HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985-04-08 Committee of the Whole MinutesApril 8, 1985
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER AND
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL OF COUNCIL
MEMBERS
OFFICIALS IN
ATTENDANCE
SPECIAL PRESENTATION
PUBLIC MEETINGS
Minkler Blvd. Project
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL City Hall
CG:MMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING Council Chambers
M I N U T E S
Council President Bauch called the Committee of the Whole Meeting
to order end led the aur'ience and the City Council n the Pledge
of Allegiance.
L. C. (BUD) BOHRER, DORIS F. PHELPS, JOE H. DUFFIE, EDGAR D. BAUCH
(COUNCIL PRESIDENT) CHARLES E. SI" PSGN
MAYOR GARY L. VAN DUSEN, h:AUNE ANDERSC.N (CITY CLERK), BRAD
COLLINS (PLANNING DIRECTOR), HUBERT CRAWLEY (FIRE CHIEF),
ROSS EARNST (CITY ENGINEER), PHIL FRASER (SENIOR ENGINEER), JIM
HANEY (CITY ATTORNEY), LUCY LAUTERBACH (LEGISLATIVE COORDINATOR),
DON MORRISON (CITY ADMINISTRATOR), BYRON SNEVA (PUBLIC WORKS
DIRECTOR).
Linda Smith, Corps of Engineers, presented slides on the
feasibility study to add additional storage to the Howard Hanson
Dam.
COUNCIL MEMBERS HARRIS AND MORGAN ARRIVED AT THE MEETING AT
7:04 P.M.
Ms. Smith answered questions that were asked by the Council
Members on the preliminary construction costs and capabilities.
MOVED BY MORGAN, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT ITEM 6 OF THE AGENDA
(PUBLIC MEETINGS) BE CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME. MOTION CARRIED.
Al Grieve, Alpha Engineers, reported on the design for the
Minkler Boulevard Project, using maps and drawings. He stated
there are four alternatives: 1) Four 12' lanes with curbs,
gutters, sidewalks and landscaping on both sides. Disadvantages:
railroad would have to be relocated and Penney's Warehouse would
have to be redone. 2) Four 11' lanes, no curbs, gutters,
sidewalks, or landscaping. Right -of -way would be less. No
railroad relocation. Cost $1.4 million. Disadvantages:
substandard roads. 3) Three through lanes with curbs, gutters,
sidewalks both sides. No railroad relocation, planting strip
both sides. Cost $1.4 million. 4) This is recommended alternative,
It accomplishes all of the goals for the project. Standard street,
four 12' lanes, curbs, gutters, sidewalks, landscaping both sides.
Disadvantages: railroad would have to be relocated, shared
access to railroad, more expensive, but increased benefits.
Requires maximum code variances.
Mr. Grieve explained the schedule, stating after alternative is
chosen they will proceed with rights -of -way plans.
Council President Bauch declared Public Meeting open at 8:00 P.M.
Byron Sneva, Public Works Director, stated the letter he received
from J. C. Penney Company dated April 2, 1985 sets forth their
review of alternatives. Alternative 1 would necessitate
relaying interior of the facility to accommodate relocated
railroad service. It would eliminate approximately 20' of parking
area on west side of building.
Alternatives 2 and 3 would not impact the operation of their
facility and would require only approximately 10' of existing
parking area. Alternative 4 would impact their operation as they
would be sharing the railroad tracks with Levitz Furniture. It
would require approximately 20' of the parking area.
They favor Alternatives 2 or 3 as they do not impact the existing
operation and require least amount of parking area and have the
lowest total cost. They stated they are in favor of this much
needed roadway project.
Bob Fehnel, representing the Benaroya Company, said they are
concerned about the roadway and number of lanes. They support
extension of Minkler Boulevard, stating it is hard to visualize
a four -lane street. He stated they support Alternative 3.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
April 8, 1985
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PUBLIC MEETINGS Contd.
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Minkler Blvd. Proj. Tom Curda, representing Southcenter Corporation, said they are
contd. in favor of the Minkler Boulevard Project.
There being no further comments from the audience, Council
Presiden Bauch declared the Public Meeting closed at 8:05 p.m.
South 188th Connector Council President Bauch opened the Public Meeting on the South
Project. 188th Connector Project at 8 :06 p.m.
Terry Gibson, Centrac, consultant on project, gave a report on the
next design phase. He stated the advantages of the South 188th
Connector would be improved freeway access of the CID (commercial/
industrial district), remove congestion, provide alternate
east -west route. The cost would be $4.5 to $5.5 million.
Dave Schneider, 4604 South 176th, presented copy of letter
from McMicken Heights Neighbors dated March 23, 1985 to Randy
Revelle, County Executive, stating they are opposed to any plans
to make South 176th Street into a four -lane highway from
Military Road to Highway 99. They stated they are in support
of a new two -lane street with sidewalks, curbs and gutters.
There is a grade school on South 176th with about 50 children
walking to and from school daily. He stated neighborhood is
zoned for single family having within one mile main north -south
and east -west freeways, highways and roadways; the taxpayers
should not put money into a four -lane highway that is not
needed or wanted.
Finley Young, representing Ray Flink, one of the property owners
at corner of 180th, stated his client had opportunity to review
the draft report and noted there are three goals: 1) Improve
access to business district; 2) deal with congestion in area;
3) improve the cross valley traffic. Alternatives D and E
would probably improve the congestion at choke points but there
is an overall congestion problem and D and E would aggravate
that overall problem by bringing more traffic onto existing
arterials and encourage cross valley traffic to mingle with
shoppers in Southcenter area. As I -405 gets worse the
pressure on roads around Southcenter will increase. Ride sharing
should be encouraged but pressure could be alleviated by taking
pressure further to south and let Kent handle the problem
with a 200th Street connector. Putting A and B ahead would
create more southern arterials and avoid a duplication of effort.
The study is not farsighted.
Terry Anderson, Chamber of Commerce, read a letter dated
April 8, 1985 addressed to the City. The letter stated in part
that the Chamber's Board of Directorsstrongly oppose the
location of any South 188th /I -5 Connector that would connect
at the South 180th /SW 43rd corridor. The area of South 180th
is presently heavily congested and in need of improvements to
accommodate current levels of local and cross valley traffic.
To feed more traffic into this area would add to an existing
problem. It is felt that any connector at South 180th would
have the effect of dividing the Tukwila commercial /industrial
district. This could actually have a negative effect on the
ability to access the southern -most portion of the CID if a major
cross valley route were to be made of South 180th.
Councilman Bohrer asked for elaboration on the statement that
a South 180th Connector would have effect of dividing the
Tukwila CID.
Ms. Anderson said the Chamber feels that the 180th is dissecting
the middle of Tukwila. Studies show this area is going to grow
and it will go south, it is not going very far north. It will
be cutting the CID in half with a main access road across the
valley.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
April 8, 1985
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PUBLIC MEETINGS Contd.
South 188th Connector
Project contd.
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Councilman Bohrer said there is very little of the City south of
180th. It is still part of the City but is small area compared
to rest of CID. He said he disputed that this would bisect the
City.
Ms. Anderson said there is County land to the south that could
at some time ask for annexation with the City and it would be cut
off.
Councilman Bohrer said the City is close to having contiguous
boundaries to City of Kent on south side and City's planning area
includes very little of the land south of the current City limits
in that area.
Ms. Anderson said she has stated the way the Chamber of Commerce
feels about it. She said she was also president of Angle Lake
Shore Club and one of the comments made was that there was a
survey made in Tukwila; they made no survey on 188th as to the
people's desires, including the Highline School District.
Council Person Morgan asked if the Transportation Committee could
have a list of members of Chamber Transportation Committee so
they can be notified when discussion is taking place so Council
can know the scope of their locations within the City and the
diversities of the businesses they represent and numbers of people
involved. The document read by Ms. Anderson represents a fairly
large organization and it would be helpful to know the individuals
in the decision making process.
Council President Bauch said the Tukwila /Sea -Tac Chamber of
Commerce is a region or area but on the second page of their letter
they advocate the City spend money outside the City limits on
the study.
Ms. Anderson said the Chamber is advocating that the City spend
the money in a coordinated effort with areas outside the City.
Council President Bauch said the study was started from regional
money and the input was regional and not City.
Council Person Morgan said the Chamber would then like to act as
a non governmental body to facilitate meetings between various
governmental units.
Gene Tonnemake, 19623 Military Road South, said he seconded the
opinions of the Tukwila /Sea -Tac Chamber of Commerce to an extent.
One difference South 200th is not far enough south. He said
the 188th Street traffic level is probably at E level now and the
airport plans for 188th put that area in a traffic vise that
there may be four lanes of traffic going each way on that four
lane highway. It is probably the busiest east -west nonfreeway
street in the area. To put all of that traffic that would be
generated from a Tukwila exit there without further relief
will put unbelievable stress on that street. Maybe an east
west corridor is needed across the valley but putting it on 188th
is counter productive. One main concern in the area of 188th
and 200th is safety. Getting safety vehicles through that
area at certain times of the day is getting to be problematical
and dangerous.
Robert W. Schoebachler, 12905 NE 25th Place, Bellevue, representing
his parents and himself as property owners in the City, said they
own numerous parcels east and west of 57th South which would be
transversed and inversely impacted by the recommended South 188th
Street Connector. Along with other property owners in Tukwila
they believe that the proposed Sputh 188th Connector is not in
the best interests of the City. They recommended and support
the regional cross valley corridor at South 200th, 196th South
and 192nd. The reasons are: 1) The South 188th Connector creates
new traffic and congestion problems. A study has shown that levels
of service for South 180th and South 188th will not be improved.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
April 8, 1985
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PUBLIC MEETINGS Contd.
South 188th Connector
Project contd.
It will split in half the present and future Tukwila CID area.
2) The study understates the true cost of the South 188th
Connector. The improvements have not been full identified.
3) The study disregards the previous recommendation of the
Tukwila Transportation Advisory Committee. This committee
rejected the South 188th Connector and recommended that the City
support a cross valley connector at South 200th Street. 4)
The South 188th Connector will cause serious physical impacts to
the Schoenbachlers' property and to other properties west of
57th Avenue South. The project will sever the parcels affected
rendering large portions of them useless. The South 188th
Connector will also interfere with access to and from properties
in the area.
Gale Hokum, attorney in law firm representing the Roy Martins,
property owners in the area, said the Martins are opposed to
Alternative D and E specifically,and especially E as it will
sever the Martin's property. The impacts include severance
and encrouchment on their property, noise problems, drainage
problems. Alternative E may not remove congestion to Southcenter
CID but may add congestion. Alternative D is about same cost
as Alternative E and the Martins prefer D if it is a choice
between the two.
Bob Fehnel, representing the Benaroya Company, said they were
part of the traffic study committee in 1981 and 1982. At that
time they supported the 200th cross valley road because they felt
it was important to segregate the cross valley traffic from the
CID traffic. A new point that perhaps has not been addressed
is that the Benaroya- Trammel interest is retail. They
still support the 200th cross valley as the first step to this
traffic ddlemna. They recognize it is out of the jurisdiction
of Tukwila. If a route must happen at 188th the Benaroya
Trammel Crow Companies supprt Route E as opposed to any of the
other alternatives. A letter was written to Mr. Sneva in October
1984. It will be a traffic nightmare unless these improvements
to other intersections are made prior to the completion of the
South 188th Street project.
Kevin Bannon, 4637 South 168th Street, representing the Sea -Tac
Community Council, said people on top of the hill are very
concerned about impacts to their neighborhoods if Alternative E
is adopted. South 188th and 200th are very heavily used already
and are at the overload point. There are probably alternatives
for the City to consider further to the South. There appears
to be lack of coordination between jurisdictions and government
authorities in transportation plans for South King County in
general. There is great need to work together.
Mario Segale, representing the Segale family, said they wanted
to go on record as against the 188th Street Connector. They
do not want to split the City or put it into quarters. They
would like more consideration given to the 200th Street situation,
the cross corridor. The project needs more consideration.
Chip Graver, speaking for Vince CoM ucio, owner of some property
along South 200th, said they do not oppose any of the routes
except they think that South 200th would alleviate a lot of the
problems. The property owners in that area do feel they are
part of Tukwila.
Byron Sneva, Director of Public Works, said the consultant
had pointed out the schedules, with construction in 1988. There
will be more hearings. The cost is 17% local funds and 83%
federal funds. The project files include information that
has been said and received in writing.
Councilman Bohrer said in looking at the results of the study it
does not appear that South 200th solves the problems. It may be
desirable to build South 200th first and start the cross valley
traffic that way but this study clearly shows that it does not
solve the traffic problems of access to the City that the 188th
Connector would provide. South 200th is not going to solve any
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING i1INUTES
April 8, 1985
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PUBLIC MEETINGS Contd.
South 188th Connector
Project contd.
Council President Bauch declared the Public Meeting closed at
9 :15 p.m.
Mr. Haney said a possible exception might be if the Council
gets a statement from the proponents that they will not bring
up an appearance of fairness question at a later date.
Council members stated they had received calls from the
proponents asking them to meet and discuss the merits of the
proposal prior to the Council meeting. All Council Members
stated they declined such a meeting and discussion.
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significant part of the congestion that currently occurs up
around Klickitat as it exits off the freeway. No one believes
this should be the only cross valley access. We are trying
to solve the City problem and concurrently with Kent trying to
solve some other problems and get some access elsewhere. We
are trying to break up our own City super- blocks, that was the
Minkler Project. There are super- blocks in the City of Kent
and City of Renton, most of them oriented north -south that are
forcing people to go north -south and branch off across the
limited cross valley access that we currently have. Getting
some additional cross valley access is going to alleviate traffic
along some of those other north -south routes including SR 181
and South 200th alone does not do that. It does not solve the
prime problem that the City saw in getting into this study
earlier, meaning the congestion at the north end of the northwest
corner of the CID. We are trying to solve traffic problems
on one of the other corners; namely, the northeast corner where
we have the Grady Way project. We are trying to solve that
problem where there is already a bottle neck much of the time
but we are concerned about the bottle neck that exists in the
northwest corner of the City. The comments and concerns are
appreciated but we have to be concerned about other problems
as well.
RECESS MOVED BY DUFFIE, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE
9 :15 9 :35 P.M. WHOLE MEETING RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED.
The Committee of the Whole Meeting was called back to order by
Council President Bauch, with Council Members present as
previously listed.
OLD BUSINESS MOVED BY MORGAN, SECONDED BY HARRIS, THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER
ITEM 7(D) OF THE AGENDA (PROGRESS ON SHORT PLAT AND ENVIRONMENTAL
REVIEW ON TUKWILA POND PROPERTY) AT THIS TIME. MOTION CARRIED.
Advise Council Progress City Attorney Haney advised the Council that the Planning
on Short Plat Envir. Department is currently processing a short plat application to
Rev. on Tukwila Pond divide the property into two lots. Lot 1, along Strander
Property. Boulevard, contains none of the pond but is proposed for
immediate development as a mixed use (retail and office) complex
of several buildings. Lot 2 encompasses the pond and rest of
the property. A concept for development on Lot 2 is not known
or proposed at this time. The applicant has requested an appearance
before Council to discuss possible mitigation measures in connection
with Resolution No. 736. The administrative processes of the
short plat and environmental review contain an appeal process
which could bring either the short plat or environmental decision
before the City Council. Since the Council in discussing the
application on file with the City could be creating an appearance
of fairness problem relative to any future appeals of
administrative decisions, Mr. Haney suggested the City Council
Members not consider discussing the application on file for this
reason, as a short plat application has already been filed and
the Council might have to act on an appeal.
John Derr, attorney for the developer, said they would like a
discussion. They do not have a concern about the appearance of
fairness.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
April 8, 1985
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OLD BUSINESS Contd.
Tukwila Pond Property
contd.
Approval of Minutes:
Mar. 25, 1985.
Minkler Blvd. Proj.,
Report, and
So. 188th St. Conn.
Report.
Prop. Ord. creating
Tukwila Economic Dev.
Corp.
NEW BUSINESS
Prop. Res. accepting
turnover of sanitary
sewer main by Gerald
Knudson.
MISCELLANEOUS
Summer Street Project
5/17
Council Members Phelps said the developer is not the only party
who might challenge the appearance of fairness, it could be
anyone in the audience.
MOVED BY DUFFIE, SECONDED BY SIMPSON, THAT THE COUNCIL DISCUSS
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE POND PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.
Council Member Phelps said she would like a candid discussion
between the Mayor, developer and staff and then have the matter
brought to the Council with suggestions for review.
Mike Castle, applicant, said they have been working on the project
for one and one -half years. They decided to file the short plat.
They would like a work session and get input of the Council.
MOVED BY MORGAN, SECONDED BY PHELPS, TO AMEND THE MOTION AND
PLACE RESOLUTION NO. 736 ON THE AGENDA OF THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS
COMMITTEE. MOTION CARRIED, WITH DUFFIE VOTING NO.
*MOTION MOOT.
MOVED BY DUFFIE, NO SECOND, THAT COUNCIL HEAR THE POND PROPOSAL
TONIGHT. MOTION FAILED, NO SECOND.
MOVED BY DUFFIE, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE
MINUTES OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING HELD MARCH 25,
1985 AS PUBLISHED. MOTION CARRIED, WITH BOHRER VOTING NO.
Councilman Bohrer said he had not received a copy of the Minutes
held March 25, 1985.
MOVED BY MORGAN, SECONDED BY PHELPS, THAT THE APPROPRIATE
DOCUMENTATION FOR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF RECEIPT OF REPORTS BE
DRAFTED FOR BOTH THE MINKLER BOULEVARD PROJECT AND THE SOUTH 188th
STREET CONNECTOR AND IT BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT REGULAR
COUNCIL MEETING. MOTION CARRIED.
MOVED BY SIMPSON, SECONDED BY MORGAN, THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
BE ON THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
MOVED BY PHELPS, SECONDED BY BOHRER, TO AMEND THE MOTION AND ON
PAGE 3, SECTION 6, TENTH LINE, READ: "THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT OR
HIS APPOINTEE SHALL ATTEND MEETINGS AND PERFORM THE DUTIES OF A
DIRECTOR WHENEVER ANY OF THE DIRECTORS FROM THE FINANCE AND
PERSONNEL COMMITTEE ARE UNAVAILABLE TO ATTEND OR PERFORM." MOTION
CARRIED.
*MOTION CARRIED, AS AMENDED.
MOVED BY MORGAN, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION
BE REFERRED TO THE UTILITIES COMMITTEE. MOTION CARRIED.
Prop. Res. approving MOVED BY MORGAN, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, TO REFER THE PROPOSED
amendments to Interlocal RESOLUTION TO THE FINANCE AND PERSONNEL COMMITTEE. MOTION FAILED.
Agreement creating
Puget Sound Cities
Interlocal Ins. Auth
MOVED BY PHELPS, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, THAT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION
BE ON THE AGENDA OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL. MOTION
CARRIED.
MOVED BY HARRIS, SECONDED BY DUFFIE, TO REFER THE SUMMER BANNERS
TO THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. MOTION CARRIED, WITH
MORGAN VOTING NO.
Council Person Morgan said she would like to see the money
that would be put into the banners go into a gateway for the City.
TUKWILA CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
April 8, 1985
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ADJOURNMENT
11:15 P.M.
MOVED BY DUFFIE, SECONDED BY MORGAN, THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE
WHOLE MEETING ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED.
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Edgar p. Bauch, Council President
Norms Booher, Recording Secretary
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