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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-06-11 Committee of the Whole MinutesJune 11, 1984 7:00 P.M. CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL OF COUNCIL MEMBERS OFFICIALS IN ATTENDANCE REPORTS Mayor Staff OLD BUSINESS Approval of Minutes: May 29, 1984 Urban Design Study, Phase I. TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING Council Chambers M I N U T E S Li City Hall Council President Phelps led the audience and City Council Members in the Pledge of Allegiance and called the Committee of the Whole Meeting to order. L. C. BOHRER, MABEL J. HARRIS, DORIS E. PHELPS (COUNCIL PRESIDENT), EDGAR D. BAUCH, CHARLES E. SIMPSON. Maxine Anderson (City Clerk), Rick Beeler (Associate Planner), Brad Collins (Director of Planning), Hubert Crawley (Fire Chief), Dennis Hidell (Council Analyst), Pat Lowery (Crime Prevention Officer), Larry Martin (City Attorney), Don Morrison (City Administrator), Byron Sneva (Director of Public Works). Don Morrison, City Administrator, reported candidates for the Police Chief position are being interviewed. Selection will be made after the interviewing process. Don Morrison, City Administrator, reported the City is hiring youth to work for the summer through the King County Youth Hiring Program. Byron Sneva, Director of Public Works, reported it will be six months before the bids are advertised on the Foster Bridge. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY SIMPSON, THAT THE MINUTES OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING HELD MAY 29, 1984 BE APPROVED AS PUBLISHED. MOTION CARRIED. Foster Golf Links Councilman Bauch recommended that the concessionaire costs for Concessionaire Contract.building improvements and equipment in the amount of $10,089 be paid by the City. MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THIS ITEM BE ON THE AGENDA OF A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. Rick Beeler, Associate Planner, presented Dennis Haskell, TRA, consultant on the Urban Design Study. Mr. Haskell reviewed the working papers. Councilman Bohrer stated Metro has outlined tasks they would like the City to accomplish and the City has some things they would like Metro to perform. Brad Collins, Director of Planning, cited the things that Metro has said they would do. Councilman Bohrer stated if Metro can find a better place than Tukwila for a transit terminal they should do so. Councilman Harris agreed with Councilman Bohrer. Councilman Bauch said the City Council has considered the direction they want the City to go when the Comprehensive Plan and zoning were developed. Metro is a developer. If they think they are not going to make it here then they should go elsewhere. If the transit center goes elsewhere the City will still get the services from Metro. Councilman Bohrer said it points out in the Metro viewpoint that the Comprehensive Plan and the zoning map consciously do not define a potential center and market area. That has been the process that the City of Tukwila has allowed the flexibility and freedom for it to grow and it is one that was debated by the Council quite a bit and extensively at the time of adoption of the zoning map. The philosophy at that time was reaffirmed. It is a fairly well established element of the public policy here and he has not heard any of the City officials seriously clamoring for a detailed review of that element of policy. It is one which does not seem to be compatible with Metro's philosophy, however, he pointed out that the densities in Tukwila now are probably higher than most any place in Renton they could choose to site it or Burien or Auburn or Federal Way or wherever and we are probably going to get denser more rapidly than any of those places. By TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES June 11, 1984 Page 2 OLD BUSINESS Contd. Urban Design Study, the same token we have more emloyees and are apt to have more Phase I, contd. riders here than those other areas. Councilman Bohrer continued that Metro wants some assurances and Ms. Harris has asked for some assurances of another sort. We have not been given any. He thought they are asking something of unproved merit to the City and the City would like some assurances before we get into serious consideration of it that their claims of merit are well founded. So far the foundations have not even been presented much less indicated to be of great merit. Councilman Bohrer said he agreed with one statement under section Implications and Issues that the siting of the Center in Tukwila means more ridership and more people in the City in some fashion. The City and Metro look at the same issues and the same benefits from opposite sides of the coin. They want riders and we say we are trying to stimulate growth and employment and that will provide riders the only thing we are trying to do is make the entire area grow. We consider the whole thing as a unit and not simply the area around Southcenter. Councilman Bohrer said in the section Multi- Center Dispersed one of the comments is that if the transit center is centrally located for ease of vehicular access and egress there will be reduced operating costs for Metro. He said he was not convinced that the site located at Southcenter would serve that function of reducing operating costs. In some respects the City has had proven to them that some of the things the City would like to do which would reduce Metro operating costs they have expressed very little interest in. One of them was the connector from South 180th and Southcenter Parkway up to the freeway intersection of 188th. They simply are not interested in that they view it as more improving access to the City for automobiles and hence being opposed to the interest of transit. We view it as improving access to the City for all and in some respects it probably will decrease the congestion on the City streets. However, the City of Tukwila is not large and you can probably drive from one end of it to the other in five or ten minutes at the most even in the worst times of traffic. It is getting to Tukwila from Bellevue or wherever that is going to take time and will increasingly take time. Councilman Bohrer noted there are several comments about town centers and symbolic town centers and actions the City might take to develop and implement a town center a major public park, whatever. He said he was not certain that he sees the necessity of Tukwila trying to do something like that to serve as a focal point for downtown Tukwila. One of the earlier proposals for the Cartwell site referred to it as the Tukwila City Center. He said he personally thought that was most inappropriate for a private developer to think that he was going to institute a development that was going to become the Tukwila City Center. He said he was not sure the power the City has over the name of developments but Renton thought that Andy's Tukwila Station which is in Renton was an imprope name and in this regard this one borders on being improper to him. He said the major issue here is whether the relative merits of a dispersed but larger center versus a smaller but concentrated one and what the City should do to try to implement a smaller concentra- ted center versus a larger dispersed one. He thought some of the remarks and some of the other comments are "Okay, so we go ahead and say Southcenter we are going to make you the most dense thing in South King County. We are going to restrict your parking, we are going to let you build structured parking, we are going to do all of that for you. What we do is make it very expensive for Southcenter to develop and consequently all of the development goes elsewhere. They are going to be more competitive in that market. That sort of thing is some of the difficulty we see. There are areas in Tukwila which could readily be developed at much lower costs than trying to redevelop Southcenter. Indeed, the people at Southcenter are very shrewd business people and have maxi- mum plans for where they are going in the future but if we make their development too expensive for them then I think we are hazard- ing that initial development. I think the philosophy we are TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES June 11, 1984 Page 3 OLD BUSINESS Contd. Urban Design Study, Phase I, contd. NEW BUSINESS Unclassified Use Permit for Seattle Rendering Works. RECESS 8:50 9:00 P.M. Prop. Ord. vacating certain property dedi cated for street purposes, easterly 240' of 12' alley r -o -w ext. of S. 143rd P1. bordering on Lots 25 30, *MOTION CARRIED. Hillman's Garden Tracts. taking is probably well tailored for our time and development history. Another ten years downstream when presumably the current vacant land will largely have been developed there may be a different approach to things. That is difficult to see that far in the future. Councilman Harris said in Seattle at one time Yesler Way was the City center and as we all know that is not quite true any more. Who knows she said she had seen plans, at least dreams, of Segale developing their property in such a way as to where it could be Tukwila City Center. She has heard rumors that when the Koll warehouses are amortized and the money has been gotten back from the original that they could be developed in a much more dense way for different uses. We really don't know where the biggie will be where the density will finally end up. We are just guessing. We would not know where the developer's whim would be at the time when the building would occur. Our zoning ordinance was in place when the forecast was made as to what our future growth would be and our density would be. We really do not know where the actual center density will be. We even built in the use of the residential area in all of our plans. Councilman Simpson said the Community Affairs Committee will review this at the next Community Affairs Committee. y) ),b Councilman Bohrer asked how the Council can get a meeting planned to let Metro know we think there are some tasks we think they should be doing? Council President Phelps said the City will have input to offer at the meeting on June 26. MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY SIMPSON, THAT ITEM (E) OF THE AGENDA BE CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME. MOTION CARRIED. Rick Beeler, Associate Planner, stated the Planning Commission has recommended approval of Unclassified Use Permit 84- 17 -UUP to Seattle Rendering Works. Councilman Bauch asked Mr. Benefiel, Seattle Rendering Works, what would be tested on the premises. Mr. Wes Benefiel, 5795 South 130th Place, stated it would be chemical tests on fatty acids and profile fats tests. MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY SIMPSON, THAT A RESOLUTION BE PREPARED AND IT BE ON THE AGENDA OF A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY SIMPSON, THAT THE COUNCIL RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED. The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called back to order by Council President Phelps, with Council Members present as previously listed. MOVED BY SIMPSON, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BE ON THE AGENDA OF A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE PROVISION FOR PAYMENT OF THE PROPERTY. Councilman Bohrer said he would like to see a legal description and site map plus location of the property at the next meeting. Prop. Res. authorizing MOVED BY SIMPSON, SECONDED BY BAUCH, THAT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION Mayor to sign contract BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. w /Domestic Abuse Women's Network (DAWN). TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES June 11, 1984 Page 4 NEW BUSINESS Contd. Claim for Damages: Charles E. Simpson Claim for Damages: John J. Mah. Setting priorities for 1985 Budget as required by Res. 906 re budget process. MISCELLANEOUS Council Staff Positions. ADJOURNMENT 9:55 p.m. MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE CLAIM FOR DAMAGES (CHARLES E. SIMPSON) BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OF THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. Larry Martin, City Attorney, said damage to Mr. Mah's window could be denied by the City and Mr. Mah could be instructed to collect from the contractor or the City could pay the claim and then the City collect from the contractor. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY BAUCH, THAT THIS CLAIM FOR DAMAGES BE REFERRED TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. Revision of 6 -yr. MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY SIMPSON, THAT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE Transportation Improve- SIX YEAR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BE HELD ON JUNE 18, ment Program. 1984. MOTION CARRIED. MOVED BY BAUCH, SECONDED BY BOHRER, THAT THE PRIORITIES FOR 1985 BUDGET BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Bauch reported that the part -time Council Secretary /Clerk be at Grade 12 and the Council Analyst at Grade 7. MOVED BY SIMPSON, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED. Council President Doris E. \elps N Booher, Recording Secretary