vote in 2008. He said
that in ST's earlier forecast it anticipated a slowdown in the economy but not the
recession that occurred in 2009. There was a 15% drop in sales tax forecasts between the
2008 forecast and the 2011 forecast. Mr. Stout said that about 90% of ST's revenues
come from sales tax. The 2008 forecast estimated that it would collect about $15.7
billion in sales taxes between 2009 through 2013; current ST forecast now calls for about
$11.7 billion to be collected in same time period. The South King County subarea is
down about $894 million, or 32% less than what was originally forecasted.
Mr. Stout also said that compared to actual sales tax revenues received to date in 2011,
ST is slightly ahead of last year's receipts. Revenue is up about 2.5% over last year.
Chair Snoey said that he did not see the 34% drop in sales tax revenues based on city
revenue reports. Mr. Stout said the 34% difference was a comparison between forecasts
not actual numbers. He said that they were comfortable with their 2011 forecast, they are
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currently off by 0.7% of their forecast. ST has determined that even if the forecast were
off by 5% they could still be able to complete light rail down to Kent/Des Moines Road
area.
Rachel Smith gave a brief update on the Tukwila Sounder Station. She said that ST was
currently in the process of building a permanent station at the current temporary Tukwila
Station location in Long Acres. The design of the station will be completed in 2012 and
construction is planned to start in August- September of 2012 and will be completed in
December 2013. Ms. Smith noted that there were design changes to the parking and
platform area to accommodate Strander Boulevard.
Chair Snoey asked Tom Gut to give a brief update on the SR 509 technical advisory
meeting that was held on October 5 Mr. Gut reported that WSDOT was looking a three
tolling alternatives and what can be constructed in the initial phases of the project.
WSDOT is currently looking at the traffic and tolling numbers of the three alternatives.
Action: Mr. Snoey asked for a motion from the Board to approve a support
letter for Sound Transit's TIGER III application to extend light rail to S.
200th Street in the City of SeaTac. The motion was made, seconded and
approved to send a SCATBd letter of support for ST's TIGER III grant
application.
II. King County's Strategic Plan for Roads Services (SPRS) Briefing
Doug Hodson, King County Road Services Division, briefed the Board on King County
Road Services Strategic Plan. He said the main theme of the strategic plan is to focus on
a smaller set of priorities because of the Division's declining revenues. Mr. Hodson
noted that while the unincorporated area was getting smaller, traffic from cities still
played a big role in the County's transportation system. He said that 65% of the
Division's revenues come from property taxes and 12% come from gas tax, both of
which have been declining in recent years. Reimbursable fees also provide some
funding, and includes maintenance work that the County does for cities. The top three
priorities for the Division are meeting its regulatory needs, meeting its core safety needs,
and maintaining the existing road network. Addressing mobility needs and capacity
needs are lower priorities
Mr. Hodson said the County does not have enough revenues to fulfill its top three
priorities. He said that the County needed $170 $180 million annually, to maximize the
life cycle of its existing transportation system. The County's Strategic Plan calls for
about $120 $130 million annually which would allow a moderate decline in the
County's transportation assets. Mr. Hodson, however, said the County currently has a
$20 to $30 million shortfall -it has a little over half of what it needs to maintain the
current condition is transportation assets.
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This shortfall has caused King County to propose a tiered service level approach on how
it will maintain its assets and to make the most of its limited revenues. The County is
proposing to designate all of the County's roadway into one of five tiers:
Tier 1 Most vital roads in the network will receive the highest level of storm
response, including the first roads to receive snow removal. Users of Tier 1 roads
should expect good road and bridge condition and well maintained drainage.
These roads will receive the highest level of maintenance and preservation
Tier 2 Heavily traveled roads will receive a lower level of storm and snow
response. Will receive maintenance to keep them in good condition. In general,
preservation efforts will be more reactive and prioritized based on level of risk
and availability of funding.
Tier 3 Highly used local roads will receive little to no storm and snow response,
especially during significant storms. Maintenance and preservation will focus on
slowing deterioration, but users should expect to see wear and tear to roadways,
possible load limits, lower posted speed limits, and long -term partial closures.
Tier 4 Local roads with a single access point will receive virtually no storm and
snow response. Maintenance will be limited to activities that preserve access.
Users may expect to see a number of one -lane roads with some downgraded to a
gravel surface, depending on the level of deterioration and availability of funding.
Tier 5 Local roads that have alternative routes available for travel in case of
road closures will receive virtually no storm and snow response. Maintenance will
be limited and based on factors such as life safety and risk, resulting in a growing
number of deteriorating roads. Users can expect to see some closures, which may
result in longer detours and difficulty accessing property. These roads may also be
downgraded to a gravel surface, restricted to one lane, and have load limits and
lower speed limits.
Mr. Hodson said that this approach is now before the King County Council for
consideration and that they are currently meeting with stakeholders to explain this asset
management proposal. Mr. Hodson said that they are also taking the opportunity to work
with the Governor's Connecting Washington Task Force and their outreach with cities to
talk about possible new revenue sources that would make up some of the revenue
shortfalls. Mr. Arkills pointed out that despite the recent annexations of unincorporated
areas into cities; King County still has to pay for the debt service on the roads it built in
the past. He mentioned the South Park Bridge as an example and noted that even if
Seattle annexes the bridge, King County will still have to pay off the bonds. Chair Snoey
asked Ms. Atherton about what the Council thought about this proposal. Ms. Atherton
said that Council staff is currently reviewing the proposal, and it is a high priority topic at
the Council. Chair Snoey ask Mr. Hodson how the County will address those arterials
that straddle city /county line. Mr. Hodson said that this is part of the discussions that
they are having with the public work directors of those cities.
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Chair Snoey reminded the Board that Pat McCarthy, Pierce County Executive, was going
to attend the next meeting, and that he was looking for volunteers for a nominating
Committee for next year's Chair and Vice Chair.
Other Attendees:
Cathy Mooney, City of Kent
Jim Seitz, City of Renton
Doug Hodson, King County
Dennis Dowdy, City of Auburn
Brian Stout, Sound Transit
Rick Perez, City of Federal Way
Tom Rasmussen, City of Seattle
Councilmember
Bob Giberson, City of Tukwila
Rachel Smith, Sound Transit
Paul Takamine, King County DOT
Monica Whitman, SCA
Karen Goroski, SCA
Cathal Ridge, Sound Transit
Doug Levy
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